Carb blow out - after effects
beccyleigh
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So I've been doing LC properly for 3 weeks & a couple of weeks before that vaguely. lol
Last night I took my son for a treat dinner, his dad & I have split & he is moving out next week so I wanted to give him a nice night, just mummy & son. So we go to an all you can eat multi national food buffet. I knew carbs would be involved & I didn't care about that, what harm is one night in a month I thought!!! haha.
So I had some stir fry noodles with prawns, some mini spring rolls, chow mien & some other carbish side foods. Not a huge blow out & not more food that I would normally have on LC except it was carbs.
10 mins after I started eating I could feel the bloat start, ok I thought, expected, I drank water through the meal & it didn't get any worse. BUT after leaving the restaurant I started to feel exceptionally unwell, very full, bloated & a bit foggy in my brain. So home & more water & bed.
This morning... OMG, I am parched, bloated, my skin is grey, my brain is foggy, I'm STARVING hungry (or so it feels like) & I feel like carp!!
TMI time......... I need to the toilet so bad but nothing is moving in that area so I am chugging more water in the hope of some success.
So the try to get some of these symptoms gone I will water fast today till 2 then have a very light lunch, maybe just some fresh prawns & balsamic & BPChoc tonight to get back into my 18/6 pattern.
I seriously thought I would be ok having just one night of carb excess but how wrong could I be!!
Does anyone else react like this if they go on a carb binge?
Last night I took my son for a treat dinner, his dad & I have split & he is moving out next week so I wanted to give him a nice night, just mummy & son. So we go to an all you can eat multi national food buffet. I knew carbs would be involved & I didn't care about that, what harm is one night in a month I thought!!! haha.
So I had some stir fry noodles with prawns, some mini spring rolls, chow mien & some other carbish side foods. Not a huge blow out & not more food that I would normally have on LC except it was carbs.
10 mins after I started eating I could feel the bloat start, ok I thought, expected, I drank water through the meal & it didn't get any worse. BUT after leaving the restaurant I started to feel exceptionally unwell, very full, bloated & a bit foggy in my brain. So home & more water & bed.
This morning... OMG, I am parched, bloated, my skin is grey, my brain is foggy, I'm STARVING hungry (or so it feels like) & I feel like carp!!
TMI time......... I need to the toilet so bad but nothing is moving in that area so I am chugging more water in the hope of some success.
So the try to get some of these symptoms gone I will water fast today till 2 then have a very light lunch, maybe just some fresh prawns & balsamic & BPChoc tonight to get back into my 18/6 pattern.
I seriously thought I would be ok having just one night of carb excess but how wrong could I be!!
Does anyone else react like this if they go on a carb binge?
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Oh yes! It's the number one thing that stops me from having cheat days. I can't take the suffering. I went through it twice and don't ever want to experience it again. Now if I feel the need to eat more, I keep it LCHF.0
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Grrrr keeps cutting off my posts again.
Hang in there today. Keep those electrolytes up. The body needs more fluids to process the carbs, so it's pulling them from everywhere it can find them.
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I avoid carb blow outs for this very reason!
So sorry you feel so bad! It's awful, but will be a reminder for next time! Plus, you can now see how carbs were affecting your life! Hope it passes quickly! Thank you for letting us know about your experience!
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I hate feeling like "carp"!
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Yes!
I took my daughter to an Asian buffet for her birthday last summer. She loves the place.
I specifically didn't have any noodles and I only had the tiny amount of rice in 2 or 3 small pieces of sushi. Everything else I ate was chicken, shrimp or beef and a little broccoli and green beans. But they all had sauces on them that tasted sweet. So, sugar...
I was sick the whole next day! I'm sure I was still under 100g for the day. Maybe even under 75g but it's just a guess.
I think your water fasting plan is a great idea. Give your belly a break today and flush out your system. Make sure to get your sodium, magnesium and potassium.0 -
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I know what you mean! I had a day--NYE, I think--where we had houseguests and i ended up eating monkey bread and brownies, and having a couple oz of moscato when we toasted. I felt terrible for several days after that. Really bad acid reflux for several days plus bloated, hungry, etc. In a way I was actually glad I did it b/c it made sweets and especially baked goods less appealing! Now if I want a treat, I'd just as soon have a square of dark chocolate since I know that won't make me sick!0
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Interesting, I had a carb binge last weekend (loads of pizza, one of my favourite foods pre-low carb) and have been feeling rubbish all week, now wondering if it's a carb hangover.............0
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The last time I had a carb binge I had a migraine for 3 days straight. I had originally thought I might have maybe 1 cheat day every week or 2, but after that I decided maybe every few months would be better. Plus, not more than 50 g. White carbs (sugar, potatoes, rice, pasta, pizza, pastries) are my weakness. Once I start eating them, I just crave more and more.0
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I had a couple of licks off the spoons and my fingers while baking over the holidays. I didn't suffer the misery you did, just enough discomfort to remind me what one of those chocolate depth bombs would do to me.
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What causes this intense reaction to carb reintroduction? Is it underlying health concerns that particular people have or does any body adapt to not using carbs and overreact? Just curious as I am low carb again after being successfully low carb in the past, then tripping over birthday cake, and well, we know the story. For me the scale shoots up at the sniff of carbs, which has to be some kind of reaction, but am curious as to what.0
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Yes! Problem with carbs is that I can't stop at just one. I'm all or nothing. If I do eat carbs I am super exhausted and crabby.0
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doodleswithpencils wrote: »What causes this intense reaction to carb reintroduction? Is it underlying health concerns that particular people have or does any body adapt to not using carbs and overreact? Just curious as I am low carb again after being successfully low carb in the past, then tripping over birthday cake, and well, we know the story. For me the scale shoots up at the sniff of carbs, which has to be some kind of reaction, but am curious as to what.
The main thing is fluid balance. Just as people quickly lose water weight in the early stages, they quickly gain it back as soon as carbs are reintroduced. BLOAT.
Both the fluid loss and regain can be mitigated somewhat with sodium, but if both help keep you low carb, then maybe they're good things.
There's lots of other stuff going on too. Effects on gut microbes. Changes in concentrations of enzymes and insulin receptors. It's a systemic change in either direction and can require some time to adapt.0 -
doodleswithpencils wrote: »What causes this intense reaction to carb reintroduction? Is it underlying health concerns that particular people have or does any body adapt to not using carbs and overreact? Just curious as I am low carb again after being successfully low carb in the past, then tripping over birthday cake, and well, we know the story. For me the scale shoots up at the sniff of carbs, which has to be some kind of reaction, but am curious as to what.
The main thing is fluid balance. Just as people quickly lose water weight in the early stages, they quickly gain it back as soon as carbs are reintroduced. BLOAT.
Both the fluid loss and regain can be mitigated somewhat with sodium, but if both help keep you low carb, then maybe they're good things.
There's lots of other stuff going on too. Effects on gut microbes. Changes in concentrations of enzymes and insulin receptors. It's a systemic change in either direction and can require some time to adapt.
That's another mention of sodium, and I'd not heard about that before coming to MFP, but I was doing low carb on my own (with lots of reading). Is it sodium that's supposed to help with 'keto flu' type symptoms as well? Just curious about why people also get mood swings with carbs too. I can't eat grains without becoming a dragon, but also seem to do better generally low carb. I haven't really been sure if it's the grains or just being low carb that calms my system.0 -
Yes, 3-5g/d sodium will reduce keto flu symptoms for most people. The word seems to spread slowly, but a lot of people get discouraged with low carb when they try it on their own and have to suffer through the "flu."
The brain effects are interesting, and I'm not sure they're well understood. In terms of sodium, it will increase blood perfusion to the brain, and some people actually experience an anti-depressant effect with just an increase in sodium consumption.
By restricting carbs, the main effect is a change in brain metabolism. It's calming for some people. Some people actually experience a feeling of euphoria. And it even helps with some medical issues (famously epileptic seizures).
A lot of people are sold on the long-term benefits, too. Like a reduction in protein glycation and oxidative stress. It might just be a better normal. 0 -
I had 2 mini pork pies (Marks n Spencers goodness) First pastry since starting WOE. Social party compliance. Then a little pulled pork. Sugary sauce. Again in a first, this was consumed with 2 champagnes and 3 glasses of red wine. That is more alcohol in a single night l than I have consumed in last 4 months combined. Next day not hungry, day after that, ravenous.
I had BPC in morning then double lunch of chicken n prawns n salad. Still hungry. Add a pinch of work stress and "hey presto" one 150g bag of cashews disappeared. Yikes!
I Have my suspicions some of this hungry is due to catch up on my not feeling hungry 2 days ago so natural flow, but first genuine eat the house hungry, (even tempted by husband's crisps!), since starting WOE so not going there again.0 -
Yes, 3-5g/d sodium will reduce keto flu symptoms for most people. The word seems to spread slowly, but a lot of people get discouraged with low carb when they try it on their own and have to suffer through the "flu."
The brain effects are interesting, and I'm not sure they're well understood. In terms of sodium, it will increase blood perfusion to the brain, and some people actually experience an anti-depressant effect with just an increase in sodium consumption.
By restricting carbs, the main effect is a change in brain metabolism. It's calming for some people. Some people actually experience a feeling of euphoria. And it even helps with some medical issues (famously epileptic seizures).
A lot of people are sold on the long-term benefits, too. Like a reduction in protein glycation and oxidative stress. It might just be a better normal.
Carp. In the storm of controversy surrounding low carb, I thought I must be imagining it, but perhaps it's not the grains after all. I'll be experimenting with increasing sodium too, thanks.
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I went overboard during the Christmas holidays with carbs and sweets. Had all of those after effects, plus came down with a nice yeast infection that was feasting on all the sugar apparently. Just not worth it. "Feeling like carp", is a perfectly fine description...... bloated, grey and nasty, lol.0
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I went overboard during the Christmas holidays with carbs and sweets. Had all of those after effects, plus came down with a nice yeast infection that was feasting on all the sugar apparently. Just not worth it. "Feeling like carp", is a perfectly fine description...... bloated, grey and nasty, lol.
Love your carp description
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It's so interesting to hear others experiences & that they are pretty much on par with mine.
It took 2 days for me to get back into the LC swing after my carb blow out on Thursday, Friday I kept dipping into carby things all afternoon so I had a strict LC weekend
& finally today the scale went back to pre carb blow out weight.
So I am back on track but lesson learned, I will be avoiding the carb blow outs in the future.0 -
I too am suffering from having a "free weekend" and regretting it! Wondering how long before I am back in ketosis and feeling ok. One thing is, this is a good lesson and one that I need to remember when faced with temptation..... not worth it!! UGH..........I should be back in ketosis in a few days, yes?0
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Over this past weekend I ate some carbs that I thought would effect me, but so far, so good. On Saturday I ate out at lunch with the fam. I had a bacon cheese burger and I'm pretty certain there was some "filler" in the burger that would have been carby. Unfortunately the online nutrition info for this place doesn't give stats with and without bun (I didn't eat the bun) so it's pretty hard for me to gauge how many carbs were in the patty, bacon and cheese. The total was 59g!!! but most would have been the bun which I never saw. Then on Sunday I had about 2-3 cups of movie theatre popcorn. I made a point of checking by ketostix both last night and this morning and I seem to still be in ketosis. Also, the scale is down .8 this morning so I am not seeing and short-term negative impact of my w/e over indulgence.
Someone on this forum once wrote, "the number on the scale is actually a reflection of what you ate/did two weeks ago, not yesterday." I think that makes a lot of sense so I may still see/feel some negative impact from this past w/e. However, I don't feel particularly unwell, so that's good.0 -
It's funny cause I was thinking the same thing this morning. The last 2 days I too went over board on carbs and have been doing spectacular the last 3 weeks. This morning I felt tired and hungry and very foggy mentally. Not like I have been feeling. I haven't realized till today what a difference it makes!0
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This feeling like crap (or carp as autocorrect likes to put it,lol! ) is wonderful motivation to stick to this woe! I didn't realise how bad the food I ate was making me feel until I changed it!! KCKO!! 0
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I had 3 packs of peanuts during the game last night, and that was the amount I was over my carb/calorie limit. Today I'm battling food cravings big time, and have had a mild headache all day. Not too bad. Although I'm a daily weigher, this week I decided to give it a rest. Starting to feel a little compulsive and anxious. So backing off until I feel ready to step up to the plate again. This doesn't mean I let up on keto, just not giving myself opportunity to stress fanatically over ounces and fluids retention which i know are in play at this moment. Back to it in a few days.0
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Good for you for knowing yourself that well!0
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