Hubby gaining weight eating some high fat foods with his carbs
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I was wondering if others have experienced this? My hubby appears to be gaining weight while eating some LCHF foods. He is not eating low carb overall, but I cook LCHF meals for myself with carb sides for him and the kids. Usually veggies with potatoes, rice or noodles.
He likes my LcHF foods, but once it is combined with other foods, it may be too much.
For example, last night there was cheeseburger "pie" for leftovers, and I baked macaroni and cheese for the kids with cooked carrots and peas, and a plate of raw veggies. Hubby doesn't like to eat green (LOL) so he had a large plate of cheeseburger pie and noodles with a few carrots. His plate was about twice as big as mine, and I had more veggies.
Anyway, do you think I am sabotaging him? He has unemployment stress now and as gained 5 lbs in the last few months to 200lbs at almost 6'1", so there are other factors at play. He is a bit heavy mainly in the belly. He looked (really really) good at 175-180.
What do you think? He's an adult and let him do as he will, so don't butt in? Make it harder for him to carb load along with my High fat and calorie dense meals? Provide lower fat alternatives, like I can butter my meat after cooking and not his?
Am I doing him a disservice by fixing high fat meals when I know he eats a lot of starchy carbs?
He likes my LcHF foods, but once it is combined with other foods, it may be too much.
For example, last night there was cheeseburger "pie" for leftovers, and I baked macaroni and cheese for the kids with cooked carrots and peas, and a plate of raw veggies. Hubby doesn't like to eat green (LOL) so he had a large plate of cheeseburger pie and noodles with a few carrots. His plate was about twice as big as mine, and I had more veggies.
Anyway, do you think I am sabotaging him? He has unemployment stress now and as gained 5 lbs in the last few months to 200lbs at almost 6'1", so there are other factors at play. He is a bit heavy mainly in the belly. He looked (really really) good at 175-180.
What do you think? He's an adult and let him do as he will, so don't butt in? Make it harder for him to carb load along with my High fat and calorie dense meals? Provide lower fat alternatives, like I can butter my meat after cooking and not his?
Am I doing him a disservice by fixing high fat meals when I know he eats a lot of starchy carbs?
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Hey that is your call.
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I stress eat, so I can relate.
He's an adult and can make his own decisions. Hopefully it will work itself out when he finds work, but until then you just need to be supportive and encourage him to be healthy. You can provide him with healthier options or if he's home more often, you could try getting him to prepare meals for himself and the kids. He may be more receptive to eating vegetables if he's the one cooking.0 -
just a thought.
.I listened to Dr Bernsteins radio program..this time he described how upset diabetics were who were following his "new" diet..they claimed they were having 'nutrients' taken away..blah blah..
but what he said was we are removing CARBS foods..REPLACING with lots of veggies..and most have NEVER considered veggies..so it seems typical of our SAD and general desires to NOT chose veggies.. we see them as inferior..so possibly when you cook substitute ONLY veggies..make no carb foods? after all it won't hurt him or the kids…
and remember the young guy who wolfed down big cheeseburgers, shakes and fries and claimed it was OK because after all he was getting a lot of fat, so it was all OK0 -
Information is power. If he knows that the meal you served is 500 calories that could lead to a different choice than 1000 calories. Some folk in channel 4 UK series secret eaters used excessive olive oil on their meat and salads (yum) combined it with sweet drinks and had no clue why they were putting on weight. If he is eating carbs he needs to understand CI CO .0
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I've had those same concerns. I have tried to change my cooking so that LCHF one-dish meals like cheeseburger pie (so yummy) is made in a small batch for my work lunches only for example. For family meals I try to focus on individual dishes... meat, veggies, sometimes a side carb for everyone else. I'm lucky that we are all veggie-lovers and SO is starting to sometimes suggest two veggies (i.e., cauli & green beans) instead of a carb (HURRAY). He works away, so I know lots of carbs happen during the week. This is a relatively good compromise because I simply refuse to cook multiple meals so keeping the items more separate helps somewhat.0
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How many grams of carbs do you suspect he's eating everyday?0
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I've struggled with this because my husband is the same. There was a thread on this on reddit/keto and lots of people are in this situation and looking for solutions. You may want to check that out. It's my opinion that you are doing him a disservice by serving both. Fats are high calorie, to serve carbs too...no wonder he's gaining weight! I don't mean to sound like I'm blaming you, because it is his choice, for sure. I solved this at my house by not serving fats at dinner. I do low carb meals (lean meats, double veggies) and eat fats at meals we are apart or as snacks.0
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. LOLGaleHawkins wrote: »Hey that is your call.bluefish86 wrote: »I stress eat, so I can relate.
He's an adult and can make his own decisions. Hopefully it will work itself out when he finds work, but until then you just need to be supportive and encourage him to be healthy. You can provide him with healthier options or if he's home more often, you could try getting him to prepare meals for himself and the kids. He may be more receptive to eating vegetables if he's the one cooking.KETOGENICGURL wrote: »just a thought.
.I listened to Dr Bernsteins radio program..this time he described how upset diabetics were who were following his "new" diet..they claimed they were having 'nutrients' taken away..blah blah..
but what he said was we are removing CARBS foods..REPLACING with lots of veggies..and most have NEVER considered veggies..so it seems typical of our SAD and general desires to NOT chose veggies.. we see them as inferior..so possibly when you cook substitute ONLY veggies..make no carb foods? after all it won't hurt him or the kids…
and remember the young guy who wolfed down big cheeseburgers, shakes and fries and claimed it was OK because after all he was getting a lot of fat, so it was all OK
Replacing carbs with veggies is tough with him. He rarely eats green. Green beans with bacon, or peas smothered in butter are the only green he will eat. Otherwise he will eat some other root veggies like turnips, parsnips, carrots, onions, and yams.... Just not much.
Two out of three of my kids prefer raw veggies so I usually have raw veggies out for them. My son with aspergers won't eat cooked veggies, and another son gags if he has to chew any vegetable or fruit beyond potatoes and banana or apple sauce. Boo. They don't make it easy.0 -
kimberwolf71 wrote: »I've had those same concerns. I have tried to change my cooking so that LCHF one-dish meals like cheeseburger pie (so yummy) is made in a small batch for my work lunches only for example. For family meals I try to focus on individual dishes... meat, veggies, sometimes a side carb for everyone else. I'm lucky that we are all veggie-lovers and SO is starting to sometimes suggest two veggies (i.e., cauli & green beans) instead of a carb (HURRAY). He works away, so I know lots of carbs happen during the week. This is a relatively good compromise because I simply refuse to cook multiple meals so keeping the items more separate helps somewhat.MaggieLoo79 wrote: »I've struggled with this because my husband is the same. There was a thread on this on reddit/keto and lots of people are in this situation and looking for solutions. You may want to check that out. It's my opinion that you are doing him a disservice by serving both. Fats are high calorie, to serve carbs too...no wonder he's gaining weight! I don't mean to sound like I'm blaming you, because it is his choice, for sure. I solved this at my house by not serving fats at dinner. I do low carb meals (lean meats, double veggies) and eat fats at meals we are apart or as snacks.
I probably should make him aware of what he is eating. I don't think he realizes that I am getting a large amount of calories on my salad plate of cheeseburger pie. I could be sabotaging him a bit.... Hmmm0 -
christinev297 wrote: »How many grams of carbs do you suspect he's eating everyday?
I am really not sure. Lets see....
Breakfast is usually 2-3 slices of bacon and 2-3 eggs, or if no eggs, some coconut flour waffles and maple syrup. He usually has a 1/2 cup of evaporated milk in his coffees throughout the morning.
Lunch is often leftovers or a peanut butter sandwich. I think he had oatmeal with raise s and a banana today.
Snacks are often a coconut flour muffin or cheese or meats.
Dinner is meat, a bit of vegetable ( if it is corn or peas, or a nicely done root veggie) - last night was carrots and peas - and usually 1-2 potatoes that are the size of apples. When they are mashed they cover half of a dinner plate.
... He's quite a way from low carb.
Today he was taking about how he is addicted to sugar (his words). How he was craving chocolate today. He seems to be where I was a few years ago.
I know he won't change anything unless he wants to, but I will let him know what he is eating so he can make informed choices. I will try to keep my family meals a little lower fat / lower calorie too.
I am going to go calculate his carbs now...0 -
I ask because I'm pretty much in the same position with my hubby. He eats what I eat but he has the added carbs on top of it!0
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I've been thinking about this for a while. A little worried about the high fat with the carbs the rest of the family eats.
I typically use the bare minimum butter, oil or cheese when cooking for the fam and just add more after plating my food. Like on meat or veg...
When I make them a pasta, rice or starchy side, I will not add any if I don't have to.
My husband and son are really active during baseball season and with pre-season and winter conditioning, so I don't feel like it's as big an issue when they are working that hard so many times a week, but when they are off, I cut back the extra calories from fat for them. My son would benefit from gaining some weight but neither of them has since I started eating this way almost 7 months ago.0 -
Oh wow every post is what is happening in my home. My hubby also has tummy fat & needs to loose weight but is putting on (very slowly he reminds me). He loves that there is cream cheese in the fridge & layers it onto cheese crackers (all 12 of them) for a pre dinner snack & then gets 2nds at dinner time. Then has a half bag of m&ms for supper. He's way addicted to sugar!!! I was addicted but he thinks that nonsense. He thinks my WOE is cooky, is proud of me shedding 59lb but is fighting for his chocolate, white bread, creamy pastas, creamed or fried rice. I've been worrying about his calories & carbs. 2 nights ago I checked the figures for his dinner at a restarant - 2000 calories & 180g carbs - just for dinner.
He will not educate himself, nor monitor what he's eating. He thinks everything is just a weird fad. He makes or buys his own breakfast & lunch but is doing pre-dinner meal & 2 helpings of dinner. The portions I'm giving him are appropriate, good calorie and all good fats or lean. I cannot be responsible for him adding too much portion himself (despite me planning ahead - if I put it in the freezer, he gets it out). Also he buys himself snacks (treats) of chocolate chips lollies bicuits. I love him so much but if I comment he arks up. He's so easy going normally & easy to live with - but this!!!!!
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well, I've learned from being diabetic that eating a lot of carbs triggers your body to generate an insulin spike to try to shuttle sugar from the blood, however, the insulin in the blood also triggers the body to store fat as opposed to burning it. Also, since fat is a calorie dense nutrient, it is easy to eat more than you burn. Eating some fat and protein while consuming carbs will slow down carb digestion in a normal person which is a good thing. It seems that the high fat meals only work well for weight loss, if a high amount of carbs are not present.
So, the easiest approach might be to fix family meals as non-highfat, and add the additional fats (butter, oil, etc.) to your own servings. Ideally, it would be nice if he shared your concerns, or at least took the time to understand them. Is there a chance you could look into a doctor that prescribes to this dietary mindset and have a visit together? Good dietitians are very hard to find (especially for diabetics), but maybe a professional opinion would give a little more support to what you are trying to accomplish.0 -
My hubby is doing exactly the same thing as yours: eating carbs along with the high fat foods.
He's terribly confused about his weight gain, as he thinks he's eating like me. I try to tell him that he isn't eating like me, and that if he continues to eat all of the carbs he's eating, he's going to keep having the insulin spikes that make him feel hungry, which then prompts him to eat more.
Hubby does the bulk of the grocery shopping and cooking (he was a bachelor until he was 36, and old habits die hard). At this point, I'm just hoping that he doesn't get overwhelming overweight, and that my results sway him before he reaches that point. He's 5'10" and 190lbs.0 -
Just to provide some balance, I have the same problem with my wife eating my HF foods in addition to her 'normal' stuff. I've tried to explain the danger of this, but she says she wants to try out my diet and see if it will work for her.
Of course, eating all of the good stuff and not ignoring other things makes it seem simple. She is eating like me.... minus not eating like me
She tries to be supportive.... which I love, but then does other things to unintentionally sabotage my efforts. I do enough of that myself
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I think I roughly worked out what he ate the other day. (I put it in my food diary on Friday.) I was out most o the day, and he is out today, so I can't be sure I have this pretty close of not.Your Food Diary For:
Friday, November 27, 2015
Meal 1
President Choice - Free From Naturally Smoked Bacon, 3 pieces
Egg, whole, cooked, fried, 3 large
Coffee - Brewed from grounds, 2 cup (8 fl oz)
Superstore No Name Canada - Evaporated Milk, 4 tbsp (15mL)
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670CAL 11C 55F 34P 0fibre 5 sugar
Meal 2
Superstore No Name Canada - Evaporated Milk, 8 tbsp (15mL)
Coffee - Brewed from grounds, 3 cup (8 fl oz)
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167cal 16C 8F 9P 0fibre 8 sugar
Meal 3
Bob's Red Mill Gluten Free Old Fashioned Rolled Oats - Oatmeal, 0.5 cup
Raisens - Sunmaid, 0.25 cup
Banana - Dole, 1 medium banana (126g)
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430cal 92C 4F 9 P 10fibre 45 sugar
Meal 4
Potato - Potato, 3 medium
Butter - Salted, 1.5 pat (1" sq, 1/3" high)
Peas - Green, frozen, unprepared, 0.25 cup
Carrots, baby, raw, 7 large
Lucerne - Homo Milk 3.25%, 1 cup (250 ml)
Kroger - Ground Beef 93%, 4 oz
Pc - Old White Cheddar Cheese, 3 slice
Mayonaise, 1.5 tbsp
No Name (Superstore) - 14% Sour Cream, 2 tbsp (30mL)
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1,249cal 106C 64F 60P 11fibre 22sugar
Meal 5
Quaker - Harvest Crunch - Original (Canada), 1.0 cup (45g)
Lucerne - Homo Milk 3.25%, 1 cup (250 ml)
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475cal 59C 20F 17P 6 fibre 26 sugar
Totals 2,991cal 283C 151F 128P 27 fibre 105 sugar
Your Daily Goal 1,420cal 18 C 118F 71P 25FIBRE 53 SUGAR
Remaining -1,571 -264 -32 -56 -1 -52
Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Sugar
He may have had an orange or more fruit, or cheese and meats for a snack. I'll ask him later and see.
Anyways, carbs are at about 283g, fats are 151g, and protein was about 128g. Overall calories was 2991 kcal (approx) which may be a bit much since he is sedentary.
You can see he is a starch man. Even if he only had two medium potatoes at meal 4, it is stll a lot. We also had a cheesy macaroni dish with it one night which he loaded up on too, but I'm too lazy to work out the calories and macros. He also likes his harvest crunch granola at bedtime and has a bowl of oatmeal at least half of the days of the week.
Meal 4, the family dinner, was made by me. I can see that may have done him a disservice by giving him cheeseburger pie when I knew he would want potatoes or the macaroni with it. I'm thinking I better make lower fat meals or make him very aware that combining my LCHF meals with higher carbs will not do him any favours.
@Sunny_Bunny_ Like you I wonder about fats for the family, but my boys are still pretty young (13,11, and 8) and none have had a growth spurt or are at all heavy. In fact, I get teased by family that I need to feed them more (usually after they see me deny them some junk food LOL). For now, and probably for the next 20 years, they will probably be fine with their weight. They are active, and both their dad and I were slim and fit in our 20's and early 30's.
@SuesNewImage Yeah, I try not to comment to hubby because I know it won't help. If he did it to me while I was gaining, I would have become defensive so I try not to do it to him. I do present him with short tidbits and sound bites of information fairly often. I know he's thinking about it, and has some interest but not enough to read nutrition books like I enjoy doing. LOL I'll get the inforation into him, it just takes longer.
@norcogrrl LOL Old habits do die hard. Hubby and I married fairly young (he was 28) but he usually ate meat and potatoes or meat and rice. Pasta dinners were considered work and what he fed his girlfriend to impress her/me. (I was totally on board with the LFHC diet advice of the day.)
Thankfully his treat foods are not my treat foods so I don't eat them. I usually don't think to buy them either so that limits him somewhat (I do all of the shopping and cooking).
@wtskinner I'm a prediabetic so I know what you are saying. I've checked Hubby's blood glucose a few times and he is fine. He appears to be nicely insulin sensitive... I'm hoping he passed those genetics to my boys.
I doubt we'll be seeing a dietician. We're uneplowed at the moment, and in Canada, so access is pretty limited. I completely agree that I need to go back to fixing moderate fat meals for the hubby so he isn't eating more than he thinks. If I have a higher fat meal, I'll advise him of it.
@redbeard I think men often have a harder time changing their diet in comparison to their spouse because the woman often does more of the cooking. It's harder to change things if you aren't the one usually doing the cooking.
... I like that: "She is eating like me minus.... not eating like me." LOL0 -
Maybe we can start a group called Carbanon for those of us in a relationship with recalcitrant carb eaters.
We want them to change but they have to want it for themselves.0 -
I was wondering if others have experienced this? My hubby appears to be gaining weight while eating some LCHF foods. He is not eating low carb overall, but I cook LCHF meals for myself with carb sides for him and the kids. Usually veggies with potatoes, rice or noodles.
He likes my LcHF foods, but once it is combined with other foods, it may be too much.
For example, last night there was cheeseburger "pie" for leftovers, and I baked macaroni and cheese for the kids with cooked carrots and peas, and a plate of raw veggies. Hubby doesn't like to eat green (LOL) so he had a large plate of cheeseburger pie and noodles with a few carrots. His plate was about twice as big as mine, and I had more veggies.
Anyway, do you think I am sabotaging him? He has unemployment stress now and as gained 5 lbs in the last few months to 200lbs at almost 6'1", so there are other factors at play. He is a bit heavy mainly in the belly. He looked (really really) good at 175-180.
What do you think? He's an adult and let him do as he will, so don't butt in? Make it harder for him to carb load along with my High fat and calorie dense meals? Provide lower fat alternatives, like I can butter my meat after cooking and not his?
Am I doing him a disservice by fixing high fat meals when I know he eats a lot of starchy carbs?
I think he's a grown man and can (and needs to be) responsible for what he puts in his own mouth. You're his wife, not his mother, and you need to take care of YOU and eat the way that works for you. If he doesn't like greens he can either make something else himself or learn to like greens. The woman doesn't always need to be the sole person in the kitchen! Bottom line: if LCHF works for you, keep doing it. Your husband could always stop eating the carbs and support you. It doesn't need to be, and shouldn't be, you quitting eating this way because he want to also eat carbs in addition to LCHF.
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I was wondering if others have experienced this? My hubby appears to be gaining weight while eating some LCHF foods. He is not eating low carb overall, but I cook LCHF meals for myself with carb sides for him and the kids. Usually veggies with potatoes, rice or noodles.
He likes my LcHF foods, but once it is combined with other foods, it may be too much.
For example, last night there was cheeseburger "pie" for leftovers, and I baked macaroni and cheese for the kids with cooked carrots and peas, and a plate of raw veggies. Hubby doesn't like to eat green (LOL) so he had a large plate of cheeseburger pie and noodles with a few carrots. His plate was about twice as big as mine, and I had more veggies.
Anyway, do you think I am sabotaging him? He has unemployment stress now and as gained 5 lbs in the last few months to 200lbs at almost 6'1", so there are other factors at play. He is a bit heavy mainly in the belly. He looked (really really) good at 175-180.
What do you think? He's an adult and let him do as he will, so don't butt in? Make it harder for him to carb load along with my High fat and calorie dense meals? Provide lower fat alternatives, like I can butter my meat after cooking and not his?
Am I doing him a disservice by fixing high fat meals when I know he eats a lot of starchy carbs?
I think he's a grown man and can (and needs to be) responsible for what he puts in his own mouth. You're his wife, not his mother, and you need to take care of YOU and eat the way that works for you. If he doesn't like greens he can either make something else himself or learn to like greens. The woman doesn't always need to be the sole person in the kitchen! Bottom line: if LCHF works for you, keep doing it. Your husband could always stop eating the carbs and support you. It doesn't need to be, and shouldn't be, you quitting eating this way because he want to also eat carbs in addition to LCHF.
I agree that he is a grown man and responsible for what he eats, but in our situation, we have a system of pretty traditional roles: he works and I am the SAHM who homeschools the kids. Right now he is unemployed, and there is a chance I'll be out working in which case he'll be the one doing more of the house work, cooking, schooling and shopping.
He really is supportive of my dietary needs. I'm a celiac, and so are some of the boys, and he didn't even bat an eye when our house switched to gluten-free. He has been very supportive of my LCHF diet, he just doesn't want to eat that way himself. I am quite happy with the support he's given me. I don't expect that support to include him doing it too. It works for us. It just isn't working very well for his waist line. LOL
We talked about the HF foods with HC. I told him I may be sabotaging his weight by not making letting him know what is really high fat and when he should cut back on carbs. He was very receptive to eating leaner meats so he could still have his carbs. I told him I'll let him know when the meals are quite high fat (like cheeseburger pie) and he can either cut his carbs on those days or really limit the high fat dish. He doesn't want his waist ine to grow anymore, so I think (hope) that us being more aware will help him moderate his foods better.Maybe we can start a group called Carbanon for those of us in a relationship with recalcitrant carb eaters.
We want them to change but they have to want it for themselves.
Carb anon .... LOL
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Many "stay at home" people (Mums, Dads, students, older and retired people, unemployed) have to deal with the insidious challenge of gradually putting on weight. The real enemies here are boredom, social isolation, anxiety, depression and a general lack of purpose in life. It's easy to fall into bad habits and we can end up self-medicating our emotions by overgrazing on snacks or watching too much television. Living within ten feet of a well-stocked fridge doesn't help.
I have been out of a regular "get up, go to work" daily routine for more than five years but have created a new low-temptation food environment for myself and instigated new daily routines to limit feeding times and to get me out and about. Took me a few years, mind you and it's still a work in progress.
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With my hubby, the ONLY thing that ever hit home with him was when I was watching some BBC documentaries about dieting and IF. Since then he has done 2 fasting days a week with me and when I cook dinner now I just cook what I'm having (low carb) add fat to mine and some carbs to his. I have cut his carbs a lot from what they were. Mind you, he is very easy going and not too fussy with his eating. Lucky Me! He has lost around 8 kilos in about 5 months and still enjoys his beer.0
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