Something's off--why am I so hungry??
DianaElena76
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I've been doing this 16:8 IF thing for over a month now, and suddenly this week I'm dreaming of lunch alllllll morning. Why am I so hungry? Or do I just think I'm hungry? I can distract myself by drinking more water or coffee or just immersing myself in activity, so I'm still not eating until noon, but I feel hunger on and off all morning. I just bumped up my macros from 5% to 10% to give myself a little more freedom and variety (e.g., sweet potatoes, higher carb vegetables). Could it be because I've increased my carbs by about 10g per day? I've also been pretty tired and gone up on my coffee consumption. (I have 4 cups in the form of BPC around 6am and then black coffee at the office throughout the morning.) Could the coffee be making me feel more hunger? I'm just confused because I was doing SO WELL until recently.
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I don't drink coffee, but I notice any carb increase for me makes me feel hungier the next day. It could also be hormonal. I think it is great that you can resist and stick with your plan. I would not worry about it. I think your hunger and lethargy will subside after you adjust to the carb increase in a day or so.
Isn't 4 cups of coffee a lot?0 -
I wasn't hungry last night, so I skipped dinner. Then my wife came home from a pizza-making class (yeah, it wasn't my idea).
So I say "you know, pizza is like the most addictive food ever invented."
And she says "Really? I wonder what makes it so addictive. Do you think it's the crust?" (I start salivating.)
"The sauce?" (Mmmm, sauce.)
"The cheese?" (Oh, yeah, it could be the CHEESE!)
"Or the toppings?"
At that point, I could chew her arm off.
The moral of my story? The trigger doesn't have to be something you ate. Just the thought of food can make you crazy hungry.
Distract yourself. Or eat something.
(BTW, I didn't eat anything, and I skipped breakfast too.)0 -
I don't drink coffee, but I notice any carb increase for me makes me feel hungier the next day. It could also be hormonal. I think it is great that you can resist and stick with your plan. I would not worry about it. I think your hunger and lethargy will subside after you adjust to the carb increase in a day or so.
Isn't 4 cups of coffee a lot?
Yes, I do notice an increase in hunger for the week before TOM. And yeah, 4 cups is a lot, but that's substantially less than I was drinking a few weeks ago. Believe it or not, 4 cups is what I had gotten myself DOWN to, but now I've crept it back up by adding in coffee at work again.0 -
I wasn't hungry last night, so I skipped dinner. Then my wife came home from a pizza-making class (yeah, it wasn't my idea).
So I say "you know, pizza is like the most addictive food ever invented."
And she says "Really? I wonder what makes it so addictive. Do you think it's the crust?" (I start salivating.)
"The sauce?" (Mmmm, sauce.)
"The cheese?" (Oh, yeah, it could be the CHEESE!)
"Or the toppings?"
At that point, I could chew her arm off.
The moral of my story? The trigger doesn't have to be something you ate. Just the thought of food can make you crazy hungry.
Distract yourself. Or eat something.
(BTW, I didn't eat anything, and I skipped breakfast too.)
Yeah, that's a good point! And this morning I was definitely looking forward to my favorite lunch (tuna salad served inside an avocado). But that doesn't explain the rest of the week. Distraction is a great method, though.0 -
There's no accounting for hunger. A better signal is satiety -- that "no more, I'm done" feeling. After your fast, if you pig out, you were really hungry.0
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I can relate…I upped my carbs after 6 months of VLC <30…and this past week as I try to go back to <30 I find I AM hungry even after 1500 calories….I can't see any TV ads for hot suryp dripping off fluffy pancakes ( see? even typing it causes desire)
but I ended up having 2 hard boiled eggs an hour apart, then just went to bed…I was happy I resisted making a fatbomb…but told myself these CRAVINGS are because you had too many carbs for 3 weeks..now, just to stick to VLC and they should subsume.
Even turned off a program I taped on the "History of Breakfast" WATCHING all that food…too much stimulation! ha0 -
There's no accounting for hunger. A better signal is satiety -- that "no more, I'm done" feeling. After your fast, if you pig out, you were really hungry.
Well I try to pig out because I've felt hungry for a while before I break my fast, but I feel stuffed even more quickly now, so I guess that hunger is just nonsense?0 -
KETOGENICGURL wrote: »I can relate…I upped my carbs after 6 months of VLC <30…and this past week as I try to go back to <30 I find I AM hungry even after 1500 calories….I can't see any TV ads for hot suryp dripping off fluffy pancakes ( see? even typing it causes desire)
but I ended up having 2 hard boiled eggs an hour apart, then just went to bed…I was happy I resisted making a fatbomb…but told myself these CRAVINGS are because you had too many carbs for 3 weeks..now, just to stick to VLC and they should subsume.
Even turned off a program I taped on the "History of Breakfast" WATCHING all that food…too much stimulation! ha
This is what I'm afraid of, that increasing my carbs has caused my body to want MORE.
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Did I read that right? 4 cups of BPC coffee in the morning? That'd be my whole day's calories. I'm going to say upping your carbs has probably caused the hunger. If I go over 20g a day I don't get the benefits of Keto.0
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I'm also going to go with the upping the carbs theory. but I'm going to add that IMO it's also more likely the KIND of carbs you added. You mentioned sweet potatoes and higher carb veggies. I think these are your culprits. I know everybody is different but as an example: I've finally realized how sensitive my body is and how delayed the reaction can be.
I had some sugar free chocolate one day. A friend gave me a few bites of her bar. No biggie right? Then, the next day, after drinking my coffee black for almost a year, I suddenly decided it was absolutely necessary to add cream. I had cream in my coffee for 3 days. Then, while I was out, I suddenly had the urge to buy more sugar free chocolate, then I needed more coffee and was sneaking one or two bites of the kids cereal and before you know it my hunger was raging out of control 24/7.
this has happened to me about 3 times now and I finally realize that it's not so much that I've increased the carbs because even with the extra carbs I was even still in ketosis, it just the KIND of carbs. I can't do tomatoes or carrots. No artificial sweetners AT ALL and no grain products, no matter how small. Oddly enough one or two bites stolen from the Beasts ice cream from the store that contain white sugar doesn't set me off.
So if you have a diary, I'd go back even a week or two and see what new foods you've started to eat and maybe cut them out again until you feel good. Then add them in one at a time but only one each week kind of thing to see if it is one of those that is causing the increased hunger.
After low carb and IF your body is very sensitive. No, I think that's stateted wrong. I think it was always that way it's just that we've removed all the stuff muddying up the signals. so we're much more in tune with the little changes. the language is more clear.
Anyway, for what it's worth that's my experience. Hope it helps.0 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »Did I read that right? 4 cups of BPC coffee in the morning? That'd be my whole day's calories. I'm going to say upping your carbs has probably caused the hunger. If I go over 20g a day I don't get the benefits of Keto.
You read that right, but what I mean is 4 cups of coffee mixed with a tablespoon of butter and 1 or 2 tablespoons of coconut oil. So yes, 4 cups of BPC, but only as much butter and coconut oil and many people have in 1 cup of coffee.
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I'm also going to go with the upping the carbs theory. but I'm going to add that IMO it's also more likely the KIND of carbs you added. You mentioned sweet potatoes and higher carb veggies. I think these are your culprits. I know everybody is different but as an example: I've finally realized how sensitive my body is and how delayed the reaction can be.
I had some sugar free chocolate one day. A friend gave me a few bites of her bar. No biggie right? Then, the next day, after drinking my coffee black for almost a year, I suddenly decided it was absolutely necessary to add cream. I had cream in my coffee for 3 days. Then, while I was out, I suddenly had the urge to buy more sugar free chocolate, then I needed more coffee and was sneaking one or two bites of the kids cereal and before you know it my hunger was raging out of control 24/7.
this has happened to me about 3 times now and I finally realize that it's not so much that I've increased the carbs because even with the extra carbs I was even still in ketosis, it just the KIND of carbs. I can't do tomatoes or carrots. No artificial sweetners AT ALL and no grain products, no matter how small. Oddly enough one or two bites stolen from the Beasts ice cream from the store that contain white sugar doesn't set me off.
So if you have a diary, I'd go back even a week or two and see what new foods you've started to eat and maybe cut them out again until you feel good. Then add them in one at a time but only one each week kind of thing to see if it is one of those that is causing the increased hunger.
After low carb and IF your body is very sensitive. No, I think that's stateted wrong. I think it was always that way it's just that we've removed all the stuff muddying up the signals. so we're much more in tune with the little changes. the language is more clear.
Anyway, for what it's worth that's my experience. Hope it helps.
Thank you for this. I think the things I listed are really the only things I've added. But I'll look at my diary, because what you are saying sounds like what I am in the midst of here.0
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