Does This Happen At Your Box?
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Does anyone else have people that bail out in the middle of the WOD? Tonight was 100 snatches and burpees. Yes, it was effin hard. But unless I pass out or die I refuse to stop. To me, that's just embarrassing and admitting you're a quitter when things get uncomfortable. Tonight three people quit midway through the WOD. I was really surprised they just gave up. To each his (or her) own, but, it's beyond me how anyone can be proud of themselves when they quit.
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I timed out a few times early on. If the next class is taking the floor it's over.0
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AllanMisner wrote: »I timed out a few times early on. If the next class is taking the floor it's over.
I promise you that wasn't the case. We are the last class of the day. These people just bailed because it got hard.0 -
Fortunately no. One time, I even took 45 minutes to complete a WOD with a 20 minute cap once that included thrusters and running, and sobbed through the last 25 minutes. Our coaches make us finish even if time is up. Our gym doesn't make us move out for the next class, so we all just happily work around each other.
Sorry it killed your vibe, those are the people that cant look themselves in the mirror...0 -
learning2fly4 wrote: »Fortunately no. One time, I even took 45 minutes to complete a WOD with a 20 minute cap once that included thrusters and running, and sobbed through the last 25 minutes. Our coaches make us finish even if time is up. Our gym doesn't make us move out for the next class, so we all just happily work around each other.
Sorry it killed your vibe, those are the people that cant look themselves in the mirror...
I have not finished a WOD in the allotted time, but I was like 10 lunges away from finishing, so when he called time I said "I'm finishing! I didn't do all that sweating to quit! Time cap was 30 minutes and I did 30:110 -
A WOD like that should have a time cap on it. Either one of those things is a workout from hell in and of itself. And I'm not sure doing 100 snatches is every a good idea, I can't imagine the utter lack of form and technique that would be involved with doing the last 10 or 20 reps.
I had a WOD last week where I wanted to quit and got a stomach cramp half way through and almost used that as an excuse, but I was able to loosen it up and finish the workout.
One of the many times where if I was alone I'd have walked away, but with people there cheering me on I stuck to it.
There is a CF Masters group on Facebook run by Freddie Camacho, who has been a Games competitor for years. He calls workouts like that "any *kitten*" workouts. As in any *kitten* can program it, but it doesn't seem to have any purpose other than being ridiculously hard. That workout kind of reminds me of an "any *kitten*" workout.
I'll also add that if I hit my "If I do another rep I'm gonna hurl" point, I will stop or dramatically scale down the workout.0 -
bostonwolf wrote: »A WOD like that should have a time cap on it. Either one of those things is a workout from hell in and of itself. And I'm not sure doing 100 snatches is every a good idea, I can't imagine the utter lack of form and technique that would be involved with doing the last 10 or 20 reps.
I had a WOD last week where I wanted to quit and got a stomach cramp half way through and almost used that as an excuse, but I was able to loosen it up and finish the workout.
One of the many times where if I was alone I'd have walked away, but with people there cheering me on I stuck to it.
There is a CF Masters group on Facebook run by Freddie Camacho, who has been a Games competitor for years. He calls workouts like that "any *kitten*" workouts. As in any *kitten* can program it, but it doesn't seem to have any purpose other than being ridiculously hard. That workout kind of reminds me of an "any *kitten*" workout.
I'll also add that if I hit my "If I do another rep I'm gonna hurl" point, I will stop or dramatically scale down the workout.
It seemed a little much to me as well, but who am I to question? He was watching out form and as far as I know, I did fine. He also said if you need to sit out a round, feel free to do so to catch your breath. These people were not close to throwing up, passing out, or anything else. They were just being lazy. It got too hard. Funny part is these are the ones who brag constantly on fb about how much they love crossfit and are ready to "kill" the WOD, etc. Let's just say their fb pages were petty quiet after they bailed.
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Never seen that at mine but for timing out, as Allan said.0
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Generally I don't quit but there are reasons some may not complete. If your muscles hit the point of failure and you can't do any more. I once had to have my coach lift me on the pull-ups because my arms were too tired to do the work. I should have just called it a day but the coach knew I don't quit and wanted to make sure I was able to finish. I'm a diabetic if my blood sugar gets to low I can't continue (I have never had this happen, but if it did I would stop). If you are injured or new you will likely need to scale and part of scaling may mean less reps, etc...0
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We have a younger guy who is diabetic and has a bump. If that thing starts beeping or whatever he stops immediately and checks to see what the issue is before he continues.
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I understand all those issues (medical
And whatnot) but I know all of these people and they simply quit because it got hard. The woman next to me said "Ugh screw this, I can't do anymore" and she's been going long enough that (if she would do the WODs right) she could be in good enough shape to finish, even if it means pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone. After she bailed she was walking around laughing it up with people, not seeming the least bit bothered. Well I'm gonna quit talking about it cause that's them, not me. I'm
Pushing myself to new heights, going for a PR as often as possible. I refuse to half *kitten* and expect to be lean, fit , and trim just by showing up to the gym.0 -
I think you’ve touched on something that I bring up quite often on the fitness forum. Commitment. So many people go into something like crossfit without really having a plan. They see others in great shape and say, "I want that.” They never committed to the change, otherwise it would be, “I need that.”
Don’t be discouraged by others quitting. You are running your own race. Creating the lifestyle you deserve. Enjoy!0 -
I understand all those issues (medical
And whatnot) but I know all of these people and they simply quit because it got hard. The woman next to me said "Ugh screw this, I can't do anymore" and she's been going long enough that (if she would do the WODs right) she could be in good enough shape to finish, even if it means pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone. After she bailed she was walking around laughing it up with people, not seeming the least bit bothered. Well I'm gonna quit talking about it cause that's them, not me. I'm
Pushing myself to new heights, going for a PR as often as possible. I refuse to half *kitten* and expect to be lean, fit , and trim just by showing up to the gym.
That sounds more like a coaching problem than anything else.
On the few occassions I had to stop a WOD (once for a cramp, once for a sore lower back) I hung around and cheered everyone else on.
That sort of behavior isn't tolerated at our box, if someone did it they'd be told to be quiet by either an athlete or a coach.
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(I think I have cheated a few times where I got lost in my reps- or the rounds-count and I choose to give myself the benefit of the doubt. But I am not going to admit that anyplace else, or ever again.)
No. I have never seen anyone just quit.
I suppose it is better than hurting yourself.0 -
^There have definitely been times where we had something that was like 5 burpees and five squats per minute for 15 minutes and I knew I was not going to be able to keep the pace. Told the coaches beforehand that I'd hold it as long as I could. They would say to pick a time (40 or 45 seconds) and if you can't finish by then knock a rep of each movement.
I'd do that then for the last 2-3 rounds I'd do Rx and just go for it.
I have never seen anyone say "this is too hard I can't do it." Crossfit is about hard work but also about scaling if needed to make sure you can finish the workout.0 -
bostonwolf wrote: »I understand all those issues (medical
And whatnot) but I know all of these people and they simply quit because it got hard. The woman next to me said "Ugh screw this, I can't do anymore" and she's been going long enough that (if she would do the WODs right) she could be in good enough shape to finish, even if it means pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone. After she bailed she was walking around laughing it up with people, not seeming the least bit bothered. Well I'm gonna quit talking about it cause that's them, not me. I'm
Pushing myself to new heights, going for a PR as often as possible. I refuse to half *kitten* and expect to be lean, fit , and trim just by showing up to the gym.
That sounds more like a coaching problem than anything else.
On the few occassions I had to stop a WOD (once for a cramp, once for a sore lower back) I hung around and cheered everyone else on.
That sort of behavior isn't tolerated at our box, if someone did it they'd be told to be quiet by either an athlete or a coach.
I heard the coach tell her to sit out a round if she needed to so she did, then I think she did 2 more snatches (after taking all the weight off her bar) and then just quit. He didn't look happy, but he always says quit if you need to. The operative word is NEED to. The ones that quit didn't need to. They wanted to. It was one of the hardest WODs I've done but I finished the damn thing. I wasn't about to stop even though it woulda been easy to.
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bostonwolf wrote: »I understand all those issues (medical
And whatnot) but I know all of these people and they simply quit because it got hard. The woman next to me said "Ugh screw this, I can't do anymore" and she's been going long enough that (if she would do the WODs right) she could be in good enough shape to finish, even if it means pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone. After she bailed she was walking around laughing it up with people, not seeming the least bit bothered. Well I'm gonna quit talking about it cause that's them, not me. I'm
Pushing myself to new heights, going for a PR as often as possible. I refuse to half *kitten* and expect to be lean, fit , and trim just by showing up to the gym.
That sounds more like a coaching problem than anything else.
On the few occassions I had to stop a WOD (once for a cramp, once for a sore lower back) I hung around and cheered everyone else on.
That sort of behavior isn't tolerated at our box, if someone did it they'd be told to be quiet by either an athlete or a coach.
I heard the coach tell her to sit out a round if she needed to so she did, then I think she did 2 more snatches (after taking all the weight off her bar) and then just quit. He didn't look happy, but he always says quit if you need to. The operative word is NEED to. The ones that quit didn't need to. They wanted to. It was one of the hardest WODs I've done but I finished the damn thing. I wasn't about to stop even though it woulda been easy to.
Obviously they felt they needed to. If you're satisfied with your performance that day, that's all that matters. What does it matter what someone else did or didn't do?0 -
My coach would say:
Sounds like shoddy programming to me, honestly.0 -
Y'all are misunderstanding me. I guess you'd just have to had been there. And yes I'm beginning to think the WOD was not well programmed.0
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Does anyone else have people that bail out in the middle of the WOD? Tonight was 100 snatches and burpees. Yes, it was effin hard. But unless I pass out or die I refuse to stop. To me, that's just embarrassing and admitting you're a quitter when things get uncomfortable. Tonight three people quit midway through the WOD. I was really surprised they just gave up. To each his (or her) own, but, it's beyond me how anyone can be proud of themselves when they quit.
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Why does it matter to you what others do during a WOD? I know you mentioned later that they were loud after they quit but if you're busting your butt during a WOD, what does it matter to you if others quit? Focus on yourself and your performance. There's been plenty of times I scale, take long breaks, etc. and I hope to god people I WOD with aren't as judgey as you were in the OP.
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^^bit of an over-reaction, IMO. Her question is a legitimate one. It caught me off guard because I've never seen anyone in my gym quit a WOD just because they were tired and felt like it.
If you're feeling ill, sure? If you're injured or feel that an injury will result if you continue? Absolutely. I've done that myself.
The whole point of CF is to push yourself to places you wouldn't go by yourself. If you, on a regular basis, are saying "this is too hard I can't do it" then you are either receiving bad coaching or CF just isn't for you.
All that said, I'll also agree that I think that WOD was just plain stupid and I probably would have scaled it to 50/50.
I've never seen anything more than 50 snatches for time programmed OR 100 burpees for time. Combining them both is creating a situation where people are going to struggle to put out max effort for far too long a time and while they are extremely fatigued. You are just asking for in jury.
If I look at a workout and can't immediately answer "what is the point of this" then I'd raise that question with the coaches. I've never done that at my box, which is why I'm still a member.0 -
The coaches at my box don't want us cleaning up until everybody is done. I think it is rude that they left. They should have stuck around and cheered everybody else on. Great job on 100 snatches.0
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I've never noticed anyone quit halfway through a WOD unless injured. In our box no-one clears up without the last person being finished, that's just rude. Unless they are new and people quickly pull them up on it, I can't think of anything worse than being the last to finish while everyone around you is packing up. We have a class straight after our 5.45am class so no chance to go over time unless you move to the next room. Programmes should have a end time and usually our WOD's fall within that.
Sounds like bad programming to me - especially all those snatches!
At the end of the day each to their own and just work your own WOD.0 -
At my box, people will start putting equipment up when they finish their WOD, but they won't leave (they'll cheer on folks that are still working). And then when they're done, we'll all chip in and help get the rest of the equipment cleared. So, if you're last, you have several people there to help put your stuff away. I don't think it is rude to clear your equipment when you're done, just don't up and leave while others are still going.0
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Does anyone else have people that bail out in the middle of the WOD? Tonight was 100 snatches and burpees. Yes, it was effin hard. But unless I pass out or die I refuse to stop. To me, that's just embarrassing and admitting you're a quitter when things get uncomfortable. Tonight three people quit midway through the WOD. I was really surprised they just gave up. To each his (or her) own, but, it's beyond me how anyone can be proud of themselves when they quit.
Ok rant over
I have never seen anyone quit at either of the CrossFit gyms I have been a member of. I have seen people dial down the weight or scale down a movement mid-WOD but I think that's OK.
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We had a guy pull out last night, but he felt something tweak in his shoulder during a WOD of cleans and hand stand push ups.
I don't count that as quitting, that's just being smart.0 -
Yes I saw one guy drop out at the new box a few weeks ago but I didn't think anything of it or ask any questions. Assumed it was injury related. He went up on the board as DNF.0
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learning2fly4 wrote: »Fortunately no. One time, I even took 45 minutes to complete a WOD with a 20 minute cap once that included thrusters and running, and sobbed through the last 25 minutes. Our coaches make us finish even if time is up. Our gym doesn't make us move out for the next class, so we all just happily work around each other.
Sorry it killed your vibe, those are the people that cant look themselves in the mirror...
Hold up, what?! Do your coaches not know what the point of a metcon is? Maybe I'm missing some information, but this alone sounds like a reason to find a new box.0 -
learning2fly4 wrote: »Fortunately no. One time, I even took 45 minutes to complete a WOD with a 20 minute cap once that included thrusters and running, and sobbed through the last 25 minutes. Our coaches make us finish even if time is up. Our gym doesn't make us move out for the next class, so we all just happily work around each other.
Sorry it killed your vibe, those are the people that cant look themselves in the mirror...
Hold up, what?! Do your coaches not know what the point of a metcon is? Maybe I'm missing some information, but this alone sounds like a reason to find a new box.
I must have missed this before as well. What the heck is the point of a time-cap if you ignore it entirely?
If I'm REALLY close to finishing at the cap, I'll finish. Like last week ended with a 750m row, I was at 525 when the cap hit so I spent another minute or less finishing.
If I'm a member of your box, why would I ever kill myself to squeeze in reps under the timecap if I know coaches will try to make me finish the reps?
I say "try" because if they told me I had to finish the workout after timecap, I'd tell them to *kitten* off and leave.0 -
there are one or two offenders who are kind of known for doing this within my gym, but the other 150 don't do this. though, i can imagine how i'd probably want to bail out during that specific wod too lol0
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