It is the way they are marketed that concerns me more than the product. Getting food from a doctor's office I guess would be better than McDonald's. I guess it is the mark ups that get me.

I think we all know how I feel about stuff like this, but let's put that aside for the moment. What benefits are you supposed to be getting from taking this and what ingredients are supposed to be providing those benefits?

I've looked through the ingredient lists and what they supposedly included each one for, and I can't quite tell exactly what they'd really provide someone who is eating a balanced low-carb diet. For $1.40-$1.60 a serving, can you prove to me that this product has any significant benefit above and beyond a multivitamin (which has marginal benefits to begin with)? More importantly, if you could identify exactly what the purpose of taking this is, could you prove to me that this product has any significant benefit beyond taking that specific vitamin or nutrient in its direct form?

My aunt pushes anti-oxidants, supplements, and vitamins all the time. She's done it for years. But, the claims are all over the place (mostly the avoid lawsuits from being too specific) and nothing concrete ever seems to come from taking them.

Well, for probiotics, I would probably stick with full fat yogurt. It will have more carbs than this powder, yeah I know (carbs==evil) but it's also got fat, vitamins, and protein that will benefit things. The worst part about full fat yogurt is finding it at the grocery store.

I'm not sold on antioxidants as much as I am sold on avoiding those things which cause inflammation and problems to begin with.

But, in your situation, I would probably just add the yogurt and some liver into my diet. That covers just about all of those things. Except possibly the fish oil and vitamin C. I tend to lean towards real foods as solutions and not processed supplements. That's just my own opinion, of course. And, there's no reason you wouldn't choose to simplify things by buying the supplements and just taking those instead.

sweetteadrinker2 wrote: »

I make my own full fat yogurt, from goats milk, about 6 carbs per cup and super simple. How do you cook liver? I've only ever boiled chicken livers for the dogs food, and that doesn't look at all appetizing.

I've never had goat's milk yogurt, but I can imagine it being awesome.

Chicken livers are great fried. Same with beef liver. I like mine fried in bacon fat (but any fat really works) and with a little onion. Liver is definitely an acquired taste, but not because it has a "bad" taste. It's just different and most people get freaked out because of what it is. I was fortunate to have a mother that loved liver (of all animals) and fed it to me when I was a kid. So, I have a hard time understanding why people don't love it. My wife is disgusted when I buy liverwurst (which is a great start if you don't want to try cooking it yourself) or fresh liver.

I've only boiled liver when I planned on making a pate. But, frying is the way to go for real awesomeness.

Sweettea..I have to agree with Mr. Goat on this one… as a Plant based LCHF gurl I am getting REAL veggies in my smoothies with kale/spinach, etc added to hempseed protein in almond milk. so normal nutrients from real food

If I HAD to add iron etc I would buy quality liver and have it weekly, fried with onions as it seems the most palatable that way. ( it really isn't bad at all try it once)

ONE BRAND of FF yog is White Mountain. $8 lg qt glass jar..worth it..Bulgarian style….…Stonyfield out of MA is not as tasty and your goat's FF yog is the best option! worth the carbs.

so many studies have proved NONE of supplement will do a heck of a lot…some $$ brands don't even have the right dose, some cheap ones work great-- melatonin is one you can buy cheap it seems)…as example a recent snafu with Vitd3 showed the poor lady was getting 50,000 iu a DAY,,vs a week..so totally overdosing on it..and 50,000 is only used briefly to get you back to some 'normal'..so you can take maybe 2,00-6000 a day
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what I have noticed over last 5 years is BIG regrowth in " whole foods in a capsule" in the 90s this was big..if you were fat the MLM sellers approached you in public..asking you to buy their capsules..talking on and on about REAL WHOLE foods..than handing you a $$ jar of capsules to make it "easy" to get these veggies.

( I imagine it as a good marketing ply as these buyers DIDN'T eat right, and would never cook daily)

Texas super foods with "50 vine ripened fruits & vege" is the modern version it is ALL profit based for the seller.

The only people I see needing this are traveling sales folks eating in restaurants a lot..or homebound unable to cook easily… then maybe...

NOW Jonathan Bailor of SANE solution (he used to be a LOGICAL LCHF guy) is selling "garden in a glass" yes.. . a 2 lb BAG of powdered 50 veggie/fruits for $3-5 a SERVING daily… they want you to go from 1/3 c to a full cup a day of this pricy stuff… he soured me totally with this selling approach..what happened to filling your plate with 50% REAL veggie? NO…..cause most Americans won't bother eat that. I suffered thru his infomercial online…so sad..he built an empire, now has to pay a bunch of people..and NO PROFIT in telling you to buy real veggie with 50% of your plate, right?