Why do you listen (or not) to music while swimming?
fishgutzy
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Personally, I don't listen to music while I swim.
One reason is cadence. While walking it is fairly easy to adjust stride length and pace to keep time with the tunes. That The cadence matching just happens when I walk. But when I'm swimming my cadence is fairly constant. Music is far to distracting for me. I'd end up mentally blocking it out and wouldn't really hear it anyway.
Another reason is that the to hours it takes me to swim 6000 yards is great meditation for me. The sound of the water, breathing, and mental stroke counting is therapeutic for me.
Ironically, though, at work, blasting Daughtry in my ears can help me stay focused on work. Though my humming and feet tapping can be distracting to other in a cubicle world office. At the home office that is nit a problem. Only two of us in separate areas. And nobody to chuckle if I standing and bopping to the tunes while working a layout.
But swimming, I just focus on stroke count and technique.
One reason is cadence. While walking it is fairly easy to adjust stride length and pace to keep time with the tunes. That The cadence matching just happens when I walk. But when I'm swimming my cadence is fairly constant. Music is far to distracting for me. I'd end up mentally blocking it out and wouldn't really hear it anyway.
Another reason is that the to hours it takes me to swim 6000 yards is great meditation for me. The sound of the water, breathing, and mental stroke counting is therapeutic for me.
Ironically, though, at work, blasting Daughtry in my ears can help me stay focused on work. Though my humming and feet tapping can be distracting to other in a cubicle world office. At the home office that is nit a problem. Only two of us in separate areas. And nobody to chuckle if I standing and bopping to the tunes while working a layout.
But swimming, I just focus on stroke count and technique.
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I exercise because I must ...I much prefer swimming over other forms of exercise, but I don't swim just because I love it so much. I swim because routine exercise is important for long term quality of life. As such, the doing of the exercise is not some transcendent or joyful experience. It makes me tired and sore. So I listen to something to distract me, to help me not think about the fact that I am putting so much effort into quickly going nowhere. It helps the time pass more quickly. Of course I choose to listen to audiobooks instead of music. Because if I didn't have to exercise I'd probably be reading anyway (which is how I got up to the weight where exercise became critical).0
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I've never actually tried to listen to music (or audio books) while swimming although I could see the benefit in motivation. Sometimes I swim and love every minute and sometimes it's a chore I have to do to check off my list.
What has kept me from trying it is probably the gear. Despite the fact that it would only be a small thing, it seems like I already have so much. Before I get in the pool, I am putting on a cap, goggles, ear plugs and a watch. I'm dragging out one, two or all of the following from my mesh bag - fins, kick board, pull buoy, paddles and my water bottle and if swimming on my own, a workout sheet. I swim before work and get ready at the Y, so add in all my work stuff that I have to remember to haul into the locker room. I am already a bag lady!0 -
I can't listen to music/audiobooks while swimming, to easily distracted and quickly lose count of where I am in my routine. As Fishgutzy said it would be hard to keep a constant Cadence.
Ironically I use music when I run to help set my Cadence. I tend to start slow ( 120 B/min ) and then slowly build my cadence/speed over the first 2 kilometers and then settle into my long distance eating trot (160-170 B/m).
So my music starts out on slower songs and then each subsequent song is just a little bit faster. I have a dozen different play lists built, 5 starters and 5 normal run sets and 2 variable pace/speed work sets.
So I will stack play lists to get the desired time or distance workout.0 -
About 4 years ago my wife asked me if I wanted a waterproofed iPod & I told her no, figuring it would be too distracting - I had enough trouble keeping track of my yardage & didn't want to make it more difficult. She got me 1 for Christmas anyway, so I figured I'd give it a shot. Lo & behold, I found my mind actually wandered less & it was easier to keep track of my yardage because I would stay just focused enough on the music which would keep me from getting too far "out there". It also helps distract me just enough on the days that I have little aches & pains, I tend not to notice them when I'm listening to music. I'm a live music junkie, so I'm always downloading full concerts to listen to - 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 hours a day in the water means I can listen to a LOT of shows....
mpeters - the 1 thing I will say as far as the amount of time getting set up with equipment is that it literally takes seconds, the iPod clips right onto the goggle strap & just pop the ear buds in....0 -
I don't have a waterproof mp3 player, so I've never tried it. I could see myself listening to Audiobooks while swimming - I've done so while hiking, and I listen to music while running or circuit training. But I haven't felt like its something I need. I enjoy swimming, and I spend a lot of time counting strokes or laps and wouldn't be able to do that with an Audiobook. Music would probably work, but again it's not a need or a big enough want to feel like I should spend the money on yet another gadget (I'd much rather spend the money on more coaching, anyway).0
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I used to have an Otterbox that I could put my iPod nano into. It was pretty cool to swim with it, but I was dissatisfied with the quality of earphones at the time. I'm an audiobook addict and recall with some fondness the cognitive dissonance of listening to Dune while swimming
Since then? I just never got the new equipment to do so. Because I am focusing a bit more on swimming for itself rather than as the least painful form of exercise there is (which is DEFINITELY how I started out) I decided not to bother getting the new equipment to do so.
I would think in open water, such things would be downright dangerous. As it is, I don't hear instructions from my escort kayak very well and I would hate to think I'd missed out on hearing a motorboat or a jetski.0 -
I listen to music while I swim for the very reason that Fishgutzy doesn't - cadence/ stroke rate.
I set my entire playlist to a fixed stroke rate/ beats per minute matching my target stroke rate for the swim (currently 67.5 strokes per minute or 135 BPM), and then aim to stick to that pace set by the uptempo music throughout. For the first 2 to 3 lengths it feels leisurely, and then quickly becomes more and more grueling maintaining that pace. Works sort of like a treadmill. Also means when my stroke rate is dropping, I realise it immediately.
I never realised how stroke rate tends to be high at the start of a length (and swim session) but has a tendency of dropping as the length goes on before you reach the other side (and deteriorating during the course of the swim). Now, the music ensures none of that is happening. So it is a much more challenging workout then before, especially since I set a much higher target rate. But it has helped me develop a much more consistent and steady stroke rate, and keep it higher (since I have an objective point of reference different from how I'm feeling) for the duration of a swim.
Now if my music player stopped working and I couldn't get another, I would at least get the cheaper Finis Tempo trainer to beep the tempo for me during the swim, and force my body to maintain pace throughout!
So now stroke rate is one less thing to think about during the swim, and I focus on stroke length and all the rest of the technique that buzzes through my head throughout the swim.
Up tempo music also keeps me pumped up and energized - especially when I am doing a 5 a.m. swim alone in a dark cold open air pool with a smattering of rain! Yep - the music definitely helps!0 -
A former colleague used a swimming metronome for cadence.
I don't have the patience to sift through hundreds of songs to find 2 hours of constant cadence tunes.
I swim at 5AM too. I also have enough stuff already in my bag. Plus I like my Bose sound headphone sound quality.
I may add a swimming metronome. But that is all.0 -
I'm new to swimming, so adding in more stuff ($$) seemed like I was getting ahead of myself. There are days when I love the quiet. I work with 3, 4 and 5 year olds. Sometimes after work, I love to pull my swim cap low and listen to the bubbles. However, I think it might help if I had songs to set my cadence and stroke rate, as I am still unsure of what a good pace is for me. I know it when I feel it, but I would rather not have to think "speed up!" or "Slow down!" and just swim. I've been tempted. Some of your answers are making me think about it again, lol.
I have found that I have met a couple of really interesting swimmers at the pool that I might not otherwise have spoken to if I had earphones in. Then again, I'd probably be paying closer attention to my 15 second rests and getting back on task with music. I'd LOVE to reach the ability level to listen to books or podcasts. When I was running, TED talks were my favorite. Or Radiolab. I wouldn't swim to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me because it makes me laugh, and that might be dangerous for me swimming!!0 -
I use this iPad app to synchronize all my music to a speed/ BPM that I wish. So no need to try to pick music that matches my target tempo! Sweet
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Maybe that app is in Android. Just say no to fruit0
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It may not be although there is usual an android equivalent for most of these apps!
For some slow songs though, it just doesn't work, as they sound ridiculous when speeded up much much faster than the tempo they were originally written/ recorded in.
So I select a playlist of already reasonably up tempo music, then use the app to harmonies them all into one steady uptempo pace!0 -
You could try the Jog FM Site and use it to build a Swimming Playlist. Or at least catalogue which songs you want in your playlist and load them from your existing on-line source or your own private collection.
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For walking pace l like ZZTOP, Foreigner, Keith Urban...
But I have never bothered to figure out what my stroke cadence is
It does very some based on how effective my reaching is. When I'm at 20 per length and 55 seconds per lap I'm probably around 60 SPM.
Of course the beat count gets dicey when it is a waltz. Do you count each beat? or every third?
Daughtry: Life After You and Tennessee Line off his Leave This Town album are such waltzes. [Would live to see So You Think You Can Dance use one of these for a waltz] Heck I'd learn to waltz just so I could that with my wife0 -
For me its an even more basic issue. My music is on vinyl!!! And yes, I have a fully set up sound sytem and turntable at home. So to be able to listen to what I like I would need to convert it all to digital or buy it again so I stick to the quiet of the water instead.0
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For me its an even more basic issue. My music is on vinyl!!! And yes, I have a fully set up sound sytem and turntable at home. So to be able to listen to what I like I would need to convert it all to digital or buy it again so I stick to the quiet of the water instead.
I haven't owned a turntable in decades. Not a good one anyway. I would record vinyl to cassette on the first play and put the album away. Had a Berwin Research TNE that worked wonders on older albums. Never an audiophile though. And today it wouldn't matter. Above a certain level, audio quality improvements are lost on my ears. Went shooting just once without ear plugs 30 something years ago. Slight ring in my ears ever since0 -
For me its an even more basic issue. My music is on vinyl!!! And yes, I have a fully set up sound sytem and turntable at home. So to be able to listen to what I like I would need to convert it all to digital or buy it again so I stick to the quiet of the water instead.
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I use my underwater ipod all the time, it doesnt get in the way and I feel like I give more energy with the music. One thing I love about swimming is the instant results, I jump in the pool for an hour and 30 min and instantly I see my ams look tighter and the following morning the scale shows proof of my workouts. How long do you swim for?0
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I do have a USB turntable, but have not got round to converting the vinyl yet. I need to take a couple of months off work to be able to do that!!
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I have a sony underwater mp3 player that unfortunately just recently went on the fritz! after a year. So I swim now without, I found the player invaluable to break through barriers of "black line fever" and it helped me face the "neverendingness" of becoming a regular swimmer. I swim 5 times a week and do 2kms/ 40 laps. Sometimes it was only the fact that I could listen to music that got me in the water!
19 months later I can swim regularly because I seem to have broken a barrier and I now view swimming as the normal and am actually a bit out of sorts if I don't do it. Which from a former complete sloth is a little astonishing!
I will get the player fixed but don't mind without it now.0 -
Roaringgael wrote: »I have a sony underwater mp3 player that unfortunately just recently went on the fritz! after a year. So I swim now without, I found the player invaluable to break through barriers of "black line fever" and it helped me face the "neverendingness" of becoming a regular swimmer. I swim 5 times a week and do 2kms/ 40 laps. Sometimes it was only the fact that I could listen to music that got me in the water!
19 months later I can swim regularly because I seem to have broken a barrier and I now view swimming as the normal and am actually a bit out of sorts if I don't do it. Which from a former complete sloth is a little astonishing!
I will get the player fixed but don't mind without it now.
This is so inspirational. I want to be just like you, roaringgael!! Fantastic0 -
Usually the problem is in the ear buds. I like music too, generally listen to Pink Floyd and Jimmy Hendrix. One of my favorite songs is "Free Bird" by Lynard Skinner, the song starts slow and eventually ramps up. Another good group of songs are from "Flo Rida", (Good Feeling and Wild One) most have slower and sprint section in the song.0
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I have a waterproof IPod shuffle and listen to all kinds of music, fast and the slow. It doesn't seem to affect my cadence either way. I put the tunes on and zone out. I am still trying to figure out how to set it so it doesn't shuffle so I can try out swimming to audiobooks.0
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earlnabby, check the position of the switch on it - in the middle is playing straight through, to 1 side is off & to the other is shuffle0
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Anytime :-)0
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Ok, so I don't intentionally listen to music when I swim but I always end up getting songs playing in my head. Maybe it's the musician in me, but my brain automatically starts playing random songs that match my stroke rate- especially when its a particularly long and/or monotonous set. Is that just me or does that happen to anyone else?0
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swimriderun16 wrote: »Ok, so I don't intentionally listen to music when I swim but I always end up getting songs playing in my head. Maybe it's the musician in me, but my brain automatically starts playing random songs that match my stroke rate- especially when its a particularly long and/or monotonous set. Is that just me or does that happen to anyone else?
It's not just you. And given that I teach theatre, it's generally musical theatre songs!0 -
I don't have any underwater music players so no music for me.
I have had the good fortune to swim at the Kinsmen Pool in Edmonton where they hosted the Commonwealth Games in 1978 and because of Synchronized swimming it was Equipped with underwater speakers. So some times when I hit the water the local Synchro teams are practising which means you get a wide variety of music playing, rock, jazz, blues, classical etc.0
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