LC Diet published UK Sept 15
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http://www.diabesityinpractice.co.uk/media/content/_master/4311/files/pdf/dip4-3-102-8.pdf
Interesting paper recently published. LC, T2D, carried out in GP practice in UK over 3years now published.
Thought this should be shared
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Is glucose central to the three great epidemics; obesity, diabetes, and non-alcoholic fatty liver?
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/is-glucose-central-to-the-three-great-epidemics-obesity-diabetes-and-non-alcoholic-fatty-liver.84887/
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Thank you for posting these! Tides are sloooowly turning! I'm hoping more mainstream soon!0
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Thank you for posting these! Tides are sloooowly turning! I'm hoping more mainstream soon!
I think it's going to be a looonnngggg slow process to turn the tide. I walked into Aldi's and Walmart on Sunday and walked by aisles and rows of carbs and carbs and carbs. So many products touting how healthy they are and talking about slow energy release. The corporate investment in SAD is incalculable and they will not give up without a fight.
I guess that makes us rebels! lol0 -
Thank you for posting these! Tides are sloooowly turning! I'm hoping more mainstream soon!
I think it's going to be a looonnngggg slow process to turn the tide. I walked into Aldi's and Walmart on Sunday and walked by aisles and rows of carbs and carbs and carbs. So many products touting how healthy they are and talking about slow energy release. The corporate investment in SAD is incalculable and they will not give up without a fight.
I guess that makes us rebels! lol
I noticed this in Lowes Foods last week, I swear I walked down one aisle and there was NOTHING but carbs! In my mind I have jokingly named it the "carb aisle" LOL0 -
Thank you for posting these! Tides are sloooowly turning! I'm hoping more mainstream soon!
I think it's going to be a looonnngggg slow process to turn the tide. I walked into Aldi's and Walmart on Sunday and walked by aisles and rows of carbs and carbs and carbs. So many products touting how healthy they are and talking about slow energy release. The corporate investment in SAD is incalculable and they will not give up without a fight.
I guess that makes us rebels! lol
Do we even have the resources to be a low carb nation (USA here, but applies worldwide as well)? From everything I've read the answer right now is no.
Skimmed the first article, found this very encouraging:
Sixty-seven out of 69 people
who agreed to follow the low-CHO intervention
adhered fully to the plan for a minimum of
3 months. Thus, a 97% compliance rate was achieved.
Of the two participants who did not adhere to the
low-CHO diet, one female participant terminated
the diet after 2 weeks due to lethargy. The second
female participant could not tolerate the diet so
adapted the plan to eliminate sucrose and continued
to consume small quantities of bread. She attended
the low-carb evenings and clinic appointments and
later lost 17 kg over 23 months
One quit due to not getting past low carb flu, the other still modified the diet and succeeded. Nice!0 -
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Thanks.
It may take a generation of doctors and patients to die off but I expect the NO FAT diet will be on the decline for the next 50 years.
It is going to come down to $$$. Governments have taken on the healthcare cost in major nations. These same governments will FAIL unless they get a way to prevent/reverse the health damages due to living a passive life on mainly carbs.
There will be a new world order I expect but I do not know if it will be better or worse.
We can assume FAT people will be denied services on grounds of OBESITY. My left brain can even understand that movement to a point but I do understand people do NOT plan to get FAT.
Not wanting to die in a nursing home weighing 400 pounds with both feet sawed off and knowing nothing due to Alzheimer's does motivate me to make LCHF work.
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Do we even have the resources to be a low carb nation (USA here, but applies worldwide as well)? From everything I've read the answer right now is no.
From what I've been reading from paleo farmers such as Joel Salatin, it may not be as impossible as it seems. Being fat-adapted naturally lends itself to a decrease in portion sizes. An increase in hobby chicken farms can provide more eggs and chicken meat, especially if suburban and urban regulations would relax. Unused urban spaces, such as old, empty manufacturing plants can be re-purposed into large hot houses, growing hydroponic veggies, herbs, mushrooms, berries and fish. We can increase nut production. We can explore other food sources, such as cricket meal (high protein, low carb). Pushing militant vegan agenda is not as necessary to the survival of humans as they seem to think.0 -
The knowledge base is declining when it comes to feeding ourselves. The quality of mass produced foods is declining. The interest in health is declining in the general population. Family wealth/income on average is declining.
Have we finally reached a tipping point?0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »The knowledge base is declining when it comes to feeding ourselves. The quality of mass produced foods is declining. The interest in health is declining in the general population. Family wealth/income on average is declining.
Have we finally reached a tipping point?
I don't think it's declining, I believe it's on the upswing? I might be wrong (after all, a circle of friends is a self-selecting group), but more people I know are becoming way more conscious of their diets, grow herbs/veggies/chickens, try to spend more time outside and less in front of the screen, and are more leery of medication.0 -
@Lillith32 do see that in some places but in western KY at social events (yes Walmart falls under social events in these parts) there are many that weight 2x of ideal weight. At church potlucks the dessert table looks like we must worship the gods of SUGAR and WHEAT. I never noticed this when what having 5000 calorie meals myself.
Many have just given up it seems and have kids that are 2x in weight. Now this is not all by any means but more than it was 50 years ago at the same church when I was a teenager. I will eat 3 eggs and 3 strips of bacon with coffee with HWC at the local Huddle House before I leave for home/church because every Wed there is food but not like for special events. The churches in the city may be different. My circle of friends are not self selecting on eating mindsets but I have a few asking about my weight loss and way of eating. There are a few others with medical training but are not into anything to improve health that much but we did just build a gym (a 40x60 pole barn on a concrete slab) so maybe some will want to start a group interested in moving.
When you look at the Red Fat states in the USA on some maps they start with us and go east and south. Fried chicken is required at any pot luck.
Weight seems to be inversely related to income and being health minded. Few are accidently a healthy weight any more in these parts.0 -
@GaleHawkins, I am having the exact opposite experience. Most of the people in my group went paleo, vegetarian or vegan. Tables in my place of worship have now a gluten free, paleo and a vegan option, and those usually go before the 'normal' food. Three of my friends are growing chickens. A sizable number order grass-fed beef through local farmers. Even my friends that are overweight are trying to stick to some sort of a whole food diet. Now, granted, I think a lot of them are dead wrong about food, but they are more conscious of what they eat and how much they move. My friends and family are joining crossfit gyms, taking up running, starting their gardens, and in the process, slimming down. Granted, not all of them, I still have a few in the "too broke/too busy/just don't care" category, but the general trend seems to be going in the right direction. Now, granted, I'm from Florida by the way of Chicago, and most of my friends are military/fitness nerds of all stripes/urbanites. But when my mother, who never cared much about her diet, is telling me how grains are bad to eat, but butter may be good... there is hope in this world.
I think the world is slowly changing, which must be hard for people from traditional, farming backgrounds, with eons of farming tradition behind them. After all, their way of life worked for so long, how could it be wrong? But I think that those same people will find the ideas of self sufficiency, health, real food, and freedom from big business and government dictates very attractive once they think about it. The ideas just have to make it there. Country boys (and girls) will survive.0 -
@Lillith32 that is encouraging from your area. Locally some would eat more but they rush outside to smoke.
I like what you do at your place of worship with different tables for better options. My 18 year old daughter is reading Wheat Belly Total Health and I think she will be cooking some of those dishes and desserts soon. She tries to make sure I at least have celery which I now eat like candy because it is so sweet tasting now.
Maybe I will work to be a non nagging example of 1 for 100 other people. Actually many have come a long way health wise because they have given up ways that were very harmful to themselves and family. In that sense they are making progress. Last year I lost three local guys at the ages of 58, 62 and 69 and it was 90% eating lifestyle related.
50 years ago the area was very poor but we ate well from what was grown. Gardens were huge and we had hog kill days, etc. Now the main food source is processed carbs and the meats some from fast food places.
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@GaleHawkins the whole different food at the place of worship thing is actually not my doing - there are a few celiac folks, a vegetarian couple and a vegan, so they try to accommodate them.
It's sad to hear about communities with these problems, and I think yours is the norm rather than an exception. But as I said, the ideas are slowly but surely making their way even to the rural areas, and I think the local folks will take to them if they are framed right. And if they don't, well... Honestly, I'm to the point where I think it's a "survival of the fittest" issue - if you have the knowledge, and continue to eat crappy carbage, you pretty much knowingly dig your own grave with a fork.0 -
So true about digging one's own grave with a fork. I read where more and more people on MFP forums are trying to eat for better Total Health. This is encouraging. My way of eating improved just by starting to think daily about total health vs. 'losing weight'.0
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I loved the weight loss aspect of this WOE, but I love the 'side effects', like appetite regulation, mental clarity, lowering inflammation, etc, a whole lot more. If I stay in ketosis, my horrible migraine headaches go away, and joint pain minimizes. I can run easier and longer. I feel better, have more energy, and am more mentally stable. That's a whole lot more reasons to continue with this WOE than just weight loss.0
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