Warning- poop talk! (Sorry)

cenright0
cenright0 Posts: 80 Member
For Warning- poop talk!

Since starting low carb almost two months ago one thing I'm beginning to see as a pattern that must be related to this woe is mild constipation. I go less often and for lack of a better description and/or more formal term I've experienced rabbit pellets for about the entire 2 months. Should I be concerned? Is this common?

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  • cenright0
    cenright0 Posts: 80 Member
    edited April 2016
    I do drink quite a bit of water too!
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    You're eating more nutrient dense food that isn't full of cheap fillers (grains and corn), so there's simply not as much waste to get rid of.
    You're not constipated just for going less often, but if you're having an uncomfortable, heavy or painful feeling in your gut, you might be constipated. Taking magnesium can help that. Plus, magnesium is something almost everyone is deficient on anyway.
  • DorkothyParker
    DorkothyParker Posts: 618 Member
    I have found great joy as well in supplementing magnesium. I take magnesium citrate which I understand is fine but not the "best" maybe?
  • cenright0
    cenright0 Posts: 80 Member
    You're not constipated just for going less often, but if you're having an uncomfortable, heavy or painful feeling in your gut, you might be constipated. Taking magnesium can help that. Plus, magnesium is something almost everyone is deficient on anyway.

    I'm not having any uncomfortableness at all.

    I guess I just thought perhaps something was not right because my stools are so much smaller (again sorry for the rabbit pellet comparison) than what I thought was normal or "ideal" stools.

    I guess it's nothing to worry about. I am supplementing with magnesium also. Thank you!
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Are rabbit pellet poops normal though?? If you want to add bulk, psyllium husk powder works wonderfully for this purpose.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    Is there any benefit in bulking for the purpose of simply creating more poop?
    Honestly, as long as things move, and they are if you're not getting "backed up" and feeling it in your gut, there's no reason to do anything. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I'm just very pedantic about this issue. I would just prefer the undigested food in my system to exit everyday, and not sit in there for days on end....
  • daylitemag
    daylitemag Posts: 604 Member
    @Sunny_Bunny_ I would be grateful for some specific advice. I have had some serious constipation issues since going LCHF. I got some magnesium supplements. They are "Swiss" brand and 250mg capsules. Citrate,oxide is what they say. Any thoughts on when and how much to take? Is this the "right" kind of magnesium? Thanks in advance.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Not sunnybunny, but I've taken magnesium all through out the day before and it never made one bit of difference. The turning point came when I started taking them at night before bed on an empty stomach, works a charm every time.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    edited April 2016
    Magnesium will only create the effect of loostening stools at a dosage that exceeds your body's daily ability to use it for enzymatic processes. How much that is for you will depend on how much your body specifically needs/is deficient.
    My advice, start in the morning. Take one tablet more than your normal dose. If you're not feeling things moving in your gut within 2 hours, take another tablet. Then wait a couple more and if nothing, take another. You can't overdose on magnesium. Your body will get rid of whatever it cannot use through digestion. That's why the amount needed for laxative effect varies so much. You have to take more than your body can use.
    If you find that you need 1000mg to make it happen, I'd be taking more magnesium on a daily basis.
    That's actually how it's recommended to determine your daily needs. To increase the dosage little by little until it gives you loose stools. Then back off the dose just enough to stop the loose stools. Then you know you're supplying all the magnesium your body can use each day.
  • daylitemag
    daylitemag Posts: 604 Member
    Thank you very much! I will start this evening with two capsules before bed.
  • ruffneck813
    ruffneck813 Posts: 98 Member
    I have not had a solid movement since starting this WOE over 2 months ago. I don't have access to magnesium supplementation right now so that's not causing it. I keep thinking it must be the high fat but I see so many others saying they are having the opposite problem.
  • Foamroller
    Foamroller Posts: 1,041 Member
    Try a couple of tablespoons olive oil? More dietary fat helps move stuff along too ;)

    Personally, I like psyllium fiberhusk as well. But we're all different and all that jazz. So YMMV.

    I'm someone prone to constipation. Too much protein does it, especially red meats for some odd reason.
  • SuesNewImage
    SuesNewImage Posts: 743 Member
    From as a kid I have always had bathroom problems. LCHF has established me, but I supplement mag & a natural fibreonly available in Australia. If I'm only LC I'm not comfortable but not constipated. The HF helps me in that department.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    I have not had a solid movement since starting this WOE over 2 months ago. I don't have access to magnesium supplementation right now so that's not causing it. I keep thinking it must be the high fat but I see so many others saying they are having the opposite problem.

    Magnesium wouldn't cause it, but it can be a solution.
    High fat typically helps things move. If unable to use magnesium, taking extra fat is usually the next best thing.
    For me, I had always said that protein in larger amounts (75g or so, still not a whole lot) would give me trouble. But since I'm participating in All Animal April, i have had zero fiber compared to my typical 5-10g and I've never been better in that department. At one time in my life fiver was the answer for me, but not since Keto. Apparently I'm better off with zero fiber.
  • ruffneck813
    ruffneck813 Posts: 98 Member
    edited April 2016
    @Sunny_Bunny_ You misunderstood, I'm not bound up, I'm having loose bowel movements every time for the last 2 months since starting this. That's the problem. It's also why I thought it might be the high fat. I'm not sure what to do about it other than reduce the fat which will also reduce my satiety at the same time.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Foamroller wrote: »
    Try a couple of tablespoons olive oil? More dietary fat helps move stuff along too ;)

    Personally, I like psyllium fiberhusk as well. But we're all different and all that jazz. So YMMV.

    I'm someone prone to constipation. Too much protein does it, especially red meats for some odd reason.

    Ditto. Too much red meat plugs me up (and gives me meat sweats with menopause lol).
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    @Sunny_Bunny_ You misunderstood, I'm not bound up, I'm having loose bowel movements every time for the last 2 months since starting this. That's the problem. It's also why I thought it might be the high fat. I'm not sure what to do about it other than reduce the fat which will also reduce my satiety at the same time.

    Try adding apple cider vinegar (1tsp-1Tbsp, in water) before/with meals, @ruffneck813 . Or try adding some Kombucha or other probiotics. I had crazy loose stools (complete with bile burning and disaster pants situations regularly) at different stages of adaption. I had to stop doing BPTea as a meal, get back to eggs or other real food breakfasts, and add some things for gut health...
  • ruffneck813
    ruffneck813 Posts: 98 Member
    Luckily I'm not having the disaster situations :o or the bile burning. Eggs are pretty much my mainstay (my diary is open). I'm definitely giving your suggestions a try (especially probiotics) once I'm able to get those items. I might be able to get the vinegar here. Thank-you for the suggestions.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    @Sunny_Bunny_ You misunderstood, I'm not bound up, I'm having loose bowel movements every time for the last 2 months since starting this. That's the problem. It's also why I thought it might be the high fat. I'm not sure what to do about it other than reduce the fat which will also reduce my satiety at the same time.

    I didn't read that right.
    Well, then some fiber probably would be a good plan. I assume that's not as difficult to come by.
    A little more veg. Try some celery maybe.
  • DittoDan
    DittoDan Posts: 1,850 Member
    edited April 2016
    Dan's Mantra. If you want to get rid of constipation on Keto, its rather simple. Eat fermented foods, especially sauerkraut and/or fermented pickles. The day you start eating these things ~ is the day constipation ends.

    And I'm NOT talking about pasteurized dead store bought sauerkraut. YOU have to make it yourself. Go to YouTube and follow the instructions, its very easy to do. Besides, it tastes a whole lot better than taking magnesium and its something you can eat forever.

    If you don't like those ferments, there's dozens and dozens of other ones. Just YouTube search:

    How to make fermented

    I hope this helps,
    Dan the Man from Michigan
    Keto / The Recipe Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
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