Supermarket / Store Sadness

GillianLF
GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
Am I the only one who finds supermarket shopping depressing? Every shelf is full of processed crap full of bad stuff that really should not be consumed. And yet to buy any of the "clean" foods I have to go to the specialist isle where I'm paying over twice the price for unsweetened nut milks, bread, vegetable crisps.

I try so hard to cook as much of my food from scratch but I dont always have the time. I get so frustrated that a clean eating pasta sauce will cost me 3 times the price of the stuff thats filled with sugar and salt.

I found an organic supermarket near my college but again its so expensive. I guess I just have to keep trying where I can. Sometimes I wish people were more food aware as its the consumer that drives what the shops sell.
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  • TrickyDisco
    TrickyDisco Posts: 2,869 Member
    I try to steer clear of the processed junk and buy healthy vegan options instead but am on a budget so choose things like value brand soya milk (65p a litre), Hovis wholemeal bread at 75p, fruit and veg I choose really carefully as sometimes packaged stuff is cheaper than loose, I buy frozen berries and spinach as cheaper than fresh but still nutritious. I do buy some processed veggie frozen stuff for convenience though but only when it's on offer. Nuts can be dearer but a big pack works out less per kg than smaller packs, lentils and pulses sometimes better tinned than dried as more convenient (saves on cooking). Crisps I don't bother with as they're poor value but Sainsburys value corn tortillas are nice at about 50p for a large bag. Pasta sauce takes only a few minutes to make with some chopped tinned tomatoes, tomato puree and seasoning, can thicken the sauce with a little cornflour if needed. So true the food industry is consumer driven though.
  • Slightly different tangent..... I was snooping through some friends diaries, for inspiration lol. I couldn't help but notice that for e.g dinner is made of 3 things - meat, sauce from a packet, noodles ewwww. My diary annoys me because generally dinner is made from a minimum of 7 ingredients - generally 5 of them being veges and I was thinking Doesn't anybody friggen cook!
    Sorry, I just had to get that out....
    I generally just do the outside perimeter of the aisles when I do the shopping, except I get fruit n veg elsewhere. Are you able to bulk buy with a group of friends?
  • GillianLF
    GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
    @TrickyDisco (love the name) I do use frozen spinach and fruit in my smoothies but might start using more frozen veg when cooking. I'm all on for tinned beans and pulses! And thanks for reminding me about the pasta sauce, you're so right. I even have cornflour in the kitchen so will try it that way. :)

    @amelialoveshersnacks I totally agree! People dont seem to cook so much anymore. I used 7 ingredients in my lunch yesterday.
    I love the idea of bulk buying fruit and veg with people. Something I had never thought of before! Thanks.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    There is no " healthy magic " in the number of ingredients we use when cooking. I can easily eat a steamed sweet potato with plain home made Greek yogurt as well as a vegetable curry with brown rice that has 22 ingredients. Health wise none of the two is better than the other.
  • @Ang108 22 ingredients... Now that's a diary I wouldn't mind mind looking at lol.

    I also bulk buy nuts with friends, otherwise I could not justify the cost.
  • kimberwolf71
    kimberwolf71 Posts: 470 Member
    The cost differences are entirely unfair and frustrating for sure! For many items, I try to do batch cooking as much as possible especially if some of the ingredients are on sale or in season and am thankful I have the freezer space (think homemade pasta sauce, soups, stews, chilis, baking). For me personally, I don't use enough condiments to make that effort worthwhile (ketchup, mustard, etc) nor am I that strict.

    The number of ingredients in my diary is often low because I input most of my regular recipes into MFP... so you don't see the 12-15 ingredients, for example you just see Zucchini Beef & Sausage Lasagna, but sometimes life needs you to just keep it simple :-)
  • AmyLizK
    AmyLizK Posts: 4 Member
    I feel like supermarkets are sad for similar reasons - they're just too damn big - Americans suffer from too many choices, seriously, it's a thing.
  • Azuriaz
    Azuriaz Posts: 785 Member
    Tried to find heavy whipping cream yesterday. First store I wasn't surprised it had carrageenan in it. But at Earth Fare? Really? Finally had to settle for regular whipping cream.
  • MaryPerry437
    MaryPerry437 Posts: 2 Member
    Slightly different tangent..... I was snooping through some friends diaries, for inspiration lol. I couldn't help but notice that for e.g dinner is made of 3 things - meat, sauce from a packet, noodles ewwww. My diary annoys me because generally dinner is made from a minimum of 7 ingredients - generally 5 of them being veges and I was thinking Doesn't anybody friggen cook!
    Sorry, I just had to get that out....
    I generally just do the outside perimeter of the aisles when I do the shopping, except I get fruit n veg elsewhere. Are you able to bulk buy with a group of friends?

  • MaryPerry437
    MaryPerry437 Posts: 2 Member
    Sometimes I find myself asking why don't they offer just plain chicken and plain vegetables in these packaged middle isles? I work all day and would love to come home and pop something frozen in the microwave but it all has additives; even the chicken. Yes, I would cook but isn't it nice to have some one chop up that chicken for you without putting soybean oil in it or barbecue spices? Just chop the chicken and package it! I cooked all day Saturday and packaged my five vegetables and froze them myself so now I can take them out on work days and have a home cooked, healthy meal and not have to stay up past my bed time. But I would rather go to the park on Saturdays, wouldn't you?
  • amflautist
    amflautist Posts: 941 Member
    I live in a college community. My husband is a professor. My daughter just graduated -- and she did all her own cooking in the little kitchen in her dorm. This is my advice. Stay out of those expensive health food stores. They even shock me!!! Shop in the produce sections and in the frozen foods sections. Frozen vegetables are VERY clean, VERY fresh and full of vitamins (because they are packaged when they are ripe). You don't need to buy only organic produce. A lot of nonorganic produce is just as healthy as organic. If you want to buy some things organic, let Consumer Reports assist you. They have tested the pesticide levels on supermarket produce - the produce from all over the world that we see in our regular markets. Consumer Reports says the five fruits you should always buy organic to avoid pesticides are peaches, tangerines, nectarines, strawberries, and cranberries. The five vegetables are green beans, bell and hot peppers, sweet potatoes, and carrots.

    If you want to read the full report, and see the full guide, go here http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/natural-health/pesticides/index.htm

    When my kids were small, I could not afford organic anything! Or even boxed or canned anything. I bought the regular produce and cooked it. Kids grew up VERY healthy, including one who now has 3 Olympic medals. Many of her teammates were vegetarians and vegans. They did not buy organic produce either - none of them could afford it because they were paying their own room and board while working with the Olympic team. (Many US Olympic teams work this way. In the minor sports, athletes do not get funding - and they have to pay for their own room and board). Just know that you can have a VERY healthy body by eating real food.
  • Sometimes I find myself asking why don't they offer just plain chicken and plain vegetables in these packaged middle isles? I work all day and would love to come home and pop something frozen in the microwave but it all has additives; even the chicken. Yes, I would cook but isn't it nice to have some one chop up that chicken for you without putting soybean oil in it or barbecue spices? Just chop the chicken and package it! I cooked all day Saturday and packaged my five vegetables and froze them myself so now I can take them out on work days and have a home cooked, healthy meal and not have to stay up past my bed time. But I would rather go to the park on Saturdays, wouldn't you?

    I'm guessing this is aimed at me...
    I tend to do 20 minute dinners (includes prep) during the week as I work arvo shifts. I then do a months worth of freezer meals one weekend a month. Which is more for when I don't want to cook during the week.
    I didn't think my generalized statement would hit a few nerves lol.
    You do you and I'll do me
  • Notreadytoquit
    Notreadytoquit Posts: 234 Member
    lol @amelialoveshersnacks. When I input my recipes sometimes I have 15+ ingredients. I just keep going and adding flavor until it is delicious or I wear out.

    Sidelined from my business by lyme, my favorite supermarket which can be demolition derby offered online shopping. Under pressure they are expanding their line of organics. I grab their flyer, fill up my cart, and once a month pickup my order and visit the orchard up the road for fruit. Everything I can't get there I order from vitacost.com and it gets shipped to my house.

    We grow a lot of our vegetables, some fruit, and chestnuts are our most cherished crop. We have chickens and quail, so have some sort of fresh eggs available daily and bone stock cooking regularly.

    So glad to have a personal shopper although sometimes I do get curious surprises.
  • GreenHeather2014
    GreenHeather2014 Posts: 74 Member
    Like other folks have recommended, there are options such as buying frozen fruits and veggies to lower your personal costs. Not everyone can afford to buy all-organic, fair-trade, etc. Calories are cheap, it's nutrition that's expensive, so there are tough choices to be made. I cook at home, in bulk, and can/freeze my own. I have bone broth chilling right now. The bones come from an organic butcher, because I found I can taste the difference between local/pasture bones and less expensive bones. That's my biggest rule of thumb; if the organic stuff tasted better, then I'll shell out the extra money. Biggest takers on that point are meats, lettuce, and some fruits (like apples). It's a compromise, and I'd rather buy all-organic, fair-trade, etc., for environmental reasons, but I don't have that kind of money.
  • Notreadytoquit
    Notreadytoquit Posts: 234 Member
    Last week I was researching bone stock and learned that many tested brands, even some organic, contain high levels of lead. You should check it out and see what you think.

    Food is your most important medicine. It's nice to use your health care dollars on nutritious food. Having a degree from an agriculture college I would suggest not buying fruit & vegetables from South America unless certified organic.

    Go to ewg.com and check out the dozen most & least sprayed produce items. It will help you to make good organic produce vs. items at low risk choices and reduce pesticide exposure.
  • GillianLF
    GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
    Talk about buyer beware.

    Is it one big conspiracy to promote unhealthiness so we need to spend more on healthcare?

    I'd definitely rather come home to something quick, easy and convenient. I love cooking but don't have time to cook every day.

    This thread is telling me that the freezer is our best friend. That's kind of sad.
  • wildthingsmom
    wildthingsmom Posts: 26 Member
    I am a huge fan of organic frozen veggies and/or buying bulk (which I KNOW isn't ideal for you.. BUT as soon as something starts to go wilty, put THAT in the freezer. And do a big cook and freeze leftovers (soups and stews are great this time of year) Maybe find a friend to split bulk buying with? I do know that grocery stores tend to cater to their buyers.. So if most in your area aren't willing to spend extra $$ for organic food, the store simply won't carry them. Vs. if they get a lot of requests for items, they WILL start carrying them. What I find more sad than grocery stores not carrying organic and healthy foods is that the majority of people in the country don't CARE. YES Whole Foods is crazy expensive. But even at our "regular" store where there is the option of organic and non-organic, most people don't want to spend the extra $$ for organic. Or cook. Kids come to play at our house and ask what we are having, and when we ask them if they already ate, I swear the answer is pizza 75% of the time.
  • KaraVee77
    KaraVee77 Posts: 4 Member
    Check out vitacost.com !! They have amazing organic foods at great prices. I just purchased organic salsa, hazelnut spread, beef jerky and whole bunch of other things. Plus the order is shipped to your door within days. I even have a coupon code you can use to get your first $10 off. Message me! :)
  • KaraVee77
    KaraVee77 Posts: 4 Member
    Also check out if there are farmers markets in your area. You can get a bunch of locally grown produce for a great deal.
  • GillianLF
    GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
    I'm in Ireland so different shops.

    I go to farmers markets and the Organic Supermarket but it is crazy expensive and very much out of my way. Locally we have a grocery shop and 2 large supermarkets but all they do is promote unhealthy bad fattening food. You never see the organic stuff on special.

    The promotional stands are all fizzy drinks, sugary foods, prepared processed stuff.

    I do pay the extra for whole foods and organic where I can. I figure long term I'm investing in my health. I still find trips to the supermarket depressing. I find a healthy recipe and most of the time they don't have a lot of the ingredients, so another trip to a specialised store is required. It is easier to give in and buy the pizza... but its not worth it.
  • SeriousPC
    SeriousPC Posts: 23 Member
    You're right it sucks but until more and more people start eating healthier its not going to change much.
    I eat out less now so there are definitely savings there and I do the meal prep thing every Sunday, reducing my variety but guaranteeing I won't go off track and I'm using up all the food I just bought. 5 Mason Jar salads in the fridge, 3 dinners in the fridge and 3 in the freezer. I even have the same breakfast each morning...
    It keeps costs low and me on track and I am seeing results! Knowing I can deviate on the weekend a little helps... time will tell.. You're right about investing in your health - hang in there!
    Check out Dani Spies.. she has great recipes without too many ingredients - written or video http://cleananddelicious.com/
  • christch
    christch Posts: 238 Member
    I've just realised from reading through your posts how incredibly spoilt I am living in NZ. We have our own veggie garden and even though it can be a bit of a hassel it is always filled with fresh organic veg. Most of our supermarkets have a reasonable quality of fresh fruit and veg for good price and where we are there are smaller stores that just have fruit and veg. I was blessed to grow up with women who where amazing cooks who made all their own jams and preserves so have learnt how to cook wonderful food from scratch. The only processed food I tend to buy are tinned tomatoes and beans, pasta,rice, breakfast cereals, bread and of course coffee simple because I don't have time to make these things from scratch.
  • GillianLF
    GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
    @christch that sounds like something I aspire to! I did look into starting a vegetable garden. Your lifestyle sounds wonderful. At the moment I do not have the time. So rely on batch cooking and the freezer.

    @SeriousP I've just found Dani on youtube, she's great!
  • christch
    christch Posts: 238 Member
    GillianLF start small with tubs or big pots that you can put herbs or salad greens in. Ones that you can just pick the leaves off are good choices. We are lucky to have a big back yard to be able to put into garden, though my hubby looks worried everytime I get garden books out. Start small and manageable and it only takes a few mins.
  • martabeerich
    martabeerich Posts: 195 Member
    I know a couple so have a vertical garden tower. They have 2. It produces an amazing amount of produce. Just an idea. (Look them up on the Google.)
  • Notreadytoquit
    Notreadytoquit Posts: 234 Member
    So the standard recommendation to shop the perimeter of the grocery store should eliminate most of the processed foods from overwhelming you. Make a list and stick to it dipping into isles without cart to limit temptation.

    We have two grocery stores that carry organic products ... due to demand. I compare products on vitacost and generally get a shipment every month of oils, spices, supplements, chips, chocolate, pretty much everything that won't spoil. I find their prices to be $1-3 cheaper than grocery store per item and up to $4-5 less than health food store. Free shipping & almost always a sale or buy one get one 1/2 off.
  • suzan06
    suzan06 Posts: 218 Member
    It is frustrating and sad that most people are living on the processed junk. Personally I am pretty used to my standard list at the store- I get whatever fresh produce I need, pop through the organic fridge/freezer section to get yogurt, milk, and cheese, then down the Mexican aisle to get corn tortillas (tried making them myself multiple times..... No luck yet!) then the baking aisle if I need staples. On the way out, hit the nuts and sometimes one bag of junk for the kids (pretzels or pirates booty).

    Then everything else is bulk ordered (flours, beans, oatmeal) or from our chickens (eggs).

    But on the odd occasion that I have to hunt something else down- like packets of instant oatmeal for camping- and I venture into the breakfast aisle, I weep for humanity. Let's not even talk about the "juice" aisle.
  • Sharon009
    Sharon009 Posts: 327 Member
    suzan06 wrote: »
    It is frustrating and sad that most people are living on the processed junk. Personally I am pretty used to my standard list at the store- I get whatever fresh produce I need, pop through the organic fridge/freezer section to get yogurt, milk, and cheese, then down the Mexican aisle to get corn tortillas (tried making them myself multiple times..... No luck yet!) then the baking aisle if I need staples. On the way out, hit the nuts and sometimes one bag of junk for the kids (pretzels or pirates booty).

    Then everything else is bulk ordered (flours, beans, oatmeal) or from our chickens (eggs).

    But on the odd occasion that I have to hunt something else down- like packets of instant oatmeal for camping- and I venture into the breakfast aisle, I weep for humanity. Let's not even talk about the "juice" aisle.

    I make my own tortillas and they are awesome. Try 100daysofrealfood.com website. She has recipes for corn and flour tortillas. You just need a tortilla press, I bought mine at Walmart for $12. Heres the flour recipe, she has a corn recipe too.

    http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2010/05/26/recipe-whole-wheat-tortillas/
  • GillianLF
    GillianLF Posts: 410 Member
    @sharon009 thanks for the website recommendation!
  • ndvoice
    ndvoice Posts: 161 Member
    Yes! I purchased $50 in just the produce section this week. And I realized how much more that money would have got me in crappy food. Until healthy food is reasonably priced, America will never overcome the obesity epidemic. Sad indeed.