BPC
CoconuttyMummy
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For those of you who partake in a little Bulletproof Coffee, when do you generally consume it? - breakfast? lunch? snack?
Do you find it satisfies your hunger and gives you a similar amount of energy as a solid meal with comparable calories/macros? Or do you tend to have it when you're not feeling hungry but know you need some calories?
Also what recipe do you use? Ive been using 1 tbsp butter and 1 tbsp coconut oil in a double espresso plus extra water, and sometimes half a scoop vanilla protein powder.
Im just trying to figure out if there's a place in my diet for BPC because i love the taste but so far havent found it fill me up the same as food would.
Do you find it satisfies your hunger and gives you a similar amount of energy as a solid meal with comparable calories/macros? Or do you tend to have it when you're not feeling hungry but know you need some calories?
Also what recipe do you use? Ive been using 1 tbsp butter and 1 tbsp coconut oil in a double espresso plus extra water, and sometimes half a scoop vanilla protein powder.
Im just trying to figure out if there's a place in my diet for BPC because i love the taste but so far havent found it fill me up the same as food would.
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I have mine for breakfast. Occasonal I will have 3 pieces of bacon with it but usually the BPC is enough. I've noticed that when I eat a meal for breakfast I feel lethargic and get headaches for the rest of the day.
Mine BPC is
2 cups {strong} coffee, 4 drops ez sweetz, 1 tbs coconut oil, 1 tbs organic grass fed butter, and 1 tbs HWC.0 -
I drink it for breakfast and morning coffee break. I usually eat eggs along with breakfast, but sometimes skip breakfast on the weekend. The BPC plus breakfast keep me going all day. I only drink water from mid morning until supper. So it lasts me 10-12 hours. I find that my energy level is through the roof while drinking it. I am seldom hungry.
I use 2 Tbsp unsalted butter, 1 Tbsp MCT oil with about 20-24 oz of coffee. I don't use sweetener or protein powder, but will sometimes throw a raw egg in there when time is short and there is no time for breakfast.0 -
I'm confused as to the use of it.
I have started adding coconut oil to my coffee and find it more filling and it holds me over till around 10:00.
Some posts on BPC here seemed like it was intended for food fasts to hold you down on cravings but still has lots of calories
I admit, I don't understand the purpose or use of BPC as it was I guess created to fulfill.
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I have it for breakfast. Mine is 2 TBSP chia seeds, ground, 1 TBSP coconut oil, and coffee. I use a handheld blender to mix it.0
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It doesn't fill me up alone. Liquids of any sort never fulfill me the way food does. I will consume with a small breakfast (maybe BPC coffee, hard boiled egg and string cheese) if I haven't prepared anything and/or am running late, or I'll drink it if I know that I need a larger breakfast because I won't be able to eat lunch on time.
I say: do what works for you.0 -
The purpose of BPC is to be delicious. oh and adds some fat too... but its mostly just delicious.0
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I think BPC can have different purposes for different individuals. I like that cocount oil can speed up my metabolism with my hypothyroidism, and together with the coffee, ensures I stay regular in the bathroom. It is fabulous for my energy level. And the extra fat that I don't get in my lean grass fed meat is welcome. I am a coffee lover too, so this is a natural for me. I even bought a cheap immersion blender for work. And I never need to pack a lunch.0
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First thing in the morning, I do eat breakfast couple hours later, something lite.
My BPC varies, I drink coffe maybe 3 times a day, one with coconut, one with butter and one black. All with HWC0 -
The legend goes something like this:
https://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/
I first learned about the power of butter at 18,000 feet of elevation near Mt. Kailash in Tibet.
I staggered into a guest house from the -10 degree weather and was literally rejuvenated by a creamy cup of yak butter tea. The biohacker in me asked, “why?” and after a couple years of careful research, that was the genesis of the recipe below, which is today, used by Billboard recording artists before they go on stage, world champion athletes, and some of the world’s top executives, because it has a massive impact on cognitive function.0 -
The legend goes something like this:
https://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/
I first learned about the power of butter at 18,000 feet of elevation near Mt. Kailash in Tibet.
I staggered into a guest house from the -10 degree weather and was literally rejuvenated by a creamy cup of yak butter tea. The biohacker in me asked, “why?” and after a couple years of careful research, that was the genesis of the recipe below, which is today, used by Billboard recording artists before they go on stage, world champion athletes, and some of the world’s top executives, because it has a massive impact on cognitive function.
I enjoy the folklore part.
How it came to be
Thanks!!
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Ahaha, i see.
I think i'll save BPC for those days im too busy or too tired to prepare a solid breakfast/lunch or if im not that hungry.
It does truly taste delicious but i definitely feel more full on real food. However, that might change if my appetite reduces after a while. At the moment i still take quite a bit of filling!0 -
Sometimes I use a Rocket Fuel Latte instead of breakfast. This morning I made it with coffee, 1 Tbsp coconut oil, 1 Tbsp cacao butter, 2 Tbsp hemp seeds, 1 Tbsp Great Lakes Gelatin.
Calories: 408
Carbs: 2
Fiber: 2
Fat: 38
Protein: 18
Original recipe source: http://www.healthfulpursuit.com/2015/04/rocket-fuel-latte/
I found that a plain fatty coffee didn't really substitute for a meal for me. I tried a straight up Bulletproof style coffee like the original recipe (but with my own coffee beans) one day and was SO HUNGRY and my stomach was in knots. I do, however, have it for a morning fat bomb to get my brain going, but I pair it with some bacon and eggs usually.
-T.
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Sometimes I use a Rocket Fuel Latte instead of breakfast. This morning I made it with coffee, 1 Tbsp coconut oil, 1 Tbsp cacao butter, 2 Tbsp hemp seeds, 1 Tbsp Great Lakes Gelatin.
Calories: 408
Carbs: 2
Fiber: 2
Fat: 38
Protein: 18
Original recipe source: http://www.healthfulpursuit.com/2015/04/rocket-fuel-latte/
I found that a plain fatty coffee didn't really substitute for a meal for me. I tried a straight up Bulletproof style coffee like the original recipe (but with my own coffee beans) one day and was SO HUNGRY and my stomach was in knots. I do, however, have it for a morning fat bomb to get my brain going, but I pair it with some bacon and eggs usually.
-T.
Oh wow, i love the look of this - and her other 3 rocket fuel latte recipes. I'll give these a go and see if they keep me satisfied and functioning better for longer than regular BPC. Thanks Teneko.
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I still haven't tried it, but I really can't imagine it'd fill me up better than food. Interested though, because I love creamy drinks.
And actually I am more interested in trying the rocket fuel latte, but I was scouring the internet looking for where I could buy the ingredients... and they're all ridiculously expensive and out of my budget right now.
If anyone has resources where I could find cacao butter and collagen (?! I'd probably forego that anyway) please let me know 0 -
I do my BPC for breakfast instead of skipping it. I use a cup of coffee, 1 T. Cold expelled coconut oil, 1 T. Kerrygold butter, sometimes a packet of Stevia in the Raw, and blend on high in a Vitamix until I get a nice foam. Enjoy. I've only done it a few times because my mom drank the rest of my coffee
but I got more so it's a go for tomorrow. Thus, can't really comment on effects. 0 -
i LOVE my butter coffee..I call it that as I dont follow the BPC recipe. I bought a wonderful bottle of MCT oil just recently as I initially didn't grasp why it was added to the coffee. This MCT has such great flavor I just have it 1 tbl at the same time, not in the coffee. I j read that butter gives fat that takes hunger away for longer, and MCT give instant energy via its fat..so makes sense to have both.
I see the butter coffee as the 'break fast' but since there is no sugar or carbs, protein it is NOT "food" just a way to kickstart my day..and I usually eat something 2-4 hours later depending on schedule.
I usually make a large shake every morning- 3 cups unsweet almond milk/spinach/berries/Sun Warrior hemp protein, stevia, maybe kale, or added collagen powder, and blend well…this gives me quick protein and nutrition, and makes 3 servings, so I keep the blender in the fridge and just grab a cup as I go. I am on a SLP diet- for my wonky kidney- so having easy digestible hemp protein powder works for me. my focus is now on what veggies to eat, and not on protein anymore, so switching to a plant based diet- with eggs & dairy, NOT vegan, makes life easy. In fact too easy to consume too many fats since I am not having carbs or average protein.0 -
I have the BPC for breakfast. Mine is 1tbsp unsalted butter, 1 tbsp hwc, 1 tbsp coconut oil in 1 cup coffee. I find keeps me full far longer than food for breakfast. I also add extra in on days when my protein seemed high & wanted more fats to stay keto (according to flexibleketo calculator).0
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I will drink coffee for breakfast if I am not ready to eat yet. Or I will replace lunch with it if I have eaten breakfast because I'm not hungry for more food. Or sometimes I'll just have coffee for both meals if I am feeling particularly lazy. Caffeine is an appetite suppressant, and couple that with the low carb decreased appetite and the calories from the fat, and many people can just keep going without any other food for quite some time. If I pair mine with a healthy dose of salt at breakfast (two or three slices of bacon, say, or a mug of buttered broth) I am easily full until it's time to start making dinner, but by then I'm REALLY ready to eat. I don't care for salted butter in my coffee, and I really need that extra hit of salt for the staying power, but if I plan on eating lunch I usually don't bother.0
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Okay, this is ridiculous. I just had one about 30 minutes ago and now I feel like I could eat everything in the house. I wasn't this hungry before. Total opposite effect.0
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I can't wait to have my BPC in the morning. Its become a habit with me and it helps me get energized to start my day. Yummy!0
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I found the cacao butter for about $23 for a giant brick at the local coop here in Austin. This was after calling around Sprouts and Whole Foods. The Whole Foods told me that their usual brand has been MIA for months. I told them I found Navitas brand at Wheatsville and the lady said she'd check with their supplier. Yes, it's expensive. It's also very good and it lasts. My brick says there are about 35 servings at 1 Tbsp (13 oz) each. There are some online vendors that I've yet to check out, but DittoDan says the BulkApothecary.com store has the goods. I just...didn't wanna wait for or pay for the shipping.
If you're not sure you want to dive into the gelatin / collagen, try picking up a box of unsweetened Knox Gelatine at your local grocery store. Look in the cooking supplies. I used that before I found a source for the Great Lakes gelatin which I initially ended up buying on Amazon. Again, GIANT container. Lasts forever. Still have barely dented it.
And yeah...standard Bulletproof Coffee Classic made me feel SO HUNGRY that I swear I was gonna gnaw my knuckles off. The Rocket Fuel Latte worked so much better for me.
But everybody's different. My needs are to get energy and kick-start my brain first thing in the morning, and hold me over until lunch. Also, I really like convenience and drinking my foods. I am a weirdo who really doesn't like chewing sometimes. Maybe it's my TMJ...
-T.
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Thanks, Teneko. Bulkapothecary.com is the cheapest online I've seen so far. With the shipping, a 14oz amount of cocoa butter plus shipping is about the same amount you paid for a giant brick of it at the coop! I guess I could check out local health food stores and just save up.0
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@Teneko I tried the rocket fuel. Might have been too many new things at once, but didn't really enjoy it. Subbed chia seed for hemp hearts as I left them at my daugter's, & knox gelatin for the collagen. Think will start slow with the cacao butter & try to get used to it's flavour also (love the smell). It's much richer than I'm used to.0
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I have my BPC first thing in the morning - I use coffee, coconut oil and grass-fed butter (kerrygold, salted) with half a tsp of vanilla and cinnamon.
It's basically pure fat, so it gives me energy without spiking my insulin... then I'll eat when I'm hungry, which is usually around 1-2pm.0 -
I still haven't tried it, but I really can't imagine it'd fill me up better than food. Interested though, because I love creamy drinks.
And actually I am more interested in trying the rocket fuel latte, but I was scouring the internet looking for where I could buy the ingredients... and they're all ridiculously expensive and out of my budget right now.
If anyone has resources where I could find cacao butter and collagen (?! I'd probably forego that anyway) please let me know
Have you seen the other Rocket Fuel recipes? -
http://www.healthfulpursuit.com/recipe/rocket-fuel-cafe-mocha/
http://www.healthfulpursuit.com/recipe/dairy-free-eggnog-rocket-fuel-latte/
They may contain ingredients more readily available to you.
I had a regular BPC this morning with 1 tbsp butter & 1 tbsp coconut oil, and then just added 1 tbsp chia seeds and a pinch of vanilla powder and it was really nice, but most notable is that this time it HAS satisfied me and i feel great. That 1tbsp chia made all the difference.
Ive have ordered the hemp hearts and collagen/gelatin from Amazon, so i can try the proper Rocket Fuel Latte and compare, but i havent shelled-out (yet) on the cacao butter as its expensive, but most importantly im unsure whether this really is a better alternative to butter. Does anyone know what the benefits of cacao butter over grass-fed cows butter is meant to be?
I've been reading The Bulletproof Diet book and he states that there is something in butter that is beneficial on the keto/BP diet called Butyrate, a short-chain saturated fatty acid. Im not clever enough to explain this fluently but basically it helps weightloss, along with a host of other connected benefits. If someone knows more (it wouldnt be difficult - im only at the very start of my research regards this WOE) specifically about Butyrates and the benefits of grass-fed butter on keto, maybe they could chime in and share some info.
Id be hugely interested as to what benefits cacao butter has and how it compares to grass-fed butter from the standpoint of losing weight on keto?
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Butyrate is good stuff. Your gut bacteria produce it when they ferment fiber. Cows do too, which is why you'll find a bunch in butter.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/12/butyric-acid-ancient-controller-of.html0 -
II'll give this a read in a moment, thanks. It sounds like something i want in my diet, for sure!
I wonder if cacao butter contains any Butyrate, or something equally beneficial? I need to ask uncle Google. 0 -
Cacao butter doesn't have butyrate in it, though it may have other beneficial compounds. Cacao butter is called "butter" because of the texture (though it's actually quite a bit harder than most other butters) and that's where any commonality to dairy butter ends. Dairy butter has butyrate in it, because it's dairy butter -- as wabmester said, it comes from the fermented fiber in a cow's diet and is transferred to the milk. Cacao butter is made from a plant itself, so this fermentation never happened, though it does mean it contains a number of plant-derived antioxidants and whatnot.0
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Hmmm...
"Nutrients in cacao:
Cacao is a powerhouse antioxidant and rates in the top 20 on the Oxygen radical absorbance capacity (ORAC) scale. The ORAC scale is used to rate the antioxidant capacity of foods.
Cacao also contains great levels of magnesium, which is an essential mineral during times of stress and helps you to feel more relaxed. It also contains manganese, zinc, calcium and potassium.
Raw cacao even contains good levels vitamin C"
Nice that it contains magnesium & potassium.
No Butyrate as far as i can tell, though, and i dont think theres any lovely CLA either like in cows butter.
I'll stick to my KerryGold for Rocket Fuel Lattes i think. One day i might get some cacao butter to make sugar-free raw chocolate with though.
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Butyrate is good stuff. Your gut bacteria produce it when they ferment fiber. Cows do too, which is why you'll find a bunch in butter.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/12/butyric-acid-ancient-controller-of.html
Thanks for sharing this, nerded out hard and will make this a practice daily now
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