Why'd you quit?
wabmester
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Have you been low-carb before, and now you're back? What happened last time? How'd you fall off the wagon?
Last time for me was about 10 years ago. I can't remember exactly how I lost momentum, but I think it was caving into the social pressure. Family and friends were eating carbs, so carbs were ALWAYS available. Restaurants sealed my doom.
Maybe it was spaghetti that started my slide. Oh, what the hell, sure I'll have a little bread with that too. Chocolate cream pie for dessert? Well, just a small slice.
Pizza became irresistible. Popcorn at the movies? Of course. (In fact, I don't think I ever went cold turkey on popcorn.) Sandwiches are so friggin' convenient.
I was able to resist cookies and donuts for longer, but eventually I caved on those most evil treats. The only thing I almost never caved on were sugary beverages. There are so many good alternatives.
It's clear to me now that allowing myself any of the "bad" carbs (i.e., unnaturally delicious and unsatiating) is a road to carb over-consumption.
Now, I'm on round two of LC. I'm feeling great, and I don't want to backslide. Just logging my food and hanging out with you guys helps a lot. I guess as long as I keep going to this church, I'll be safe.
Last time for me was about 10 years ago. I can't remember exactly how I lost momentum, but I think it was caving into the social pressure. Family and friends were eating carbs, so carbs were ALWAYS available. Restaurants sealed my doom.
Maybe it was spaghetti that started my slide. Oh, what the hell, sure I'll have a little bread with that too. Chocolate cream pie for dessert? Well, just a small slice.
Pizza became irresistible. Popcorn at the movies? Of course. (In fact, I don't think I ever went cold turkey on popcorn.) Sandwiches are so friggin' convenient.
I was able to resist cookies and donuts for longer, but eventually I caved on those most evil treats. The only thing I almost never caved on were sugary beverages. There are so many good alternatives.
It's clear to me now that allowing myself any of the "bad" carbs (i.e., unnaturally delicious and unsatiating) is a road to carb over-consumption.
Now, I'm on round two of LC. I'm feeling great, and I don't want to backslide. Just logging my food and hanging out with you guys helps a lot. I guess as long as I keep going to this church, I'll be safe.
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Most of the times I wander off temporarily are due to laziness and lack of planning. This is the first time I've started with the intention of staying on it long term, and honestly, even when I have days where I eat crap, it's still better than my old "hummingbird diet". Hummingbird diet - where you eat your weight in sugar everyday!0
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Have you been low-carb before, and now you're back? What happened last time? How'd you fall off the wagon?
This is my 3rd or 4th time on low carb. I'm more knowledgable now, that helps. I wasn't necessarily doing LCHF before, just low carb/eat whatever else, so tons of protein some days, whatever.
But the main thing for me is that I needed to get off of regular, sugar filled sodas as a separate process from anything else in my diet. For literally years I drank more soda than water, very frequently in a 90/10 ratio of soda to water. I tried to cut out sodas countless times over the last 20 years. I tried to switch to atkins a few times and cut out sodas AND change the rest of my diet at the same time. One sip of a soda and I lost the entire diet. About 4 or 5 years ago I cut out sodas, by themselves, and finally had success and made it permanent. I had been off sodas for years before I tried keto. It made all the difference in the world.
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I was 3lbs away from my goal weight when we went on vacation for my cousin's wedding in key West. Anyway, one or two margaritas later I was out of keto. We get home and I try..sort of...to return to keto woe and then....bamb....my husband and I are excepting our first. So I don't even consider trying to continue... Probably could have.....9 months after my daughter is born I end up prego again....a beautiful oops. So here I am 10 weeks postpartum after my second baby determine to get back to eating low carb high fat. I'm breastfeeding and will be ( God willing) for at least year, so if there are any others out there lchf and breastfeeding I'd love more friends.......also, I don't need anyone telling me ketosis is bad for breastfeeding... Its not...and supply does not suffer as long as I keep hydrated and my calories up.0
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dessiepenn wrote: »I was 3lbs away from my goal weight when we went on vacation for my cousin's wedding in keyhuh West. Anyway, one or two margaritas later I was out of keto. We get home and I try..sort of...to return to keto woe and then....bamb....my husband and I are excepting our first. So I don't even consider trying to continue... Probably could have.....9 months after my daughter is born I end up prego again....a beautiful oops. So here I am 10 weeks postpartum after my second baby determine to get back to eating low carb high fat. I'm breastfeeding and will be ( God willing) for at least year, so if there are any others out there lchf and breastfeeding I'd love more friends.......also, I don't need anyone telling me ketosis is bad for breastfeeding... Its not...and supply does not suffer as long as I keep hydrated and my calories up.
I also "quit" my last go round when I found out I was pregnant and have just started back up with an 11 month old. I'm still breastfeeding and haven't had any supply issues. Though at this point I don't know if I'd mind if I did.
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I quit because we started living overseas and traveling way too much.
You ever try to eat Low Carb at an Airport?
Plus we knew this was a chance of a life time and wanted to enjoy it and experience it to our fullest. No way was I going to live and travel through France and Italy and NOT eat everything yummy.
I mean come on, they fresh bake baguettes 2x a day!0 -
dessiepenn wrote: »I was 3lbs away from my goal weight when we went on vacation for my cousin's wedding in key West. Anyway, one or two margaritas later I was out of keto. We get home and I try..sort of...to return to keto woe and then....bamb....my husband and I are excepting our first. So I don't even consider trying to continue... Probably could have.....9 months after my daughter is born I end up prego again....a beautiful oops. So here I am 10 weeks postpartum after my second baby determine to get back to eating low carb high fat. I'm breastfeeding and will be ( God willing) for at least year, so if there are any others out there lchf and breastfeeding I'd love more friends.......also, I don't need anyone telling me ketosis is bad for breastfeeding... Its not...and supply does not suffer as long as I keep hydrated and my calories up.
It's complete hooey. I was pretty much keto the first 9 months that I breastfed my youngest. I had gestational diabetes that lingered after the birth. So I stayed on the diet but was able to chuck the meds. He's the only one I never had a short period of supply issues with, and I breastfed all 4 of my kids.
Which segues into the original question. Yes I low-carbed before. I did the 70s Weight Watchers my senior year in high school from some old materials I got from mom. I don't know how much weight I lost, but I lost quite a bit. I would say I was about 160. But I went to college and Skittles and candy called to me here and there. The real problem happened after I got mono when I was 19. I never fully recovered and gained 80lbs that year.
Off and on I tried the modern WW and went to meetings or just tried to eat less. I failed over and over or would lose 20lbs and then fall off the wagon and regain. I had to have my bread, and pizza, biscuits, cookies, and chocolate.
During the pregnancy of my 4th child, I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes and put on a diabetic diet, which you wouldn't actually consider low-carb, but it was slow-carb. I followed it to a T and though I was on meds I didn't have to go on insulin. After the birth, as I said before, it lingered. So I stayed on it, but gradually just dropped breads, sweet potatoes, pasta, and rice completely. I just didn't want them. I did eat fruit, apples and oranges, occasionally. Fruit has never been a thing for me. I felt good and exercised. I dropped 40lbs like it was nothing. But something good happened that was bad. My A1c came back at 5.4 and the doctor told me I no longer had diabetes. You can guess what happened next. My carb-monster woke up. And I began to eat myself to death on chocolate, pizza, chocolate milk, Doritos, italian bread, and more chocolate. Having a 1/4 c sugar in each cup of coffee. And hit the sodas. And I pretty quickly put it all back on.
That was that until last year, when 2 things happened: my mother was hospitalized due to diabetic complications and almost died, and my husband sent me a progress pic from an r/keto girl who'd lost 80lbs. So I got scared and nosy, and rummaged around on r/keto and found another smaller exclusively-LC forum for support. The rest is history. I started tracking here about 3 months in when I stopped losing just counting carbs.
What is different about this time? I had to come to terms with the fact that I'm carb intolerant, as Phinney and Volek call it. I can't eat those things. They pack the pounds on like crazy and stimulate raving cravings for more. I'm drawn to eat myself to death. I'm a chocoholic. I can polish a whole back of Hershey's Miniatures in less than 2 days. If I don't eat it, I get to where I don't want it, and I can keep my eating under control. I can't just have "a little bit." I'm not going back to that ever again.0 -
I did Atkins in 72. Lost a lot of weight. I do not remember now how much. I was rail thin at 105 pounds or less some times with very little effort as long as I stayed away from bread potatoes and sugary goodies. I ate all the LC veggies I wanted. Then a very stressful time happened in my life for about 4 years and big life changes and I slowly drifted way. I only gained about 10 pounds so I was not worried and had no trouble keeping it to that. I still did not eat breads or goodies.
Then menopause happened and the carb monster came alive. The weight started coming on. Gained about 20 more pounds. Then I quit smoking and kept gaining. I think I replaced cigs for food. Then with no insurance I ran out of my thyroid meds for 7 or more years and the weight piled on pretty fast. Then more stress with hubby sick more weight.
It was a very slow drifting away from LCHF. All of this happened over about 30 years. The last 30 pounds was the last 2 years. Finally desperate to get this weight off. It is much harder now I am older. Finally on the downward trend.
I am only blaming myself. I just think I turned to food during stressful times. I decided now I will just spend money during stressful times instead of eat. Hope the money does not run out because I am spending it on buying good foods for me. LOL0 -
Quit because I reached, or thought I reached my weight goal, and started tapering off to a more moderate carb intake. I don't think I could eat low carb long term though, as I don't have any issues (besides weight loss and desired aesthetics) that predicate low carb as something necessary or worthwhile doing long term for me. I'm more a happy balance guy, and once I can find the balance between health and pleasure with my eating habits, I am happy.
I've learned a lot by doing low carb though, and have no intention of jettisoning any of that, even if the future for me lies with a more moderate carb intake. The benefits of a high fat content in my diet are not lost on me, and that shall be allied to moderate protein and moderate carbs from mostly decent sources, for my happy balance.
I haven't eaten low carb in any structured way since before Christmas, but right now I'm actually dabbling with where it might fit in for me, and it may become a regular element of part of my diet again. For now, my exploration is around a feast-fast protocol, where besides eating in a reduced window each day (12- 8pm, ala 16:8), I want to see how dividing that eating window up into an undereating phase at the start of it, before concluding it with a feast phase at the end of it, works. I like how I feel energy-wise on low carb, and my current focus is on eating that way during my aforementioned undereating phase, before eating a large meal of anything I want after it.
I will add before I concluded 5/ 6 months of low carb late last year, I found it impossible to keep to anymore. My thoughts became binge-y, despite having willpower of iron up until that, but not sure how much of that was as a result of a sustained and aggressive enough deficit (1- 2 lbs a week), reaching a low enough bodyweight (by my history), or simply the low carb factor. I'm sure it was an element of all three, but I am conscious of the hormonal sustainability of low-carb should I include it again, as I plan to do.
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Another person with lack of planning and lack of will power. I was as one point 2lbs away from a BMI of just over weight starting at morbidly obese, then I went out, had fries and boom! that was it. Now I'm morbidly obese again (though I don't take too much stock of BMI.
What I need to keep on track are friends, and accountability. That's why I'm going to a WW weigh in every week even though I don't follow their plans.0 -
I followed the "Belly Fat Cure" (BFC) diet, which emphasized staying under 40g of total carbs and 5g of sugar per meal (for a total of 120g carbs and 15g sugar per day). It was a big eye-opener for me, to realize how much sugar was in everything. My husband was actually the one who said he wanted to try it, so I did it to support him. I hadn't really been thinking much about dieting before that (though I knew I needed to lose weight).
We stayed on it for a good while, maybe 4 or 5 months, during 2010. My husband lost over 25 pounds and I think I went from 155 to 138.
Then our area was hit by two hurricanes a month apart, plus a big snow storm another month after. Each time we lost power for about a week, and we threw out SO MUCH food (both in quantity and in value) that we got gun-shy about restocking the fridge.
We started living on fast food, even after we got a generator.
It took us forever to think about trying again, and each time we'd fall flat within two weeks. At the same time, some lessons stuck with us, and our groceries were generally the lowest carb items we could find, and we avoided artificial sweeteners as much as possible. It was just that we'd always end up eating fast food. We'd say we were going to replace one meal with it (after a stressful day or such) but then it'd be the next four nights, ending with a pizza whose leftovers fueled the next two...
I think my excuse was that I wanted us to do it together so it'd be cheaper to grocery shop, but now that I'm doing this on my own I'm finding it's not really all that much more expensive, especially since my meals are smaller and less frequent, and generally consist of the same basic staples I was eating anyway, and less side dishes. And I'm not feeling like when we fail, we need to fail together. (We are fantastic co-enablers.)
Now my husband is watching me, and I see his interest growing more keen. He warned last Thursday night as we were driving home from a night out, that I sounded like I was becoming food-obsessed. I told him that now I actually feel like I'm "free" from food. I just talk about it a lot because I feel so incredible (and I talk about tracking because I'm a geek for numbers). He has said that he's felt ruled by the next meal ever since we started the BFC way back when, and he's working his way around to giving LCHF a try.
I think right now his hurdle is the thought of all the things he'll "never eat again." Which includes some treats that we were planning on our next trip to Disney. Like the Belgium waffles with Nutella, banana, blueberries, and strawberries at the Sleepy Hollow tavern in Frontierland. He sounded genuinely upset I wouldn't be joining him. Well, now that I've been eating this way I find I'm nauseous whenever I eat wheat products, so I have other reasons not to join in. But genuinely I'm just feeling like "I'd be happy to sit at the usual table and sip a cappuccino while everyone else has one." There's plenty to eat for low carb at Disney, if you don't care about food other than for fuel. Heck, I could probably ask for a cup of just whipped cream with the berries, and they'd probably accommodate me. (Major props to Disney for that, really.)
I started LCHF in the form of the BFC "Fast Track" program on Feb 23 (last month). I was planning to strictly follow the plan to "let it work" but within a couple days I found this forum and all its information on LCHF, which I believe was the principal behind the Fast Track (though looking back I don't think it had NEARLY enough fat and restricted meal sizes an awful lot even though it did say briefly to eat if you're hungry). I switched tracks to work toward Keto-adjustment, which I now believe I've achieved.
I'm down just about ten pounds in the last four weeks (six of which were in the first week). My husband says he can see the difference in my face (last night he was looking at a selfie I took not long before I started), and more importantly he's been enjoying the less dramatic moods I've been experiencing.
I haven't tried to have a 'cheat day' or felt much more than an emotional longing for favorite foods. Each time I evaluate the desire for something that doesn't fit the LCHF WoE, I realize I don't actually want it. I usually just want the positive emotions I associate with that food, which can be found in other ways!
I think the difference this time is the self-awareness I practice when I think I want something, the avoidance of psuedo-foods (sex with your pants on philosophy), and my willingness to take responsibility for my actions and not worry about what my husband is doing.0 -
I first tried Atkins sometime in 2002 or thereabouts after my first child quit breastfeeding (she was born in October 2000 and breastfed for one year). At that time I tried to do Induction as a vegetarian (lacto-ovo), but I couldn't survive the keto flu, which I had never heard of at the time and thought I was going to die, so I quit. Then I tried it again with a roommate and her mother and finally started eating meat (I was 27 years old when I first tasted steak) so I wouldn't starve. We stayed on it for several months, and all of us lost quite a bit of weight, but then we got lazy and started eating whatever we wanted. I also had a hard time mentally with eliminating "real food" carbs (like potatoes and rice) but being able to eat Atkins or other sugar-free candies/chocolates/etc. After that I bounced around to several other diets, the most successful of which for me was a Raw Food Detox Diet (a la Natalia Rose)--I maintained that one for a good year or so and got down to about 165-170 lbs and a size 12/14 pants (pear shape, so I was in S/M tops at the time). I felt amazing, but it was so hard to keep up with juicing every morning, going through vegetables and fruit like they were nothing, and spending a lot of time in the bathroom, LOL. It took a while for the weight to creep back on as I started eating more crap and less good stuff, but then I met my now husband and we started having babies. I gave myself liberty to eat pretty much whatever I wanted when pregnant, knowing I'd have to buckle down afterward. And that's what happened. After my last baby was born (this past September) I looked around for weight loss plans, and everything I read pointed to low carb as a healthy, sustainable, and relatively quick route to weight loss and overall health. So here I am. I haven't nailed down exactly what I'm doing, and as long as it's working I don't see a need to. I have been under 40g net carbs a day for a little over 3 weeks now, and I have lost about 13 lbs in that time. I just modified my macros today and am going to try reducing my carbs a bit more, so we'll see!0
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Octo: Just FYI, Disney is AMAZING about making GF stuff if you want to try something on your vacation. Ask them if they make a GF version, 'cause many things they do.0
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Octo: Just FYI, Disney is AMAZING about making GF stuff if you want to try something on your vacation. Ask them if they make a GF version, 'cause many things they do.
Thanks, yes they're awesome! I can't have their bottled water (Nestle brand, which has magnesium sulfate in it) so they always are happy to give me water from their soda fountain no charge, and they have added fridges to my hotel room for no cost. I have to say their customer service is amazing across the board. But the hotel cafeterias have an amazing selection and I am not even worried about what I'll eat. I can load up on bacon and eggs for breakfast and walk the park all day with just water!0 -
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I told him that now I actually feel like I'm "free" from food. I just talk about it a lot because I feel so incredible (and I talk about tracking because I'm a geek for numbers).
I haven't tried to have a 'cheat day' or felt much more than an emotional longing for favorite foods. [/quote]
You NAILED it…"free of food that rules you!" I just found a free podcast "Dana's Low Carb for Life" she explained the net carbs and sugar alcohols questions, of how companies try to trick us into thinking we can write off their stuff as low carb. There are 28 shows in all, iTunes download. Jimmy Moore-Living La vida LowCarb has hundreds of shows I haven't started yet.
http://danaslowcarbforlife.com
DANA'S SITE: http://lowcarbohydrate.net
all of it is fun to have on in the background, like radio, and I just reply parts of interest.
Jimmy's
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/im-not-sidestepping-the-term-low-carb/752
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I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
The long and short of it is for me, I had to way WAY up my fats. I couldn't tolerate much fat/grease/drippings before because of my carbs, but cutting carbs and my body LOVES the fats. I even used the roasted chicken drippings on my broccoli last night instead of butter and was in freaking heaven. I had to truly drop carbs, not just net carbs, lose most sweeteners, learn to sweeten to take the edge off, not to "sweet" values, and embrace the fats (and sodium/potassium/magnesium) and to stop thinking of anything as a cheat. I make a LCHF/Keto version of something, or take one to two bites of the "leaded" item, or I don't eat it. End of .... I haven't run into anything that tempted me beyond that point in nearly 3 months... And my guy never stopped eating the carbage in front of me, and I can tell you, temptations are nearly gone!! I didn't even notice the scents of the food, which I would have always noticed before...0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
She has decided that living with mom, rules, chores, and expectations wasn't happening. her stepmom to be and her dad convinced her to "cut me out of her life," so sadly I have no idea how 14 is going. Its a long story. and I'm living with it.
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
She has decided that living with mom, rules, chores, and expectations wasn't happening. her stepmom to be and her dad convinced her to "cut me out of her life," so sadly I have no idea how 14 is going. Its a long story. and I'm living with it.
I wish I could say I can't relate..... but I can. Why are exes so cruel??
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
She has decided that living with mom, rules, chores, and expectations wasn't happening. her stepmom to be and her dad convinced her to "cut me out of her life," so sadly I have no idea how 14 is going. Its a long story. and I'm living with it.
I wish I could say I can't relate..... but I can. Why are exes so cruel??
Honestly, I think mine resents me for being better off and happier without him. I think, in this case only, it is a "guy" thing. I personally can be happy for him if he's happy, as long as I don't have to deal with his ex. I've seen people have one big happy family, but my ex was never a happy person unless he was manipulating someone. I guess he's luck that his 22 year old girlfriend (he's 41 this year) is running his life now, dressing him and all. LMAO
Considering taking your ex back is like going to a garage sale and buying back all of your old *kitten*. Just sayin'. 0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
She has decided that living with mom, rules, chores, and expectations wasn't happening. her stepmom to be and her dad convinced her to "cut me out of her life," so sadly I have no idea how 14 is going. Its a long story. and I'm living with it.
I wish I could say I can't relate..... but I can. Why are exes so cruel??
Honestly, I think mine resents me for being better off and happier without him. I think, in this case only, it is a "guy" thing. I personally can be happy for him if he's happy, as long as I don't have to deal with his ex. I've seen people have one big happy family, but my ex was never a happy person unless he was manipulating someone. I guess he's luck that his 22 year old girlfriend (he's 41 this year) is running his life now, dressing him and all. LMAO
Considering taking your ex back is like going to a garage sale and buying back all of your old *kitten*. Just sayin'.
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »I tried Atkins back in somewhere near 2002, after my daughter stopped nursing (she was born October, 2000, too, @Mami1976D LOL!). I was able to stick with it a while, and lost decently, but I never kicked sugar. I did sugar alcohols to avoid the hard quits, never added enough fats...and once I figured out how much I could cheat and stay in ketosis, it was a down hill slide. Since that was low carb, high protein, moderate-ish fat, I would say that it really doesn't qualify, exactly. I do remember not having food slumps after lunch being the highlight. For me, it just wasn't sustainable.
Oh dear. How is 14 going for YOU?
She has decided that living with mom, rules, chores, and expectations wasn't happening. her stepmom to be and her dad convinced her to "cut me out of her life," so sadly I have no idea how 14 is going. Its a long story. and I'm living with it.
I wish I could say I can't relate..... but I can. Why are exes so cruel??
Honestly, I think mine resents me for being better off and happier without him. I think, in this case only, it is a "guy" thing. I personally can be happy for him if he's happy, as long as I don't have to deal with his ex. I've seen people have one big happy family, but my ex was never a happy person unless he was manipulating someone. I guess he's luck that his 22 year old girlfriend (he's 41 this year) is running his life now, dressing him and all. LMAO
Considering taking your ex back is like going to a garage sale and buying back all of your old *kitten*. Just sayin'.
Do we have the same ex?
Dear gods above, I hope not! I was married for almost 17 years (divorced almsot 3 now), so that would mean bigamy! LOL But I think many exes who haven't truly moved on for their own health fall somewhat into this category!0 -
Just saw something on Facebook that seemed relevant here: "Never get jealous when you see your ex with someone else, because our parents taught us to give our used toys to the less fortunate." I'd like to add, if they're with your ex...they're probably less fortunate!
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Oh no, that was a really bad joke. My way of saying he sounds a lot like mine.0
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