Bacon question please help
shai74
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How do I work out the calories in bacon? There are so many different types, short bacon, middle bacon, streaky bacon. The fat amount in each varies. Even in streaky bacon, it can vary from one week to the next.
Also, if I weight it raw and then cook it, a lot of the fat is cooked out and not eaten. How do I know how much. If I cook it until it's crispy and then weigh it, it'll be different to if it's cooked but not crispy.
I love bacon, but lately I've been really struggling with eating it as I don't know how to record it in my diary. I always used to weigh it raw and put it in, but then I'm recording a lot more fat and calories than I'm actually eating.
Also, if I weight it raw and then cook it, a lot of the fat is cooked out and not eaten. How do I know how much. If I cook it until it's crispy and then weigh it, it'll be different to if it's cooked but not crispy.
I love bacon, but lately I've been really struggling with eating it as I don't know how to record it in my diary. I always used to weigh it raw and put it in, but then I'm recording a lot more fat and calories than I'm actually eating.
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Is the package labeled?
Picking one way and sticking with it (whether it's raw weight, saved fat or not, soft vs. crispy) will be your best bet for the long run. Consistency is more important than 100% accuracy.0 -
You can use the info in the package (scan the barcode) the brand I use is a raw value, or if you're buying bacon from the deli section there is a Bacon - Raw choice and a Bacon - pan fried choice.
I use the pan fried choice.0 -
Keep it simple. Eat all the drippings and log it raw.0
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Ugh, but then I can only have a little bit Goat. 100g raw middle bacon is 540 calories. Cooked, this is not much bacon at all, and way to many calories.0
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Yeah, it is a lot of calories. I don't get 540 calories. The value I use only gives me about 420 calories for 100g (USDA values for: Pork, cured, bacon, unprepared). I do about 100g [raw] each morning with my eggs. My breakfast today was about 760 calories (63.5g fat / 44g protein / 3g carbs). Most of the carbs come from the eggs, but there is about 1g of carbs in 100g of bacon.
But, I realized that using the raw value was the best idea. Since, I never drain the fat and I pour the scrambled eggs right over the cooked bacon and mix it all up together.0 -
I don't do the same quantities or proportions but the rendered bacon fat incorporates easily into a bacon cheese mix.0
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For low carb you shouldn't need to record calories. Try counting carbs instead. Bacon is 0. Enjoy it!0
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tinakegley wrote: »For low carb you shouldn't need to record calories. Try counting carbs instead. Bacon is 0. Enjoy it!
Well, not 0... about 6g per pound (for normal bacon, possibly less for the no sugar added kinds). Still, I'm right there with you about not counting calories.
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tinakegley wrote: »For low carb you shouldn't need to record calories.
If only that were true for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not. I know I'm finding I still have to cut farther back on calories than calculations (and general satiety) says I should. I will agree that even in situations like mine, being exact with measurements and whatnot is less important and there's less need to stress over it all.
That said, 100g of bacon seems like quite a bit. I know I probably wouldn't be particularly hungry after that much.0 -
I think 100g of raw bacon sounds like a lot. But, it's really not much. It's about 2-4 slices, depending on how thickly cut they are. A full pound of the bacon in my fridge is estimate to have 16 slices. That would be 3.5 slices per 100g. No one would be very full after 3.5 slices of bacon.0
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Can I add to this bacon thread? Seeing as we have the bacon officinados here.
What about the sugar that is in almost all bacon's except the super expensive kind. I know they use it to cure it, but also cause it makes it so darned good.
I'm guessing people are finding that effect of the refined sugar to cure the bacon has negligeable effects on people's results or cravings? I'm kind of sugar-phobic at the moment so have avoided bacon. (I also don't really find the hassle of cooking it worth the effort).
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I usually buy the no-sugar added bacon. It is usually branded as the "lower sodium" kind. Then, in small print it will also mention there was no sugar added. Even if I end up grabbing regular bacon (not one that is actually intentionally meant to be sweet), I don't stress too much. For the amount I eat, it works out to be 1-1.5 grams of sugar. That's low enough for me to consider it within the margin of error. If I ate a whole pound, it would be less than 6 grams. I will survive. When I eat out, I am sure there's more sugars in rubs and seasonings used on the dry ribs I usually eat.
Basically, my advice would be to know it's there, but you shouldn't stress about it.0 -
tinakegley wrote: »For low carb you shouldn't need to record calories. Try counting carbs instead. Bacon is 0. Enjoy it!
I'm new here - I'm not sure I trust this enough to stop tracking calories yet - although my tracking so far indicates I could, I'm coming in at calorie target or a little under so far. I'm going to give it another couple of weeks and if that still applies I'll stop worrying about calories, and see what happens.
Bacon is awesome. I fried mine in butter last night - then used the bacon fat butter mixture to fry the mushrooms I had with it. Utter deliciousness!0 -
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I usually buy the packaged bacon. (No, the fact that it's packaged isn't the weird part...read on.) If the serving sizes on the nutritional label are "per slice" and there are x servings in the package, I actually count the slices and buy the package that has the stated number of slices! I've seen some of the 12 oz packages (1 slice = 1 serving) range from 8 slices to 14, depending on thickness!
I also tend to avoid unlabeled foods because I get really confused about which weight to log for meats when I look up stuff like "pork chops".
Some of the meat counters at grocery stores around here have bulk bacon. I kind of avoided that for a while, but it was on sale once and I couldn't resist. I found out it was Boar's Head brand, and was able to find a package of it with nutritional info to enter. That was a good day for me.
I just wish I knew how to figure out how to log things like those fancy giant slices of in-house pork belly slices turned into delicious flavoured bacons that they sell at the Whole Foods here. They look so beautiful.
Regarding sugar in bacon, there is usually "less than 1 carb" in a serving for the kind I eat. My fiance eats the kind that's solidly on the "1 carb per 2-slice serving" line.
I find that the amount of carbs is "negligible" for the amount that I eat as I'm still well under my daily net carb limit.
Pederson's makes a no sugar added bacon that I've seen at the stores. It even has a label proudly declaring that it's Paleo Friendly. It looks great, but I am not sure I want to drop $10 for a pack of bacon.
-T.
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Whole Foods will list the ingredients of their bacon. The dry rub is the only one without sugar and also happens to be the best bacon I have ever had. Ever. Each store should have one bacon they flavor in-house. You can just ask the butcher about it. The guy that makes the sausage and cuts the bacon most likely works from store opening to mid afternoon. You might get a chance to ask him directly. They usually also slide it differently so you can ask for it thick or thin. That does make logging a challenge if you really want to be precise. I am okay with ballpark as I don't think logging is super critical when low carb.0
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I also tend to avoid unlabeled foods because I get really confused about which weight to log for meats when I look up stuff like "pork chops".
Statements like this always make me sad for our society. It's a sad testament when people are afraid to eat real food, because it doesn't come with a 100% exact label.
I generally go by cooked weight, though I'm not all that picky about my meat measurements. That whole "3oz is about the size of your palm" type of thing. Like Goat said, it doesn't really matter (and there are entries for both in MFP), as long as you're consistent.
So please, please, don't be afraid of real food, just because there's not a label attached to it! The label isn't particularly accurate, anyway (there's as much as a 20% swing on them).0 -
Almost nothing I buy comes with a label (except the bacon and sometimes eggs). You can't go wrong with real meat.0
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Well, I didn't eat any meat except for seafood (and eggs) for 26 years, so just eating meat is pretty new for me this century. Also not used to weighing and logging all the things. I guess it's not that I'm afraid to eat whole foods...it's that I'm afraid to log it wrong and then screw up the delicate balance I've found to stay in ketosis.
Sometimes the numbers I find for nutritional information on unlabeled foods vary SO much that I just get frustrated and decide to eat something else so I know I'll stay on track. Maybe once I get more comfortable with my new way of eating, it won't be such a big deal...but for now, lots of extra protein (for example) is going to throw my system off.
I guess you're right - consistency is the key so I can log it and see if I ended up gaining or dropping out of ketosis when, according to the numbers logged, I shouldn't have.
-T.
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Sometimes the numbers I find for nutritional information on unlabeled foods vary SO much that I just get frustrated and decide to eat something else so I know I'll stay on track.
I advise you to not investigate the amount of error and variance allowed on nutritional labels if that sort of thing stresses you out. That's before rounding is done, which only makes things less accurate. In a sense, it is impossible to really know the real content of the food you eat. Even if you use exactly the right USDA entry for your food, that's based on a statistical average for that food. You have no idea if what you're actually eating is close to that average or not.
It's just too much to stress about the details. Worry only about the big picture.0 -
That's good advice not to worry about the details. It's hard for me to try to find what I eat on the MFP data base. I buy 95 % of my meat straight from the farm. Last year I bought 1/2 cow, 1/2 pig, 24 chickens, and one huge turkey, along with a lot of extras. I'm lucky that my farmers do not use gluten or any other fillers in their homemade sausage, or any sugar in their nitrate free bacon, but I don't think I will be able to find exactly what I eat on this site, unless I'm looking for a certain brand of cheese or whatever. I just aim for an approximation. Otherwise I try to eat real food and get as much as I can from alternate sources, i.e, not the grocery store.
I guess I agree with Fit_Goat in the trying not to inflict stress on myself, but also I try to avoid eating food that comes with a label. The label may make it easier to track and count your calories and macros, but may not be worth it nutritionally.0 -
I've been buying from farmers as well, and it gives you control over how you want your meat processed. I do buy bacon though, because my daughter likes the very thin sliced, and our farm smoked comes thick. I love them both, so I'll eat whatever shows up out of the kitchen.
I love having a culinary student in my house.... LOL
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Kitnthecat wrote: »[. . .] but I don't think I will be able to find exactly what I eat on this site, unless I'm looking for a certain brand of cheese or whatever. I just aim for an approximation. [. . .]
I know some of the foods I enter, when I enter them, aren't correct. I use the USDA raw pork bacon entry, which has a little over 1g of sugar per 100g of raw bacon. But, the bacon I actually eat is the no sugar added kind. Am I really going to stress about finding the right entry for no sugar added raw bacon by the 100g? Life's too short for that nonsense. So, my food log occasionally over-estimates the carbs.
I've even done this before with some restaurant foods. I'll get the burger with no bun, and just enter the burger as listed on the website. Sure, there's like 40-60g of carbs now in my diary that I didn't eat. But, is it worth the hassle of hunting down a bun alone to subtract the values? Nah.
I agree with the idea of eating mostly whole foods, as close to nature as possible. But, that does mean no nutrition label. Which means you're guessing a lot of the time, even if you weigh and measure everything.0 -
Thanks Fit_Goat. I agree with what you say, and even though I'm trying not to stress over it, I do feel better now, knowing that others have the same situation. I find it is easier to track the bacon when I count it as raw. I like to chop up a couple of pieces of bacon and cook them up, then add eggs to the bacon and all the fat in the pan and eat it all.....then go straight to work smelling like bacon and drive my co-workers crazy.0
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I'm with Fit-goat in that I let MFP overestimate my carbs. I don't deduct fiber either for net carbs.
I just don't want the hassle, and stress of being that detailed. My effort in tracking is to teach myself a lifelong skill in recognizing carbs without needing the calculator. It will be a life skill that could ultimately save my life... or at least add many years to it.0 -
Yep, I do that, too. I do try to find a "no bun" version, but if I can't, I don't worry about it, and I'll put a note just so I remember when I look back at it later. Since I'm watching calories a little closely, I do try to subtract a couple hundred calories, just so the tracker's not completely unnecessarily way over, but I generally ignore the carb count on the sandwich, or mentally estimate based on what was on it, especially if it's something like a California burger that has weird stuff like avocado on it or whatever.0
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Good suggestions. Thank you. I have been known to stress over trying to find a "no croutons and dressing on the side" entry for caesar salad when I eat out. -_-
So today I lived dangerously and had some unmarked pork chops for dinner. I seasoned them with a dash of paprika, garlic and onion powders, salt and pepper, and fried them in bacon grease left over from breakfast. I served them with a side of slivered almonds and cabbage sauteed in the remaining grease and deglazed with some chicken stock. It was delicious.
I weighed the cooked pork chop portion I had and it was 2 1/2 oz. Entries I found varied greatly. Is 2.5 oz cooked pork chop really only about 100 calories?? O_O
-T.
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2.5 oz? Did you really eat that little? That's like 70g! It's nothing.
But, yeah, it probably would be around 100 calories.0 -
I stress about the details. I can't help it. I either micro-manage every little thing I put in my mouth, or I eat with abandon. There's no middle ground for me. I tend also to only eat things that come in a packet with a label. And individual serves is great (like those little 40g tubs of Philadelphia cream cheese). I weigh my butter every time I put it in my coffee. I weigh my mayo. Everything.
Calories matter to me. I know some of you say they don't but guess what? if you don't eat at a deficit, you don't lose weight. I've tried only counting carbs, and I don't lose weight eating in excess of 2000 cals a day - even at only 10g of carbs.0 -
Here's my thoughts on the matter of unlabeled food:
The egg is not layed with a label attached, the cow does not have a label on it's ribcage, rump, or loin, and that pig that just got into my freezer, well it has never had a label. Labeling things like that, even for someone who counts calories, is a tad bit too wonky. Never look into the fat/dress out percentages on lambs and pigs and steers if variation bugs you.
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