My 12 Weeks with SideSteel

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  • jrhanna84
    jrhanna84 Posts: 66 Member
    Nicely done sir!
  • Julieboolieaz
    Julieboolieaz Posts: 658 Member
    Wonderful! What amazing progress and dedication!, WTG!! Thanks for the inspiration!!
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Wow. Look at the results of all your hard work. Good job!

    I like the after picture of you spinning around. too. Looks like ballet. :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    Wow, incredible job! I want to become a pet project--sign me up! LOL
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    Keep up the good work.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Updated Graphs.
    Weight vs Calories:
    2014-09-11Bulk1cropped.jpg

    Rolling 7 day averages:
    2014-09-11Bulk1RollingAvgs.jpg

    The last month I dialed back my calories a bit because I was resting my shoulder (torn/strained labrum). I quit doing bench, row, ohp, and DL. Apparently shoulder damage is historical and I'll likely need surger but I'm back to a full MADCOW routine in the meantime and upped calories. Still feeling "beach lean" and my squat continues to progress.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Axis are small - 8lb in 3 1/2 - 4 months? Is that correct?
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    ...8lb in 4 months...
    That's right.
    Next month I'll revise the graph in an attempt for it to be more legible.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    ...8lb in 4 months...
    That's right.
    Next month I'll revise the graph in an attempt for it to be more legible.

    Nice going. After 4 weeks I kind of end up at 'crap' looks like I need to cut again as I have gained at least that.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    I definitely feel like my strength gains are slower due to fear of gaining too fast. Once beach season is over I'll push the weight gain to ~4lbs/month and plan to cut next March/April, hopefully at ~15% BF.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I definitely feel like my strength gains are slower due to fear of gaining too fast. Once beach season is over I'll push the weight gain to ~4lbs/month and plan to cut next March/April, hopefully at ~15% BF.

    Dude, I wouldn't change a damn thing if I were you honestly.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member

    Dude, I wouldn't change a damn thing if I were you honestly.
    Thanks. I've debated how to approach bulking this winter.
    I dream of doing a PL meet but with my shoulder bothering me that may remain a dream so I'm not stressing about getting my bench up. I'm comfortable with slow gains.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member

    Dude, I wouldn't change a damn thing if I were you honestly.
    Thanks. I've debated how to approach bulking this winter.
    I dream of doing a PL meet but with my shoulder bothering me that may remain a dream so I'm not stressing about getting my bench up. I'm comfortable with slow gains.

    I also messaged you on Skype to elaborate a bit but I'll just type it here too. I'm not convinced that adding more food on top of your current calorie surplus is going to significantly impact your lifts, and if it does I'm further not convinced that in the long term this is the right path if you intend to stay lean. Consider that, if you double your rate of gain, you're going to have to turn around and get back into a caloric deficit earlier.

    Spending more time in a moderate surplus where you're probably nearing maximal rate of gain anyways (note -- probably no way to know for certain but 2lbs/month is certainly reasonable) is probably going to better impact long term strength vs absolutely maxing intake/gain rate then going into a deficit and having to cut earlier.

    Can't say all the above with certainty but this is my current belief based on what's going on. Could simply be time for program modification.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Thanks again SS, couldn't have gotten here without you. I'll stick with the slow and steady bulk and definitely considering program modifications.
    *edited for typo
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    Dude, I wouldn't change a damn thing if I were you honestly.
    Thanks. I've debated how to approach bulking this winter.
    I dream of doing a PL meet but with my shoulder bothering me that may remain a dream so I'm not stressing about getting my bench up. I'm comfortable with slow gains.

    I also messaged you on Skype to elaborate a bit but I'll just type it here too. I'm not convinced that adding more food on top of your current calorie surplus is going to significantly impact your lifts, and if it does I'm further not convinced that in the long term this is the right path if you intend to stay lean. Consider that, if you double your rate of gain, you're going to have to turn around and get back into a caloric deficit earlier.

    Spending more time in a moderate surplus where you're probably nearing maximal rate of gain anyways (note -- probably no way to know for certain but 2lbs/month is certainly reasonable) is probably going to better impact long term strength vs absolutely maxing intake/gain rate then going into a deficit and having to cut earlier.

    Can't say all the above with certainty but this is my current belief based on what's going on. Could simply be time for program modification.

    I know its a bit moot based on your recent post, but just adding that I agree, both based on my experience and what I have discerned from others/read etc.

    At some point, the increases in lifts from more food (as opposed to a mild surplus) are basically coming from getting fatter, and not from the food itself. Generally, size gains will outpace strength gains (looking from a BW multiple perspective) at some point. As soon as you lean out, these will go - plus gaining affects your leverages and as such your form gets messed up and you need to tweak more.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Thanks Sara. "This" is all new to me. I really appreciate your input too. I never thought about how your/my form would change with weight gain and then loss, makes sense though.
    I'd love to gain another 10+ "lean" pounds by next spring and have a minimal cut before summer.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Thanks Sara. "This" is all new to me. I really appreciate your input too. I never thought about how your/my form would change with weight gain and then loss, makes sense though.
    I'd love to gain another 10+ "lean" pounds by next spring and have a minimal cut before summer.

    You'll probably get shredded fast your next time around. I have some thoughts on that, so lets chat over the winter sometime.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member

    You'll probably get shredded fast your next time around. I have some thoughts on that, so lets chat over the winter sometime.

    giddy
    :-D