Nutritional keto vs keto adaptation

jocelyn1577
jocelyn1577 Posts: 25 Member
edited November 30 in Social Groups
Has anyone else , keto adapted, if so do you have any advice on how to get there ? Or how long this can take , I am looking to fully adapt and my ketone blood is some days .5 in the am but was 2.8 the night before , I'm trying to figure out how to tell when you are full adapted , when you do do ketone blood readings stay consistent
Thank you

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  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    If you eat less than 50 grams of carbs a day, you will become keto adapted, pretty darn quick. You can eat even less if you want to be more keto adapted. I don't know if your blood levels are supposed to be consistent or not. I don't see why they would, since you use more or less energy at various times. Taking your readings first thing in the morning might give you more consistent levels for comparative purposes.
  • jocelyn1577
    jocelyn1577 Posts: 25 Member
    Thank you , I've been at zero to 20 grams of carbs for about 6 weeks now , so I think I might be there , and should probably stop taking my blood ketone readings as it has me chasing perfect numbers & is probably just stressing me out
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    You're in ketosis! Problem solved. Not everyone has a rough transition.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    You are definitely in ketosis. Your body is probably pretty keto adapted but it can take a few months to fully adapt, especially with regards to exercise. I doubt it would be much of a difference for most of us though.

    BTW, I'm another who usually has trace readings on the keto stix. If I eat 30g of carbs in a day ketostix are negative.
  • jocelyn1577
    jocelyn1577 Posts: 25 Member
    Thank you all , for the wisdom , I feel much better chatting with people who have been on this road longer thanks so much
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    You don't need to have consistent numbers. I'm not even sure you could without taking exogenous ketones or making it your job to do it. The only people that need to think about maintaining certain blood ketone levels are people using Keto to control seizures.
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    BTW, I'm another who usually has trace readings on the keto stix. If I eat 30g of carbs in a day ketostix are negative.

    Ketostix don't work like that.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    kirkor wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    BTW, I'm another who usually has trace readings on the keto stix. If I eat 30g of carbs in a day ketostix are negative.

    Ketostix don't work like that.

    They sort of do for me. My FBG goes up and ketostix are negative. Darn nuts and coconut. Even when I eat entirely carnivore for a few days, my ketostix rarely get above small.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    The ketostix show the concentration of acetoacetate in the urine. The concentration can be affected by:
    1. The amount of ketones you're making.
    2. The dilution of your urine

    So, if you're fasting and exercising, it's a safe assumption that you'll register a darker color.
    If you're fasting, exercising and drinking a whole lot of water, you may get a lighter color. Even though you're making the same amount of ketones. They also basically show how many ketones you were making 2 hours ago. Not right now.
    It's mostly in this way that the strips are inaccurate. Or, they can become inaccurate when they are older. THEY EXPIRE 6 MONTHS FROM THE DAY THEY ARE OPENED, no matter what the date on the bottle says. There is a place on my bottle to write in the date you open them. I also think different brands could be more accurate than others. Mine have always been very reliable, but I use the ones we get by prescription for my T1D daughter. They should be available without prescription too though. They are Nipro Diagnostics, True Plus. In case anyone cares. I know people say they are inaccurate all the time, but not in the way that they fail to detect ketones that are actually present. Otherwise that would be a problem for T1D's who's lives depend on figuring out what's going on with themselves when they are sick.
    They can be inaccurate in that they measure a lower concentration than what you are actually making due to the dilution of your urine from drinking a lot of water.
  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    Hmm. Though that when your body gets more efficient at using ketones less of them get secreted in the urine, so some folks register negative on those keto sticks?
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    edited February 2016
    Idk. I've always tested exactly the same since day one. After 9 months, I can pretty much tell you exactly what color that strip is going to be before I use it.
    Anyway, OP was using a blood meter. And is still new so I don't think even if the theory that you spill less as you become more efficient would apply yet.
    Plus, I was just really responding to the idea that @nvmomketo couldn't get a negative reading by consuming 30g carbs. She definitely could. For one, she is very carb sensitive. The presence of insulin would negate her ketone production. And she could be particularly hydrated even and that would also affect it.

    I do these every now and then just out of curiosity.
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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    That's true. I do have insulin resistance and seem pretty carb sensitive so what is true for me may not be true for others.

    I do find I get higher ketostix readings less frequently now than I did 5 months ago. It is not a big difference but I get trace or negative readings often whereas it used to be small and trace readings. I eat slightly fewer carbs now than I did half a year ago so you would think my ketostix readings would have gone the other way.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    @jocelyn1577 I was about six weeks before I got into ketosis and stayed there most of the time. You did well. It is not a race. :) In my case the "hidden" carbs kept tripping me up.
  • jocelyn1577
    jocelyn1577 Posts: 25 Member
    Thanks , I will monitor my foods better this week , thanks everyone for great advice
  • LiftRunRepeat22
    LiftRunRepeat22 Posts: 25 Member
    Lillith32 wrote: »
    Hmm. Though that when your body gets more efficient at using ketones less of them get secreted in the urine, so some folks register negative on those keto sticks?
    I was under this impression too, even if you are dark purple it may indicate you're not using them as efficiently
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