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impylaurie2
impylaurie2 Posts: 20 Member
edited March 2015 in Social Groups
I have Hashimoto disease and I was on .25 medication. I was told I now have to take .75 does anyone know why the original dose is two low. I have notice that I was starting to get tired again and have no energy to go to the gym. What happens that you need to up your dose? I have had anxiety attacks most of my life and never knew it was because of my thyroid. I was put on Prozac years ago for the anxiety and Klonopin. I am now getting off Klonopin because they are finding as you get older you can get dementia and they are have me take a higher dose of Prozac.

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  • VastBreak
    VastBreak Posts: 322 Member
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    As far as I know with Hashimotos you can have more frequent swings with your thyroid. My first year of diagnosis I had blood draws every 10 weeks to try to get a decent reading of what my thyroid was doing. My doctor only made very small changes at at time though to try to avoid additional swings. By small I mean typically 10mg changes at a time.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,298 Member
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    It is considered the best treatment is to start low and then test and set a more appropriate, dose for you, (I went from .25 to .5 which they say is right for me), then test again to be sure, then when satisfied with the dose test annually. With Hashimoto's your symptoms will fluctuate though this depends on so many things including how far your condition has affected things.

    I have read of people with mental health issues which did/do not respond to regular/usual medication, then have been put onto thyroid function support medication and their mental health issues improve.

    I wonder how many of us would have faired better had a base line full blood test investigation been done at the outset of our seeking assistance rather than the application of statistics/probabilities known to doctors, who are probably doing their best within external limitations. (UK, here) Would we do less harm taking a more holistic approach? The body will present with a personal sample of "stress" related symptoms when something is preventing it from functioning as it should, be this too much or too little of something or even in this day and age in more affluent countries malnutrition which can come from an inability to extract what we need from the food we eat.

    Thyroid problems come with so many different causes, some not recognised, so there is no one size fits all remedy. Refer to Stop the thyroid Madness, website, and or national support sites to enable you to become your own advocate. Not everyone will have a hard time discovering what is right for them and doing it but so many of us are given the brush off time and time again.

    All the best in achieving the best health you can.
  • impylaurie2
    impylaurie2 Posts: 20 Member
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    Thank you so much for educating me. When I was in y late teens I remember going to the Dr for something and the doctor said maybe you should get her thyroid tested. I said no because I didn't want them taking blood. I most likely would have found out then. I have been afraid my whole life to have a physical part of anxiety. My husband who I have been with for 12 yrs told me I should because my dad and both sister's are on medication for thyroid. I was tired a lot. I bit the bullet and guess what Hasimoto's disease. Now I think it might have to do with all the anxiety and panic attacks I had growing up till I was put on the other medication.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    edited March 2015
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    I had terrible anxiety before my Hashimoto's was finally diagnosed. Please be patient, though—mine took quite a while to go away.

    I do yoga, meditate, and keep a list of non-food ways to make myself feel better. Self-care is important for everyone, but especially so when you're struggling with both Hashi's & anxiety. Please take care of yourself.

    PS. Therapy changed my life.
  • lindsey1979
    lindsey1979 Posts: 2,395 Member
    edited March 2015
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    A therapist I saw a while back suggested a thyroid disorder as I had certain ups and downs (lot of energy, semi-manic and then big crashes of fatigue, seemed like could be depression) that could look like bipolar but none of the behavior cues that go with it being a mental health issue. Sadly, I think sometimes thyroid conditions are misdiagnosed as depression or bipolar because of the swings you see in Hashi's. I was glad that that therapist was well enough informed to notice the difference (though, sadly, I didn't get the official Hashi's diagnosis for a few years later).

    As for when things go up or down, they don't really know. They just know that an "attack" can happen where the body had an autoimmune response that attacks the thyroid or related hormones (go hypo), the body creates more hormones (if still able to) to compensate then when the body stops attacking, you end up hyper because of the excess hormones. Over time, your thyroid deteriorates and you can't make enough hormones to compensate and you just end up more and more hypo.

    Why these "attacks" happen isn't really understood just like a lot of other autoimmune diseases. Some people notice that certain foods can be triggers and will alter their diet to see if they even out more -- gluten from grains and lactose and casein from dairy appear to be the most common. You'll see quite a few stories from people on this board or other thyroid boards that will say starting an elimination diet helped them figure out which foods they were having a reaction to and didn't realize it until they eliminated it from their diet. Then, editorgrrl will probably post her quote from the Mayo clinic that says no diets have been proven to make a difference. I think it's a misplaced quote as the medical community doesn't know what sets off a lot of autoimmune responses, so all we're really left with is anecdotal differences from others.

    I personally found that I did better with gluten out of my diet (despite what the Mayo clinic says about diet not being important), but I didn't notice a difference with anything dairy related or otherwise (yet). Some say they also are very sensitive to nightshades, though I don't notice a difference personally (though, to be fair, I don't eat a lot of nightshades anyway).

    One thing that has been shown to help is a daily dose of selenium -- 200 mg. -- for Hashi's patients. So many people supplement with that since it doesn't hurt you if it doesn't work.

    In the end, they don't really know all that much about the whys behind Hashi's and the manifestation is often a lot different for meany. Some like editorgrrl get diagnosed rather easily and respond to treatment of synthetics rather well. Others haven't been so lucky and there is a lot of trial and error involved -- from doses of synthetics, to switching to the naturals, to eliminating things from their diets, from altering exercises routines, etc. We semi-jokingly call it figuring out how to "align our stars" as there seems to be a lot of variance among the individuals.

    For what it's worth, my doc who is a thyroid and metabolic disorder specialist, says that he's found that his Hashi's patients tend to fare better on the naturals versus synthetics, though he freely admits that why this is isn't completely clear. He speculates that it's either because the naturals also have T3 in them whereas most synthetics are only T4 (unless you're also taking cytomel which is T3) or because that there is some benefit to having the other thyroid hormones in there that we don't currently understand. The naturals also have T1 and T2 as they're derived from cow or pig thyroid. We don't know what T1 and T2 do yet, but my doc speculates that that may part of the reason that he sees in his practices that his Hashi's patient do better on the naturals.