Help, advice, something!!! New to Keto and am gaining weight
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I just thought I would share with you that I've done yard work the past 2 days and I can feel it in body today! The scale is reflecting the inflammation just as I expected it would. I am up about 2.5 pounds today, which kicked my average weight up 0.2.
It's just part of the normal healing process which is also true of other healing the body may be doing. Sometimes we experience long stretches of no loss that makes no sense, but I bet there are all sorts of healing processes going on during those times. It's worth waiting it out.
My daughter had very uncontrolled Type 1 Diabetes and had dropped down to under 100 pounds. On her 5'5" frame, she looked terribly sick. She started Keto in late January at 125lbs, and has put on 35 pounds since then. But, she brought her A1c down from >14 to 7 in that time and has reversed insulin resistance and lowered insulin usage from over 120 units a day to about 35. She's not overeating because she has felt very satisfied by the high fat food. There's simply no way she's eaten enough extra calories to gain that much that fast. Her body has tons of healing to do. I believe that regardless of calories, if we eat the right foods, our bodies will do whatever it needs to do to get healthy. If losing weight fits into that plan, then great! If gaining weight is necessary to get healthy, that's ok too.
I can hardly believe her A1c has plummeted do dramatically. !! Hooray !! for the both of you!2 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I just thought I would share with you that I've done yard work the past 2 days and I can feel it in body today! The scale is reflecting the inflammation just as I expected it would. I am up about 2.5 pounds today, which kicked my average weight up 0.2.
It's just part of the normal healing process which is also true of other healing the body may be doing. Sometimes we experience long stretches of no loss that makes no sense, but I bet there are all sorts of healing processes going on during those times. It's worth waiting it out.
My daughter had very uncontrolled Type 1 Diabetes and had dropped down to under 100 pounds. On her 5'5" frame, she looked terribly sick. She started Keto in late January at 125lbs, and has put on 35 pounds since then. But, she brought her A1c down from >14 to 7 in that time and has reversed insulin resistance and lowered insulin usage from over 120 units a day to about 35. She's not overeating because she has felt very satisfied by the high fat food. There's simply no way she's eaten enough extra calories to gain that much that fast. Her body has tons of healing to do. I believe that regardless of calories, if we eat the right foods, our bodies will do whatever it needs to do to get healthy. If losing weight fits into that plan, then great! If gaining weight is necessary to get healthy, that's ok too.
I can hardly believe her A1c has plummeted do dramatically. !! Hooray !! for the both of you!
Right?!?!? And for a T1D! Her nurse (a different one than previous) was still asking her to eat 30g carbs per meal even though she's had such improvement and they had to reduce her basal insulin AGAIN! Lol
I mean, why eat 30g? So she can take more insulin? What's the point of that? Oh, right, she told her she needs carbs for energy...
#Facepalm
I expect her to be able to achieve A1C of around 6. We will see!
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I just thought I would share with you that I've done yard work the past 2 days and I can feel it in body today! The scale is reflecting the inflammation just as I expected it would. I am up about 2.5 pounds today, which kicked my average weight up 0.2.
It's just part of the normal healing process which is also true of other healing the body may be doing. Sometimes we experience long stretches of no loss that makes no sense, but I bet there are all sorts of healing processes going on during those times. It's worth waiting it out.
My daughter had very uncontrolled Type 1 Diabetes and had dropped down to under 100 pounds. On her 5'5" frame, she looked terribly sick. She started Keto in late January at 125lbs, and has put on 35 pounds since then. But, she brought her A1c down from >14 to 7 in that time and has reversed insulin resistance and lowered insulin usage from over 120 units a day to about 35. She's not overeating because she has felt very satisfied by the high fat food. There's simply no way she's eaten enough extra calories to gain that much that fast. Her body has tons of healing to do. I believe that regardless of calories, if we eat the right foods, our bodies will do whatever it needs to do to get healthy. If losing weight fits into that plan, then great! If gaining weight is necessary to get healthy, that's ok too.
I can hardly believe her A1c has plummeted do dramatically. !! Hooray !! for the both of you!
Right?!?!? And for a T1D! Her nurse (a different one than previous) was still asking her to eat 30g carbs per meal even though she's had such improvement and they had to reduce her basal insulin AGAIN! Lol
I mean, why eat 30g? So she can take more insulin? What's the point of that? Oh, right, she told her she needs carbs for energy...
#Facepalm
I expect her to be able to achieve A1C of around 6. We will see!
Nurses are not trained on that stuff. I would expect better information if you said this was a CDE or an endocrinologist, but I've run into a whole lot of nurses, PA's, and even GP's that didn't understand T1D.2 -
ettaterrell wrote: »If working out is new its water gain from that and will go away in a few days... You can almost bet if you have a sore muscle you will have water gain
I just started working out after a month of not doing anything and I was really sore.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I just thought I would share with you that I've done yard work the past 2 days and I can feel it in body today! The scale is reflecting the inflammation just as I expected it would. I am up about 2.5 pounds today, which kicked my average weight up 0.2.
It's just part of the normal healing process which is also true of other healing the body may be doing. Sometimes we experience long stretches of no loss that makes no sense, but I bet there are all sorts of healing processes going on during those times. It's worth waiting it out.
My daughter had very uncontrolled Type 1 Diabetes and had dropped down to under 100 pounds. On her 5'5" frame, she looked terribly sick. She started Keto in late January at 125lbs, and has put on 35 pounds since then. But, she brought her A1c down from >14 to 7 in that time and has reversed insulin resistance and lowered insulin usage from over 120 units a day to about 35. She's not overeating because she has felt very satisfied by the high fat food. There's simply no way she's eaten enough extra calories to gain that much that fast. Her body has tons of healing to do. I believe that regardless of calories, if we eat the right foods, our bodies will do whatever it needs to do to get healthy. If losing weight fits into that plan, then great! If gaining weight is necessary to get healthy, that's ok too.
I can hardly believe her A1c has plummeted do dramatically. !! Hooray !! for the both of you!
Right?!?!? And for a T1D! Her nurse (a different one than previous) was still asking her to eat 30g carbs per meal even though she's had such improvement and they had to reduce her basal insulin AGAIN! Lol
I mean, why eat 30g? So she can take more insulin? What's the point of that? Oh, right, she told her she needs carbs for energy...
#Facepalm
I expect her to be able to achieve A1C of around 6. We will see!
Nurses are not trained on that stuff. I would expect better information if you said this was a CDE or an endocrinologist, but I've run into a whole lot of nurses, PA's, and even GP's that didn't understand T1D.
I would meet either (or both) of you in a coffee shop near where you live (HWC = my treat!) before I'd take pot luck with someone who's not an independent diabetes pro.
Most everyone else tends to parrot the standard lines. Dogmas often die slow deaths, the coffin lid not closing until the last generation that learned the "old school" paradigm is finally outnumbered. (But maybe social media is helping speed the process along... )
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Sometimes it takes a while to lose weight. I actually gained weight the first month and then started losing on day 44. I was eating when I wasn't hungry. I just couldn't resist all those wonderful fats. But eventually my hunger caught up with my calorie intake. I honestly felt like my body kept checking in to see if I was still going to feed it as much as it wanted. I was so use to calorie restrictions and severe low fat foods.
I'm trying to get my body to tell me when to eat and when not to eat and on day 44, I think it finally believed I was going to feed it.
Something I learned from Weight Watchers is try not to weigh yourself more than once a week. And then always weigh yourself at the same time of day and on the same scale with the same amount of clothes on. Your body can lose and gain as much as 5 lbs a day due to water intake. So just weighing yourself once a week on the same day and time you will probably get the same amount of water retention and food intake. But on the other hand, that app sounds really interesting.
Hang in there, sometimes it takes a while to lose weight, but we slow losers are more likely to keep the weight off.1 -
I'm a nurse and the diabetic nurse at work heard me talking to my colleague about me being on a low carb diet and eating less than 20grams of carbs a day.... She went crazy at me! Especially about the fat and how it's a recipe for a heart attack.... I diplomatically reminded her that I dance (when my hip permits!) and so if I keep my calorie intake at a slight deficit or equal then I am using up the fat and using my own stores so actually it's healthier.... I reminded her of the glycogen role etc...And as I explained the benefits she then changed the subject having said oh yeah but that's only if you cut out the carbs and calories?! Nurse 1-diabetic specialist 0! We advocate low carb diets for the diabetics but not as low as Keto etc. But that's based on the medical guidance but because of the info conflicting healthy heart and cholesterol info. It is a difficult one as there are many benefits but as we can't advocate a high fat diet it becomes a difficult one...
As for the weight gain, I have not lost any since my first loss 3 weeks ago but think I was eating too much protein and with my hip I think that's stopped me loosing. Perseverance is the key! I feel so much better on the low carb with less bloating, that's what matters irrespective of anything! Good luck!1 -
Hello!! I've been following a keto lifestyle for a little over a year now. I've lost a total of 112, the first 50 on low cal, the last 62 on low carb. I've been stuck for the last 2 months...that's my own fault. Anyway did you change your macros on MFP to reflect low carb, moderate protein and high fat? That works as a good guide. Make sure your eating enough fat, don't use too many substitute foods in the beginning, I didn't use any low carb products like Atkins or use almond flour or any other low carb (flour).. Stick to the basics, protein (meats/eggs) fat(butter/heavy cream/cheese) and serving sizes of low carb veggies (usually green). After keeping it simple for a few weeks then add other types of low carb foods. Don't forget water..drink alot of water too!! Hope this helps!!4
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Panda_Poptarts wrote: »@kpk54 Great point on the cabbage. Milliliters and grams have a 1:1 conversion, so 1mL cabbage = 1g cabbage. Both are accurate weight entries.
The conversion from grams to ml is NOT universally 1:1. That conversion only works for water (and things having the same density as water).
One measure I found for cabbage was 1900 ml of cabbage = 908 grams of cabbage (based on a weighed head of cabbage, shredded then measured in a volume-based container)
You can find conversion factors for many common items, but not typically for solids, because of the varying packing densities would make an accurate conversion factor very difficult to determine.4 -
yes but cabbage has basically no calories so don't worry about that.1
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Years of eating low fat diet and counting calories resulted in maintaining an unhealthy weight and borderline diabetis diagnosis. So, going LCHF is a struggle in mind and cooking retraining! Added to the struggle is husband insisting on sticking with lowfat diet and eating schedule on a time clock. Trying to mix and adjust both cooking techniques and times are not working! For the first 2 weeks I did lose a little but this week I gained a couple of pounds. Any advice or help for this complicated situation?1
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yes but cabbage has basically no calories so don't worry about that.
89g of cabbage has 22.2 calories, 18.7 of them come from carbohydrate. 11.2 of those are from sugar.
So I guess it only matters on an individual basis and how sensitive to sugar you are. I personally think the source of the calories matters more than just calories as a generic measure.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't a place for cabbage in a low carb or even a Keto diet, but it comes down to volume and personal sensitivity much much more than how many calories it has.3 -
Years of eating low fat diet and counting calories resulted in maintaining an unhealthy weight and borderline diabetis diagnosis. So, going LCHF is a struggle in mind and cooking retraining! Added to the struggle is husband insisting on sticking with lowfat diet and eating schedule on a time clock. Trying to mix and adjust both cooking techniques and times are not working! For the first 2 weeks I did lose a little but this week I gained a couple of pounds. Any advice or help for this complicated situation?
Losing and gaining from week to week will always happen. None of us ever go without periods of the scale showing gains at some point. The closer to goal we are, the more it seems to fluctuate.
Just remember that the scale showing a couple pounds increase doesn't necessarily mean you've gained fat. If you're eating the same way you were during the times you lost weight, you have nothing to fear. You haven't gained fat. Just keep on low carbing and it will go down again when your body decides.
In the mean time, you quite likely will continue to get physically smaller even when the scale goes up. It may not be around your waist or hips, it may be across the shoulders, face/neck, a little from each arm or leg... Places where it's not obvious and even such small amounts all over your body that the measuring tape doesn't reflect it from one week to the next, but it's happening. If you keep doing what works.2 -
Jbarnes1210 wrote: »Hello!! I've been following a keto lifestyle for a little over a year now. I've lost a total of 112, the first 50 on low cal, the last 62 on low carb. I've been stuck for the last 2 months...that's my own fault. Anyway did you change your macros on MFP to reflect low carb, moderate protein and high fat? That works as a good guide. Make sure your eating enough fat, don't use too many substitute foods in the beginning, I didn't use any low carb products like Atkins or use almond flour or any other low carb (flour).. Stick to the basics, protein (meats/eggs) fat(butter/heavy cream/cheese) and serving sizes of low carb veggies (usually green). After keeping it simple for a few weeks then add other types of low carb foods. Don't forget water..drink alot of water too!! Hope this helps!!
I have updated my macros to reflect my low carb and added the add-on to show net carbs. I think you are right on keeping it simple. I have been making a good bit of the bread alternatives (ultimate keto buns and such). I think I will stick with the basics you stated. I will stick with the oopsie roll (eggs and cream cheese) if I need something bread like.0 -
I did have a 0.6 loss this morning.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »yes but cabbage has basically no calories so don't worry about that.
89g of cabbage has 22.2 calories, 18.7 of them come from carbohydrate. 11.2 of those are from sugar.
So I guess it only matters on an individual basis and how sensitive to sugar you are. I personally think the source of the calories matters more than just calories as a generic measure.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't a place for cabbage in a low carb or even a Keto diet, but it comes down to volume and personal sensitivity much much more than how many calories it has.
that is some super sugary cabbage - I don't know where you got that data from, but the USDA says 75g of cabbage has 3g net carbs and 2g sugar @ 20kcal. http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/HHFS_CABBAGE_FRESH900180Oct2012.pdf
The point being that weighing vs. cups measurement for cabbage is a waste of time, we are talking about 3-5 calorie difference maybe.2 -
Years of eating low fat diet and counting calories resulted in maintaining an unhealthy weight and borderline diabetes diagnosis. So, going LCHF is a struggle in mind and cooking retraining! Added to the struggle is husband insisting on sticking with lowfat diet and eating schedule on a time clock. Trying to mix and adjust both cooking techniques and times are not working! For the first 2 weeks I did lose a little but this week I gained a couple of pounds. Any advice or help for this complicated situation?
Rose, I can totally relate to the mental struggle with the transition from LF to HF. You and I are from the same era (I'm 62). We've had LF (and low cholesterol) pounded into our heads for about 50 years. In switching to high fat, I fight the "I'm going to die of a heart attack" mentality. It lurks in the back of my mind.
I don't have the joy of losing weight accompanying and offsetting the "fat makes fat" and "cholesterol leads to cholesterol" mentality. I've lost all my excess weight via moderate C,F & P but made the switch to LCHF on April 3 of this year for a reason other than weight. The biggest struggle I have had switching to LC (having been 1 year losing and 2 years maintaining with higher carbs-160 as an average) is: I became quite a "volume eater". Eating huge piles of salads and vegetables...without butter, dressings, etc. I think I am finally reaching the point where fat IS filling and I don't have to see a massive pile of food in front of me to "feel" full.
You'll get the hang of cooking high fat for one and low fat for another. I PREVIOUSLY would have fish (with a little PAM to keep it from sticking) when my husband would have a nice, fatty, juicy ribeye. Previously, I'd make a giant salad, have him take the little bit he wanted and I'd eat the remainder...WITHOUT the cheese, bacon dressing I set out for him to adorn his tiny bit of fresh vegetables. Now, however...I eat LIKE him (minus the taters) so my cooking has gotten easier. Interesting, he has never been over weight and never had a problem stopping eating because he is full. Hmmmm...
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »yes but cabbage has basically no calories so don't worry about that.
89g of cabbage has 22.2 calories, 18.7 of them come from carbohydrate. 11.2 of those are from sugar.
So I guess it only matters on an individual basis and how sensitive to sugar you are. I personally think the source of the calories matters more than just calories as a generic measure.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't a place for cabbage in a low carb or even a Keto diet, but it comes down to volume and personal sensitivity much much more than how many calories it has.
that is some super sugary cabbage - I don't know where you got that data from, but the USDA says 75g of cabbage has 3g net carbs and 2g sugar @ 20kcal. http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/HHFS_CABBAGE_FRESH900180Oct2012.pdf
The point being that weighing vs. cups measurement for cabbage is a waste of time, we are talking about 3-5 calorie difference maybe.
That's the same resource I referenced but I mentioned 89g instead of your 75g. The 89g has 2.8g (11.2 calories) sugar, your 75g has 2g (8 calories) of sugar. So if you think the cabbage I referenced was super sugary, your reference is too. And I don't count net carbs.1 -
I agree with the above advice on watching closely on your food logging. What I have done with a chicken leg is weigh it before eating, then weigh the bones afterwards, and subtract the difference. That way you're more accurately recording the amounts eaten. Definitely watch the foods already in the MFP database, because many are inaccurate! Using "USDA" before logging each entry can help with accuracy!
I use the same trick! I also have to cross check every now and then because even those results can vary greatly. I use the macros as a check sum too. For example if the macros are f-9, c-1, and p-10 and calories are 250 (should be around 125), I know that whoever made that entry wasn't too concerned with accuracy.2 -
