lporter229 wrote: »

Do you generally run more tempo runs? speed work? shorter long runs? How does your over all weekly mileage compare? .

Generally it looks very similar to marathon training for me. I just cut out the runs over 16 miles. Peak mileage a bit lower.. I do tempos and speed work during marathon training and half marathon training

I believe in specificity. So, marathon training the tempo's are usually closer to AT and longer. In HM training, they are short and almost always at LT pace.

Whats LT and AT mean?

AT is closer the HMP and LT is closer to 15k pace. It's a hair faster really but those 15ish seconds per mile jaha a difference.

What is your recent 5k or 10k PR? I like to plug those guys into calculators to get a better idea what paces I should be hitting for my workouts. Chances are, your 5k/10k time will preject you running a faster 1/2 time than your current PR. I usually do time trails or races 5k-10k to gauge my fitness before I start my training, so I have a better idea what the appropriate paces to hit are

lporter229 wrote: »

CarsonRuns wrote: »

I believe in specificity. So, marathon training the tempo's are usually closer to AT and longer. In HM training, they are short and almost always at LT pace.

Good point. I hadn't really thought a lot about adjusting the pace of my tempo runs, but I tend to run them a bit slower if they are longer, so I guess an adjustment in pace would be natural if the plan called for a shorter run.

You suggest running them at LT for HM training. Referencing the Daniels calculators, there is a pretty big discrepancy between my LT based on my HM PR (7:43) and my marathon PR (8:14). I think I am capable of running the prescribed tempos at 7:43. Do you think this is the pace I should shoot for since this is based on the distance I am training for? Or is this not a reasonable way to estimate LT?

ETA: The numbers in parentheses is the est LT, not my PR pace.

LT is loosely defined as the pace you can hold for about an hour, so LT for your HM might be too aggressive; however, for HM training it's probably pretty spot on. In most cases, I wouldn't think you would run that pace in training for more than 30 minutes consecutively. One 30 minute segment at LT is going to tax you quite a bit, assuming a proper 4 to 6 mile warm up period and the volume from the rest of the week. It could also be broken up into shorter segments with brief recovery periods, like 3x10:00 with 1:00 recovery jog.

So, bottom line, I think you should do your LT work at the Daniels estimated pace. It should feel comfortably hard, then run a 5K 3 to 5 weeks before the HM and use your time in that race to estimate the pace you should run for the HM.

ATT949 wrote: »

Training2BeFast wrote: »

lishie_rebooted wrote: »

Whats LT and AT mean?

Lactate and Anaerobic Threshold... I thought it was the same thing. I'm confused.

They have very similar definitions. In terms of training for LD running, it could be my bias, but LT is a common metric whereas AnT (I think that's the right abbreviation) is not as common.

And, for another poster, "LT" is an abbreviation of rank in the US Army and, for people of that rank, it becomes their first name. ;-)

for some it may become their first name. but not for any of my commissioned friends.