Magnesium.....how much?

SlimSonic
SlimSonic Posts: 127 Member
edited December 1 in Social Groups
My magnesium tablets have just arrived, Swanson ultra, super strength magnesium citrate 225mg.

How many should I take & when? The bottle says 1 a day....

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    edited April 2016
    The advice I've seen says that when your stools are "comfortably loose" you are at the right dose. I'd start with one a day for 3-4 days, add as needed after that until you reach that state. I personally take 600mg/day but of mag glycinate, so they're not really terribly comparable.

    Oh as far as when! Many people take them at bedtime because magnesium for a lot of folks is calming and helps with falling asleep. I take mine in the morning and at supper because there are some folks who find magnesium to be energizing and I appear to be one of them.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    It depends on if your intention is simply to supply magnesium or if you want to supply all the magnesium your body can use.
    Take 1 a day to keep away cramps and balance electrolytes. If you want to maximize your magnesium to meet all of the possible needs, the advice says I've read says to increase your dosage until you get a digestive response. Meaning, once you've exceeded what your body is able to put to use, it will get expelled and you'll get loose stools in the process. Then back off your dose by 1 or half tablet.
    It's a good idea to break up the dosing into morning and night too. If you're taking more than one anyway.
  • carlsoda
    carlsoda Posts: 3,432 Member
    Wow..thank you Slimzandra...just want I personally needed. I just ran out of my magnesium supplement and I can't get anymore of the particular brand I was buying and now have to start searching for a new form. What caught my attention of the Mag Taurate as well as L-Threonate (alzheimers runs in my family). We'll see what the store shelves have!
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,021 Member
    edited April 2016
    Keep in mind that if:
    You have any medical conditions like thyroid issues or autoimmune dysfunction, you'll need more mag than others.
    If you drink/eat things that leech mag, heavily, like coffee or alcohol, you'll need more mag.
    If you take meds that affect electrolyte balance, like diuretics, you'll need more mag than others.

    Mag binds to ATP (the energy currency of the body.) It's super important.

    I may add that link to the mag article @slimzandra . Thanks.
    Edit: I "Awesome"'d your post. :wink:
  • slimzandra
    slimzandra Posts: 955 Member
    edited April 2016
    Also, we should include what @GaleHawkins offered on his thread about leg cramps and absorption of magnesium.
    ancient-minerals.com/magnesium-sources/absorption

    And what @Sunny_Bunny and Gale mentioned about the Magnesium Miracle by Dr. Carolyn Dean should also be included on any discussion about the importance of magnesium. Very informative video. Big Pharma Scandal. Thanks!

    Here is another chart for increasing Mg via diet.

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  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    I take mag glycinate and absolutely love it compared to the mag citrate. citrate didn't having any calming or relaxing effect on me, unless I take it in the form of natural calm.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    slimzandra wrote: »
    Also, we should include what @GaleHawkins offered on his thread about leg cramps and absorption of magnesium.
    ancient-minerals.com/magnesium-sources/absorption

    And what @Sunny_Bunny and Gale mentioned about the Magnesium Miracle by Dr. Carolyn Dean should also be included on any discussion about the importance of magnesium. Very informative video. Big Pharma Scandal. Thanks!

    Here is another chart for increasing Mg via diet.

    bb52h249ytmp.gif


    @slimzandra thanks so much for your posts in this thread. I did order Dr. Dean's version after reading some of her web info and a couple Youtube videos.

    Clearly my Mag/Pot Aspartate was not an ideal choice. About 3 months ago I started taking Kelp capsules for Iodine. From one of your tables I may be picking up some magnesium from it since that was about the time my legs/feet cramps faded away.

    As I think back over the past 50 years the lack of magnesium may have been a basic issue in my health. 40 years of serious IBS could have only make it and other minerals absorption worse.

    @SlimSonic thanks for starting this thread.
  • slimzandra
    slimzandra Posts: 955 Member
    edited April 2016
    I was also interested in transdermal applications. Like the Epsom salts or topical applications. I was thinking it would be less harsh on bowels, liver, kidneys, but read that the absorption rates are not as good as ingesting supplemental doses and can even cause skin irritation if overdone.

    I think the key is "supplement" and I prefer a change in diet as the first course of action to see what impact on health and well-being prior to just ingesting supplements.

    How about a spinach and kelp base add a scoop of chopped shrimp and crab topped with dried coconut and almond slivers, avocado and cheddar cheese? HAHA. Done!

    One more interesting read from Keto reddit:
    Citrate vs Malatate and various suggested products. https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/41q2ku/magnesium_citrate_versus_magnesium_malatate_which/?

  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    Very good info.
  • hakamruth
    hakamruth Posts: 124 Member
    Thank you @slimzandra for the info. I have been wondering if I was taking the right one. Looks like citrate is good for me, but maybe husband should switch over to the glycinate.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    My LifeExtenstion Boron came in today. It seems to be connected with magnesium levels in some shape or forum I am reading. Arthritis and Lupus are my two initial conditions of interest.
  • carlsoda
    carlsoda Posts: 3,432 Member
    I found Magnesium Taurate at the Vitamin Shoppe and will give it a try. Everything else seemed to be a mixture of good and bad types of Magnesium. I'll start with 1/2 a pill just to play it safe!
  • DorkothyParker
    DorkothyParker Posts: 618 Member
    Honestly, I take 400 mg of magnesium citrate every morning and sometimes 200 at night with zero issues. I love it.
  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    My LifeExtenstion Boron came in today. It seems to be connected with magnesium levels in some shape or forum I am reading. Arthritis and Lupus are my two initial conditions of interest.

    my boyfriend has been taking this http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Way-Calcium-Formula-Tablets/dp/B007RMK3II it has calcium, boron, magnesium, d3, and k2 in it. he said he feels much better when he takes it. I picked it up for him because it had the d3 and k2, the boron and mag were a bonus
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    My LifeExtenstion Boron came in today. It seems to be connected with magnesium levels in some shape or forum I am reading. Arthritis and Lupus are my two initial conditions of interest.

    @GaleHawkins - this is the best reference I've found on the Boron thing. www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Thanks @KnitOrMiss . The Rex Newnham story is very interesting.
    health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?

    @arditarose there was a report that calcium supplements can raise the risk of heart attacks in females but that is all I remember and the wife and I talked about it. Some say we are overloaded on calcium and 80% of us are short on magnesium. Others may have specifics to offer.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?

    @arditarose there was a report that calcium supplements can raise the risk of heart attacks in females but that is all I remember and the wife and I talked about it. Some say we are overloaded on calcium and 80% of us are short on magnesium. Others may have specifics to offer.

    Well I'll be honest...I read the Lyle McDonald Rapid Fat Loss book and although I didn't go as low calories as a PSMF, I used his protocol to at least create and aggressive deficit (for me) after a bulk. The only reason I started taking the magnesium was because the book said to do so, along with calcium. But now it seems like my calcium levels are way about the RDA.
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    edited April 2016
    @arditarose here is a video that goes into some depth about what Gale was talking about - FWIW I STOPPED taking supplemental calcium after watching it...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMSi3qQBRY
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,021 Member
    edited April 2016
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?

    @arditarose there was a report that calcium supplements can raise the risk of heart attacks in females but that is all I remember and the wife and I talked about it. Some say we are overloaded on calcium and 80% of us are short on magnesium. Others may have specifics to offer.

    Well I'll be honest...I read the Lyle McDonald Rapid Fat Loss book and although I didn't go as low calories as a PSMF, I used his protocol to at least create and aggressive deficit (for me) after a bulk. The only reason I started taking the magnesium was because the book said to do so, along with calcium. But now it seems like my calcium levels are way about the RDA.

    There are lots of foods with calcium in them. Dairy, obviously.
    Not so obviously: Dark leafies and broccoli have high concentrations. Sardines, tofu (ew...sorry, I'm 12 this morning :wink: ), green beans. Oranges, strangely enough. I think edamame, bok choy... and other veggies have smaller concentrations, like tomatoes, romaine, celery, asparagus, some spices...

    So if you are getting nutrient dense foods and are healthy, I think you are ok on the calcium.
    Mag is important in energy processing. It doesn't make it into our foods as much any more due to depleted soil. And if you're interested in muscle strength, which it seems you are, def keep up with the mag.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    baconslave wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?

    @arditarose there was a report that calcium supplements can raise the risk of heart attacks in females but that is all I remember and the wife and I talked about it. Some say we are overloaded on calcium and 80% of us are short on magnesium. Others may have specifics to offer.

    Well I'll be honest...I read the Lyle McDonald Rapid Fat Loss book and although I didn't go as low calories as a PSMF, I used his protocol to at least create and aggressive deficit (for me) after a bulk. The only reason I started taking the magnesium was because the book said to do so, along with calcium. But now it seems like my calcium levels are way about the RDA.

    There are lots of foods with calcium in them. Dairy, obviously.
    Not so obviously: Dark leafies and broccoli have high concentrations. Sardines, tofu (ew...sorry, I'm 12 this morning :wink: ), green beans. Oranges, strangely enough. I think edamame, bok choy... and other veggies have smaller concentrations, like tomatoes, romaine, celery, asparagus, some spices...

    So if you are getting nutrient dense foods and are healthy, I think you are ok on the calcium.
    Mag is important in energy processing. It doesn't make it into our foods any more due to depleted soil. And if you're interested in muscle strength, which it seems you are, def keep up with the mag.

    Okay cool. For some reason I got it in my head that they needed to be taken in a 1:1 ration. Out of all the foods you posted I only eat dark leafy greens and broccoli lol. Still, I think I'm getting enough C. Thanks all!
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,021 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    baconslave wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    I don't mean to derail but I'm a total noob and was hoping I could ask a quick question on this thread. Do I have to be taking a calcium supplement with my magnesium as well?

    @arditarose there was a report that calcium supplements can raise the risk of heart attacks in females but that is all I remember and the wife and I talked about it. Some say we are overloaded on calcium and 80% of us are short on magnesium. Others may have specifics to offer.

    Well I'll be honest...I read the Lyle McDonald Rapid Fat Loss book and although I didn't go as low calories as a PSMF, I used his protocol to at least create and aggressive deficit (for me) after a bulk. The only reason I started taking the magnesium was because the book said to do so, along with calcium. But now it seems like my calcium levels are way about the RDA.

    There are lots of foods with calcium in them. Dairy, obviously.
    Not so obviously: Dark leafies and broccoli have high concentrations. Sardines, tofu (ew...sorry, I'm 12 this morning :wink: ), green beans. Oranges, strangely enough. I think edamame, bok choy... and other veggies have smaller concentrations, like tomatoes, romaine, celery, asparagus, some spices...

    So if you are getting nutrient dense foods and are healthy, I think you are ok on the calcium.
    Mag is important in energy processing. It doesn't make it into our foods any more due to depleted soil. And if you're interested in muscle strength, which it seems you are, def keep up with the mag.

    Okay cool. For some reason I got it in my head that they needed to be taken in a 1:1 ration. Out of all the foods you posted I only eat dark leafy greens and broccoli lol. Still, I think I'm getting enough C. Thanks all!

    Yeah, I think I actually touched bok choy and tofu once once when I rang them up as a grocery-slinger many years ago. :lol: Dark leafies and broccoli are higher ones. So it looks good. :+1:
  • Twibbly
    Twibbly Posts: 1,065 Member
    baconslave wrote: »
    Yeah, I think I actually touched bok choy and tofu once once when I rang them up as a grocery-slinger many years ago. :lol: Dark leafies and broccoli are higher ones. So it looks good. :+1:

    Bok choy isn't half bad.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Made a BAD magnesium mistake.

    Yesterday MotherEarth liquid under the tongue Magnesium came in a blue 8 oz bottle. It taste fine.

    Today Dr. Deans' ReMag The Magnesium Miracle that is diluted in water came in a blue 8 oz bottle. It does not taste so fine uncut when placed under the tongue.

    I got me a glass to mix it in and turned around and put it under my tongue instead. My teeth are still aching some two hours later. The all natural sorbic acid from Mountain Ash Tree Berries like to have taken out my teeth I think. :)

    Well I need to get the snow blade off the tractor and put on the bush hog and mow the side of roads and some fields down at church. Trees are getting green and so is the grass.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Has any of you been more sleepy after starting taking Magnesium like the two in my post above? I keep seeing people say do not use the ASPARTATE type. Does any one understand why because I have a good stock of it.

    I am recovering from the Sorbic Acid accident yesterday because my teeth are starting to feel Keto slick again.
  • LINIA
    LINIA Posts: 1,159 Member
    OK, so if no calcium supplements then I could never stay under 50 grams of carbs a day. Can't imagine how with our WOE anyone can consume enough foods from above list to hit mdr for calcium w/o taking a pill. ( i take calcium/mag/zinc)
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    edited April 2016
    LINIA wrote: »
    OK, so if no calcium supplements then I could never stay under 50 grams of carbs a day. Can't imagine how with our WOE anyone can consume enough foods from above list to hit mdr for calcium w/o taking a pill. ( i take calcium/mag/zinc)

    @LINIA did you see the video I posted? The RDA for calcium of 1200mg/day is a made-up number according to Dr. Fung (how they got that # is explained in the video)
  • msohio33
    msohio33 Posts: 26 Member
    edited April 2016
    Thanks so much for the info Slimzandra!!! This is what I have been needing. You are awesome!❤️
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