3 days off Keto... Not liking it.

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mrsfancyab
mrsfancyab Posts: 64 Member
A few days ago I was so frustrated with the side effects of being in ketosis that I decided I wasn't going to do it anymore. I've battled with my weight my whole life. I used to weigh 287, when I graduated high school I lost 100lbs. Decided I was going to go back to what worked then... But 3 days off, and I feel so bloated & sluggish, even with the workouts I've been doing.

So I adjusted my macros. I was doing 20-30 carbs a day. I'm going to do 50 or less now to see if my body better adjusts with the ketosis side effects.

I know I wasn't taking in enough salt, or potassium. Most likely why I had such an issue with chapped lips, cramps, and headaches.

I take multivitamins, and a magnesium supplement, I am going to start watching my sodium intake, and my water.

I feel like I can do the 50 carbs better, that way if I want the occasional banana to help with my potassium issue instead of taking another supplement I can, because I love my bananas. I missed them so. :D

We'll see how this works out now for the next few months...

Thanks for reading my vent session <3

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  • mrsfancyab
    mrsfancyab Posts: 64 Member
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    By the way, thanks with all MFP & Keto friends for the support! Y'all keep me motivated!
  • A_Dabauer
    A_Dabauer Posts: 212 Member
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    When raising your carb intake if you do food combining (eat items that slow the metabolism of sugar) you are able to maintain the low blood sugar levels while incorporating a few more carbs. I stay away from any refined carb, or starchy carb. But I do eat fruit on a regular basis and a complex carb like sweet potatoes on a less regular basis. Look up the Glycemic Index tables for fruit and it will give you a nice listing of the items that easily can be incorporated into a low(er) carb diet. As well eat protein with your higher carb items like fruit. So a piece of cheese, or handful of nuts with your fruit is a great way to lower the impact of those sugars :smiley:

    This is a more moderate way to do low carb but it can be successful if you are having issues with a true keto diet.
  • mrsfancyab
    mrsfancyab Posts: 64 Member
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    Good to know thank you @ A_Dabuer

    I did have a slice of cheese and a few slices of turkey with my banana this morning. I will surely look up the Glycemic index, thanks for that!

    The keto side-effects were driving me bonkers, the main thing was the chapped lips that was the worse for me. no matter what I put on them!!

    I read somewhere that if you do 50 carbs a day your body can be in ketosis as well, do you know if that's true?
  • Alliwan
    Alliwan Posts: 1,245 Member
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    mrsfancyab wrote: »
    Good to know thank you @ A_Dabuer

    I did have a slice of cheese and a few slices of turkey with my banana this morning. I will surely look up the Glycemic index, thanks for that!

    The keto side-effects were driving me bonkers, the main thing was the chapped lips that was the worse for me. no matter what I put on them!!

    I read somewhere that if you do 50 carbs a day your body can be in ketosis as well, do you know if that's true?

    I do 50g NET carbs a day, so 50g after i subtract fiber, a day and I am in ketosis. But my lips are so bad if i dont do it right. Drink lots of water, sometimes with a caffine free tea bag but most of the time plain and keep my sodium up. One poster, Dragonwolf i think, said you should view MFP's sodium requirement as a minimum. So you should always go over that number at the start of going for Keto.

    If i get my sodium and postassium, which i get from green leafy veggies and not bananas, and drink lots of water I dont have all the problems. It does help.

  • mrsfancyab
    mrsfancyab Posts: 64 Member
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    thank you!
  • deansdad101
    deansdad101 Posts: 644 Member
    edited October 2014
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    Alliwan wrote: »
    mrsfancyab wrote: »
    Good to know thank you @ A_Dabuer

    <snipped>

    I read somewhere that if you do 50 carbs a day your body can be in ketosis as well, do you know if that's true?

    I do 50g NET carbs a day, so 50g after i subtract fiber, a day and I am in ketosis. . <snipped>

    If i get my sodium and postassium, which i get from green leafy veggies and not bananas, and drink lots of water I dont have all the problems. It does help.
    Alli - MrsF;

    The 50 carb/day number is just a guideline - it varies by individual and is NOT a hard and fast line.

    One is not "out of keto" because they consumed 51 carbs yesterday, any more than they are "in keto" because they had 49 today.

    Alli, I think you meant to say "I do 50g TOTAL carbs..." (if you actually meant 50 net the fiber has already been subtracted, you don't get to do it twice <G>.

    The consensus in the various communities (LC, LCHF, VLCHF, "A", etc) seems to be that LC = <~100/day, entering ketosis (adaptation) requires <~20/day for ~2-4 weeks, and after adaptation it is possible to increase carbs per day anywhere from 20 - 50 or so.

    Above 50, "most" lose the "extra" benefits gained by remaining in ketosis (vs "just" LCHF).

    It's important to understand that keto isn't an "on-off" switch - it's a continuum which occurs generally in the range of 0 to 50 carbs/day. The lower the carbs, the higher the percentage of energy your body is obtaining from fat vs sugars and the less negative impact a "challenged" insulin production/regulation system will impart.

    Whether you are "in or out" of keto, and more importantly, exactly where you lie on the continuum is almost impossible (especially for those new to it) to determine without actually "counting" (measuring) the ketone bodies present.

    There are basically three tools available to do so:
    1) urine strips
    2) blood meter
    3) breath test

    Each measures a different marker. The urine strips are generally considered the least accurate for a number of reasons, they are the least expensive though.

    Blood meters are similar to glucose meters (some will do both) fairly inexpensive for the meter but strips run in the $3-4.00/EACH range. Accuracy is very good.

    The breath analyzers are relatively new, eliminate the need to get blood, and while the meter itself is more expensive (~$100) there is no "strip" cost. Accuracy is generally on par with the blood meters although it too is measuring a different marker.




  • Alliwan
    Alliwan Posts: 1,245 Member
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    Alliwan wrote: »
    mrsfancyab wrote: »
    Good to know thank you @ A_Dabuer

    <snipped>

    I read somewhere that if you do 50 carbs a day your body can be in ketosis as well, do you know if that's true?

    I do 50g NET carbs a day, so 50g after i subtract fiber, a day and I am in ketosis. . <snipped>

    If i get my sodium and postassium, which i get from green leafy veggies and not bananas, and drink lots of water I dont have all the problems. It does help.
    Alli - MrsF;

    The 50 carb/day number is just a guideline - it varies by individual and is NOT a hard and fast line.

    One is not "out of keto" because they consumed 51 carbs yesterday, any more than they are "in keto" because they had 49 today.

    Alli, I think you meant to say "I do 50g TOTAL carbs..." (if you actually meant 50 net the fiber has already been subtracted, you don't get to do it twice <G>.

    I'm not sure what you mean. Here in the States the fiber is included in the carbs so I have to subtract the fiber from my total carbs to get my net carb amount. That is only counting them once.

    and it is a guideline, i often eat 30g net carbs a day or 60g net carbs a day and i havent found it being a problem staying in ketosis. But if i eat near 75g net carbs for a couple days or more im out of ketotsis.
  • deansdad101
    deansdad101 Posts: 644 Member
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    Alliwan wrote: »
    Alliwan wrote: »

    I do 50g NET carbs a day, so 50g after i subtract fiber, a day and I am in ketosis. . <snipped>

    Alli, I think you meant to say "I do 50g TOTAL carbs..." (if you actually meant 50 net the fiber has already been subtracted, you don't get to do it twice <G>.

    I'm not sure what you mean. <snipped>
    Alli;

    I'm not (sure) either <g>.

    Misread what you had said. I took the "...so after I subtract...") to mean you were subtracting the fiber from the 50.

    My bad......sorry.

  • Alliwan
    Alliwan Posts: 1,245 Member
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    Alliwan wrote: »
    Alliwan wrote: »

    I do 50g NET carbs a day, so 50g after i subtract fiber, a day and I am in ketosis. . <snipped>

    Alli, I think you meant to say "I do 50g TOTAL carbs..." (if you actually meant 50 net the fiber has already been subtracted, you don't get to do it twice <G>.

    I'm not sure what you mean. <snipped>
    Alli;

    I'm not (sure) either <g>.

    Misread what you had said. I took the "...so after I subtract...") to mean you were subtracting the fiber from the 50.

    My bad......sorry.

    Its ok. I was confused there for a moment too!