Saturday.

Hooray seem to be over the low carb flu hump. Back to my normal perky self.

Which was probably helped by a much needed 90minute massage. Added the extra time this month to have him really work on my IT bands and upper back / neck. Ahhhhhh

Sunday.

Nice work John. Great workout, even better motivation ( tho sad it's so prevelant) I wonder if the stop rest and eat had an impact on your return leg. I know if I'm doing a long ride and stop, eat, let muscles cool down, I have a much much harder time after. ( multiply that times two if I drink a beer on the break)

Mark- dog walks do make such a great opportunity for just a bit more low impact movement.

Hoping to get some dirt miles in today on the mountain bike. Beautiful day in southeast Wisconsin.

Sounds like good therapy John, that must be rough to go through.

As for eating, I still eat a lot of crap even though I continue to lose weight. I'm still not sure if I want to switch to paleo type diet but I do want to add more natural food in. I need to work that for sure.

8pm EST on Sunday works for me. How about we plan for next Sunday the 14th at 8pm EST? I can't do tonight. I can set up the hangout and I will post the link on here. So just check for a new thread here at 8pm for whoever wants to join in. Sound good?

Well a week without ac led to eating a lot of crap.... and adding some pounds...

Ac is fixed, now I gotta work on my resolve....

Kevin. Yes. Heavy whipping cream. I use Organic Valley. Good WI company and pasture/primarily grassfed (not entirely in winter, it is Wisconsin). But in pinch I use any brand. I whip it for a couple seconds in a nutra bullet type thing. Really creamy and latte like. I use no sweetner. As an aside Kiefer talked about why he thinks this combo better than bulletproof on a podcast. Something about the milk fat go bikes which are destroyed making butter.

Also when traveling Starbucks has heavy cream. I don't bother with coconut oil on road. Ask for "about an inch of heavy cold cream"

Well a week without ac led to eating a lot of crap.... and adding some pounds...

Ac is fixed, now I gotta work on my resolve....

Good O Kevin

Sounds good then hopefully we can get a good group going. 8pm EST Sunday it is.

Did really well with eating yesterday but sucked Saturday, I ended up having two treat days. Like Mark was saying those treat days are easy to let bleed into the next day. I counted calories and keep track though so I'm working on lowering my intake for the week. I banked 400 calories yesterday and plan to do -600 for the next 4 days.

I don't know about the heavy cream in coffee. LOL I like mine black. I'm also still stuck on trying to stay low fat. I don't see where there is enough evidence in the medical community that supports the high fat diet. I'm sure I could be wrong and you guys may be right, so I couldn't really argue it, but for now I'm sticking with the American Heart Assc.

Monday.

Great day yesterday even if I never did get on my bike. I've been wanting to check out the hiking trails at a nearby state park. In addition to the hiking the park has one mountain biking loop. I brought the bike with the intention of checking out the bike path after hiking. I choose one of their blue/black routes doing a couple of the black sections but not all of them. Was a bit over 7 miles with an average of 100ft elevation gain per mile in typical up and down WI fashion. A few very steep areas. The idea of riding after was a bit ambitious. The hike wore me out. No doubt I could have ridden 5 miles on bike but as I don't know that trail decided not to push it. The times I've fallen hard on the mountain bike are usually when I'm pushing tired. Next time I'll bike first then hike.

Howie- I've never answered your question re why Paleo. For me it's all about health. Similar to Mark I had years and years of GI issues. Taking Prilosec for GERD twice a day PLUS perscription meds for colitis. On none of that now. Additionally for metabolic/ heart disease type markers. I've gone from pre-diabeties levels of blood sugar to am fasted blood sugar in mid to low 70s. Triglycerides in the 80s (was in the 190-200 prior) with HDL higher than triglycerides at 89. Those are the key indicators for potential heart disease.

So I'd disagree there's no evidence. Read "Eat the a Yolks" or "Big Fat Lie" or any of Mark Hymans work. The two books really go into how the AHA guidelines got to where they are today. And it's not due to science. John is also right that "Starts with Food" another great book on the ways to how we eat. However, I found the whole30 ( and even Dalls & Melissa the authors) too restrictive and dogmatic. I needed to baby step into it. I also needed to make a very large mental shift from trying to lose weight to trying to be and remain healthy and full of vitality for the rest of my life. That mindset makes it very easy to make good choices...and to have the occasional treats, non-clean eating.

This current thing with CarbNite is just a little n=1 experiment. I've made no effort to lose weight for nearly a year instead focusing on getting healthy - in food, sleep, stress and movement. July was my test month. No tracking, nearly half month on vacation. Lots of little indulgences...but generally true to my beliefs. And no weight gained, movement maintained. Now time to begin seeing if I can speed up things a bit...ESP as the folks I credit as responsible for this mindset of healthy first (Jason Seib & Sarah Fragoso) are now using CnS with their clients a bit.

Mentioned wrong book above. Meant "Big Fat Surprise"
By Nina Teicholz. But to save time, her editorial on CNN sums it up

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/06/opinion/teicholz-fear-of-dietary-fat-melting/index.html?c=&page=2

Bummer on the tire Kim though good example of Adjust, Adapt, Overcome.

Well another great day about to begin. Work Hard, Have Fun, but above all..... B Koo-EL!

Very small snowflakes falling this morning on my hike. We are supposed to get a lot more in the next couple of days, yee haw!! Then back into the 70's next week.. Boo!! I did another 42lb pack hike last night for 2 miles. I did not push it as much, and cut it a wee bit short.

Snow is one of the reasons I live in Georgia, (we don't get it here) Great job on the hike lad.

Wednesday.

Enjoyed listening to the podcast. Great job you guys!

Happy Wednesday Folks! Got 9 mo follow up appt with Urologist today from my cancer episode. Should be good to go.

Howie- I've never answered your question re why Paleo. For me it's all about health. Similar to Mark I had years and years of GI issues. Taking Prilosec for GERD twice a day PLUS perscription meds for colitis. On none of that now. Additionally for metabolic/ heart disease type markers. I've gone from pre-diabeties levels of blood sugar to am fasted blood sugar in mid to low 70s. Triglycerides in the 80s (was in the 190-200 prior) with HDL higher than triglycerides at 89. Those are the key indicators for potential heart disease.

So I'd disagree there's no evidence. Read "Eat the a Yolks" or "Big Fat Lie" or any of Mark Hymans work. The two books really go into how the AHA guidelines got to where they are today. And it's not due to science. John is also right that "Starts with Food" another great book on the ways to how we eat. However, I found the whole30 ( and even Dalls & Melissa the authors) too restrictive and dogmatic. I needed to baby step into it. I also needed to make a very large mental shift from trying to lose weight to trying to be and remain healthy and full of vitality for the rest of my life. That mindset makes it very easy to make good choices...and to have the occasional treats, non-clean eating.

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I will have to look into some of those books. I do struggle with believing just a few views vs. the masses but I am open minded and willing to look and learn. I do ignore some of the stuff we were taught like the whole egg yolk thing. I have been eating eggs for years with no problems. I am also not a Nazi when it comes to my fat intake. So I may be closer along your lines than I thought. All though I don't watch carbs. I mean I do track them but I am up around 200 most days.

For those that want to join that hangout, I will need your gmail address to send the link to once I get the hangout started. So email me at howie@thehman.com and just put Fat2Fit Hangout as the subject. I will set up a group email so I can send out the link.

Howie - not to beat a dead dog but you might find the book The Paleo Coach by Jason Seib interesting as well. He takes a more incremental approach than most. With a lot of science to back it up.