Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

I do most of my shopping at Kroger too and what really gets to me are the substance of coupons themselves!! In my little booklet I get coupons for free boxes of crackers and cookies, free potato chips, coupons for all kinds of junk. I usually scan through my app before I go grocery shopping to see if there's any offers to use when I get to the store but it seems these days at any grocery store unless you are buying detergent or zip locks you are out of luck saving money on anything of any value to your health.

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

That's a nice idea. I bet ground nuts would be good in it, too. Ideas....

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

baconslave wrote: »

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

Probably could make it on my own. I saw @DittoDan post how he made his own yogurt recently. But, I'm too lazy for all that! Lol
I saw Kefir comes in a plain, carbs aren't bad but I can't remember what it was. Thinking it might make a yummy "shake" with some HWC or half&half and whatever flavor I felt like adding. My daughter loves the vanilla flavor but their flavored ones are up into the 30's on carb grams due to added sugar.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

baconslave wrote: »

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

Probably could make it on my own. I saw @DittoDan post how he made his own yogurt recently. But, I'm too lazy for all that! Lol
I saw Kefir comes in a plain, carbs aren't bad but I can't remember what it was. Thinking it might make a yummy "shake" with some HWC or half&half and whatever flavor I felt like adding. My daughter loves the vanilla flavor but their flavored ones are up into the 30's on carb grams due to added sugar.

Boo!

I made my own yogurt once. With soymilk for my oldest son. It was such a PITA. I meant the Carbmaster-like "yogurt." Because it isn't yogurt. It's a "dairy blend" with cultures added. The problem with making non-dairy-milk yogurt is that it doesn't thicken unless you add a thickener. And doing that usually adds carbs.

I could make a almond milk kefir-like thing using a yogurt method. Again, sounds like a PITA.
I'll just buy the Carbmaster and keep making my sauerkraut.

baconslave wrote: »

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

baconslave wrote: »

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

Probably could make it on my own. I saw @DittoDan post how he made his own yogurt recently. But, I'm too lazy for all that! Lol
I saw Kefir comes in a plain, carbs aren't bad but I can't remember what it was. Thinking it might make a yummy "shake" with some HWC or half&half and whatever flavor I felt like adding. My daughter loves the vanilla flavor but their flavored ones are up into the 30's on carb grams due to added sugar.

Boo!

I made my own yogurt once. With soymilk for my oldest son. It was such a PITA. I meant the Carbmaster-like "yogurt." Because it isn't yogurt. It's a "dairy blend" with cultures added. The problem with making non-dairy-milk yogurt is that it doesn't thicken unless you add a thickener. And doing that usually adds carbs.

I could make a almond milk kefir-like thing using a yogurt method. Again, sounds like a PITA.
I'll just buy the Carbmaster and keep making my sauerkraut.

Perking up my ears excitedly....homemade sauerkraut!?!?!?! Do spill your method and madness, please, @baconslave ...

baconslave wrote: »

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

baconslave wrote: »

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

Probably could make it on my own. I saw @DittoDan post how he made his own yogurt recently. But, I'm too lazy for all that! Lol
I saw Kefir comes in a plain, carbs aren't bad but I can't remember what it was. Thinking it might make a yummy "shake" with some HWC or half&half and whatever flavor I felt like adding. My daughter loves the vanilla flavor but their flavored ones are up into the 30's on carb grams due to added sugar.

Boo!

I made my own yogurt once. With soymilk for my oldest son. It was such a PITA. I meant the Carbmaster-like "yogurt." Because it isn't yogurt. It's a "dairy blend" with cultures added. The problem with making non-dairy-milk yogurt is that it doesn't thicken unless you add a thickener. And doing that usually adds carbs.

I could make a almond milk kefir-like thing using a yogurt method. Again, sounds like a PITA.
I'll just buy the Carbmaster and keep making my sauerkraut.

Coconut milk will arguably ferment better than almond milk. Almond milk doesn't really have much in the way of sugars (or fats, for that matter, there really isn't all that much to almond milk in general). Coconut milk, on the other hand, has sugars that can be fermented and fat to thicken the mixture.

Kefir and yogurt really aren't that bad. Heat the milk, add the starter, let it sit in a place that's sufficiently warm (a heating pad and towel do wonders for maintaining the heat) for about 8 hours, done. The vast majority of it is pretty hands off.

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

baconslave wrote: »

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

baconslave wrote: »

Dragonwolf wrote: »

Mami1976D wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I can rarely even find plain full fat yogurt at the Kroger(s) where I shop. Maybe they need to read their own article. (I shouldn't complain, though, because they do carry Kerrygold butter, various flour substitutes, and several kinds of coconut oil.)

OMG, I know, right? Even cheese is getting hard to get that isn't "reduced fat!" I don't want reduced fat "cheese" products! I want cheese.

I am a bit fortunate regarding yogurt, though I don't generally buy it since I'm not a yogurt fan without sweetener of some sort, because I have a local dairy that my usual Kroger carries, and they have plain, full-fat yogurt.

But man...anything else? Forget it. Even the selection of "fat free"/"low fat" half and half is starting to outnumber the real stuff. Makes me want to strangle people.

speaking of half&half...it reminds me that I've been out of cream and forced to use a mixture of a couple tbsp of milk and a couple tbsp of almond milk. NOT HAPPY. I used the last up the morning we drove back from SC. That was Wednesday...

That reduced fat cheese is NASTY. It's not cheese. It's frankencheese. I want nothing to do with it. You'd think with a dairy in the region we'd have more products from a dairy in ours. Not so.

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I love the vanilla carbmaster yogurt. It is really good with the coconut flakes in it. I also like to shave some dark chocolate in it. When I'm really feeling crazy, I do both! Lol
I actually haven't had any in months since I've been reducing artificial sweeteners... Kinda miss that stuff

I put cinnamon in mine this morning. I wonder if there is a way to make your own and use stevia to sweeten? Hmmmmm.

Probably could make it on my own. I saw @DittoDan post how he made his own yogurt recently. But, I'm too lazy for all that! Lol
I saw Kefir comes in a plain, carbs aren't bad but I can't remember what it was. Thinking it might make a yummy "shake" with some HWC or half&half and whatever flavor I felt like adding. My daughter loves the vanilla flavor but their flavored ones are up into the 30's on carb grams due to added sugar.

Boo!

I made my own yogurt once. With soymilk for my oldest son. It was such a PITA. I meant the Carbmaster-like "yogurt." Because it isn't yogurt. It's a "dairy blend" with cultures added. The problem with making non-dairy-milk yogurt is that it doesn't thicken unless you add a thickener. And doing that usually adds carbs.

I could make a almond milk kefir-like thing using a yogurt method. Again, sounds like a PITA.
I'll just buy the Carbmaster and keep making my sauerkraut.

Perking up my ears excitedly....homemade sauerkraut!?!?!?! Do spill your method and madness, please, @baconslave ...

Chop cabbage like you would for slaw. Salt to taste, but not too much or it will inhibit bacterial growth. If it tastes too salty, then it is. You can add other spices to it here. I've used fennel, but I prefer it just salted. Place a quarter of your cabbage in the fermenting vessel. Use a potato masher to bruise the cabbage until it releases enough juice to cover it when it's mashed down. Add the next quarter to the vessel, mixing it with the bruised cabbage. Repeat the mashing/bruising until it appears like your first mashing and has a good juice cover. Keep repeating this until the cabbage is all done this way. I generally choose a wider bowl to brew my kraut and set a slightly smaller bowl inside, filled 1/2 to 3/4 of water. This pushes the cabbage down so that it is continually submerged in its juice so that proper fermentation can take place. Place it in a darker room, between 55 and 72 for the best result. Remember, too cold and it won't ferment; Too hot and it will happen a lot faster. Every couple days check on it and vent it as the process gives off gases that can blow a lid off or crack your vessel. You may want to stir it after a week. Depending on how warm it is, it should be ready by 2 weeks, maybe sooner. If you end up with a top-layer of brown or moldy stuff, just spoon it out. The stuff underneath will be perfectly fine for consumption. Once it's ready, you can refrigerate it to stop fermentation. Add it only to foods after they are cooked, otherwise you'll kill all those good bugs you worked so hard to create.


Sometimes it takes longer than 2 weeks or just 1. That is all dependent on how warm the place where you are keeping it. Check it often. Sometimes people seal it. I don't. I just rely on the cabbage juice to keep it covered and the chemistry going. If I don't watch, the level can rise and spill over during fermentation. Which is a mess, but as long as you are paying attention, it can be fixed.

I'm excited to try making sauerkraut!. @baconslave; what do you use for a "vessel"? Does it have to be glass, stoneware, etc.?

ChoiceNotChance wrote: »

I'm excited to try making sauerkraut!. @baconslave; what do you use for a "vessel"? Does it have to be glass, stoneware, etc.?

Either of those two would work. Not plastic definitely. I'll take a pic of what I do when I get home.