back again to seriously try it
DSFfit
Posts: 133 Member
I tried this too briefly last summer for only a month and got discouraged when I began to gain weight
after nearly two years of dieting and intense workouts I am more overweight than ever and I do have more fitness-muscle but a huge stomach now.
Im 54 and have joint pain too.
Dieting has failed, eating 1200 calories failed.
This is my last ditch effort
after nearly two years of dieting and intense workouts I am more overweight than ever and I do have more fitness-muscle but a huge stomach now.
Im 54 and have joint pain too.
Dieting has failed, eating 1200 calories failed.
This is my last ditch effort
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Welcome back! I hear ya on getting discouraged. Same thing happened to me, but eating too low did nothing for me, so I decided to give this another kick at the can. I've seen an increase on the scale yes but my clothes still feel the same, and I still feel lean. Your body will thank you for it.
Might I suggest a metabolism reset? Especially if you have been eating so few calories.
eatmore2weighless.com/the-metabolism-reset-guide/
Slowly increasing my calories right now so my body doesn't get too shocked by it. If you need anything help, feel free to ask anyone!2 -
Hello thank you for your reply--so if I have been at 1200 calories for a year and me TDEE is about 1910 --I need to take about 6 weeks to get there and then stay at that for about 8-12 weeks before I cut?0
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Some people jump right up to their approximate TDEE from day one. Some, like me, add in 100-200 calories per day, eat at that for a week, increase again, eat at that a week etc. It's up to you. I preferred the slowly adding calories in so I could see what happened to my weight, get a better handle on it so to speak. It's all up to you which one you do.
I'd suggest once you find your TDEE that you eat at that longer than 8-12 weeks. If you have been dieting a long time, the longer you eat at TDEE the better. I'd plan on at least 4-5 months there.
Go read, and read, and read. This WILL work for you, you just have to trust the process.2 -
Hi. Glad you are giving it another try. Did you have a look at the EM2WL.com website before? So much useful information and the forums are full of people who have been where you are/ are where you are and share journeys together. It's a very supportive community.
This is great too http://eatmore2weighless.com/faqs/
This simplifies everything as sometimes it's all just too much information and complicates things.
You can do this! We are here to help and support you. Anything you are struggling with or are confused with, the answer can be found over at EM2WL.com or ask here and we will answer you.
So great that you are giving this a second try. Just concentrate on one step at a time, don't change everything all at once. You got this!
~Ichel
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator2 -
Welcome back! Sometimes we have to walk away in order to realize this is the right path. Many of us have done that before:)
As the others have said the EM2WL.com site has a lot of information that can be helpful for you. The FAQ and reset guide already posted are great sources to start you off. Consider hitting the forums at http://forums.eatmore2weighless.com/ to write your own journey post? Its a great place to write down your thoughts and processes as you go through this as a way to record your story.
Begin your journey slow. Consistency is key, so pick one thing right now to change and change only that. So in your case, raising to your TDEE would be a great place to start:)
You are so ready for this now:)
Kelly
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator1 -
Thank you everyone. Yes- I've really been frustrated because I have been working out daily with circuit training and a 3 mile walk for 2 years now and it has caught up to me with all over joint pain.
The last month or so I have cut down my workouts to only 1 or 2 a week and my belly has puffed out. This is with MFP set to 1200 calories which I rarely go over (I do eat most of my exercise calories back though) I thought maybe my daily glass of wine was the issue so I quit that for 2 months and still no progress.
I am 5 ' 3.5" and when I was younger and working out 135lb was a good weight for me even though I preferred 125. I have been stuck at 155 since my third child at age 40 (I am 54 now) despite doing everything I did in the past after previous childbirth to get back to the 130s I haven't gotten out of the 150s for 14 years.
I know it has to be due to a slower metabolism because in a lot of ways I am more active now than I was 15 years ago.
So, I reset MFP to 1550 to start with and I will try to stay there for at least a month to see what happens. I am also going to give up alcohol again and restrict sodium.
Thanks for reading!
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@DSfit , that's exactly how it goes. After a few tries, no matter how hard we push ourselves, what used to work does not work anymore. We end up eating less, exercising more and we end up gaining weigh. It can be undone, but takes time and patience.
In your case, a metabolism reset would be a great idea. You don't have to do it all at once, a slow increase, 100 cals extra per day. The though of this process being long may be unappealing, but it a sure deal, it's a process that will lead you to lifelong results. Despite the summer being here, take a deep breath, check our free starter guide (http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/?utm_source=mfp&utm_medium=DM&utm_campaign=quick start ).
We are here to help!
Tereza
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And the thing is I know what I've been doing is impossible to maintain. I wake up at 3 am hungry and don't eat and fight the hunger all the time, my nails are very brittle and break really easily. I need to eat more. Its hard to get my courage up to allow myself to try this.
I rechecked and my maintenance TDEE is supposedly 2230 --I am going to work up slowly to that since I've rarely had more than 1500 calories a day in the last few years.
How long should I stay at TDEE once I get there? Should it be longer since I have been restricted for so long?
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Yes, increase it, even is slowly,your body and mind will thank you! Brittle nails and hair are a big telltale of under eating. Like Kelly said, consistency is the key. Start raising you calories, than look at your protein intake and just keep going. You will see results, in no time you will feel less aches, your skin will look better, nails will improve, the whole thing.
Don't worry about how long you will stay on your TDEE, get there first, you may end up staying there even longer that you expect once you start feeling the positive side effects.
Make it simple, don't worry about crazy calculations.
Tereza
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As Tereza said, dont worry about how long at TDEE right now, just aim to get there. Like you, I joined having my hair falling out, my nails were so brittle, they split in half all the time, and I was tired constantly (even with small children at home:))
Knowing the low cal diets are not sustainable, and understanding that this is a complete lifestyle change are the biggest steps. Concentrate on getting the cals up, get your protein up and then we can go from there
Kelly
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator3 -
It's such a good thing that you recognise under eating is not sustainable.
Many of the benefits of eating more will solve things like brittle nails. You will have more energy, better skin, growing hair and nails, better sleep, better moods.......... So much!
Trust me, you will not regret raising your calories. I would suggest trying to eat something light before going to bed. Waking up hungry during the night is definitely a loud message that your body wants more food!
Let us know a progress update.
~Ichel
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator0 -
I just came acroos this article and thout about you, @DSFfit http://eatmore2weighless.com/metabolism-reset-how-much-longer/
Tereza
Team EM2WL2 -
Here is whats been going on the last 10 days or so...
I went on a trip and have basically been on the road eating out of a cooler and restaurants and hotel breakfasts.
I tried to not think too much about calories but still found myself skipping meals and afraid to reach my new goal of
1600 calories a day.
I didn't get as much exercise as usual either.
I haven't gained any weight though.
I am having a hard time mentally allowing myself to get to 1600 a day.
But really haven't been logging so maybe I have been eating more than that.
so now I am home and back on regular schedule I am ready to focus.
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Tereza
Thank you for the link to the article
it makes a lot of sense.
I am struggling mentally with allowing myself to eat more
I thought when I was traveling it would be easy to do but when others at the restaurant were ordering a full meal I would get a side of a plain potato and sprinkle it with pepper and that was all I would eat.
I think back at the times in my life when I was at a healthy weight I really wasn't thinking about food very much. Seems like all I think about is food, numbers and how much exercise I have to do to eat.0 -
DSFfit, I was obsessed with numbers and calories and all that once. The mental part is one of the toughest ones in this journey, no doubt. To let go of the old mentality that we need to eat like birds to look like stick figures is not an easy task, but that mindset has got to go. For me I decided that if was was going to obsess about food so much, it would be in a way that would let me enjoy it and be happy. With the EM2WL lifestyle I get to eat what I want and like, enjoy life, feel good and look the way I want. To just have a baked potato while everyone is eating yummier stuff is sad, you deserve better than that!
This is a nice journey story talking about increasing those calories: http://eatmore2weighless.com/not-eating-enough-calories-for-weight-loss/
Tereza
Team EM2WL-1 -
one problem I have that Ive noticed while logging for the past 700plus days is
although I am usually under the calorie goal of 1200 I am nearly always a bit over the fat
grams
maybe if I eat more calories I will crave less fat? Its generally due to eating peanut butter and microwave popcorn. I eat a lot of popcorn to try to stop the hunger pangs.0 -
one problem I have that Ive noticed while logging for the past 700plus days is
although I am usually under the calorie goal of 1200 I am nearly always a bit over the fat
grams
maybe if I eat more calories I will crave less fat? Its generally due to eating peanut butter and microwave popcorn. I eat a lot of popcorn to try to stop the hunger pangs.
By increasing your protein levels, you will find you are way less hungry, and it will automatically balance out the fat and carbs. Craving or Binging is a huge sign your body is not getting the fuel it needs.
The mental game is a huge hurdle to overcome. But it can be done as long as you are willing to do it. Take it day by day. Put your daily cal amount up. If its still set to 1200, then increase it up by 100-200. Focus on hitting that number. Promise yourself to give this a fair shot. Work hard to build the calories up. Breathe and let go of your past. Remember how horrible it is to sit in a restaurant and eat nothing but that plain baked potato, while everyone else ate "Real" meals? By getting your cals up and hitting your correct levels, you will find you no longer have to eat that side of whatever as a meal. You can actually have a real plate of food and ENJOY it with everyone else. Think about how happy you were when you never had to concern yourself over what you ate.. Don't you want that feeling back? You CAN get it again. Rip the bandaid, and give yourself permission to fuel your body. Allow yourself to feel happy about food again.
If you need a challenge to focus on while you are building up your cals, try our 7 day protein challenge. This will help you to focus on increasing your protein amount and get those cals in
http://eatmore2weighless.com/eat-enough-protein/
We are here to help.
Kelly
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator4 -
Kelly, I loved your post! I couldn't have said it better!
Tereza
Team EM2WL0 -
@DSFfit this is a quick post from EM2WL nailing proteins easily: https://www.facebook.com/EM2WL/videos/1141387395913666/
Tereza
Team EM2WL1 -
@DSFit I've been working my way up to my TDEE for almost a year now. I still have a little ways to go. I have had to fight with myself almost every day to up my calories. The mental aspect is crazy difficult to deal with some days. After getting my daily average up to 1900 consistently, I'm working on getting them consistently up to 2100. I've hit it two weeks out of four, and not two weeks in a row yet either. I'm not going to give up! I can't believe how much energy I have now compared to a year ago when I was eating under 1000 calories a day. I ate so little then that I considered 2000 calories a major binge and would become physically ill the once a week that I hit that many calories. Once I hit that 1900 a couple of weeks in a row I no longer had the desire to binge, and I haven't since! I have learned so much this year, it's been a crazy roller coaster ride mentally though.2
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@DSFit I've been working my way up to my TDEE for almost a year now. I still have a little ways to go. I have had to fight with myself almost every day to up my calories. The mental aspect is crazy difficult to deal with some days. After getting my daily average up to 1900 consistently, I'm working on getting them consistently up to 2100. I've hit it two weeks out of four, and not two weeks in a row yet either. I'm not going to give up! I can't believe how much energy I have now compared to a year ago when I was eating under 1000 calories a day. I ate so little then that I considered 2000 calories a major binge and would become physically ill the once a week that I hit that many calories. Once I hit that 1900 a couple of weeks in a row I no longer had the desire to binge, and I haven't since! I have learned so much this year, it's been a crazy roller coaster ride mentally though.
May I quote for the group?:)0 -
I wouldn't worry about the fat grams. As you increase calories the fat grams will increase as well. If you are hungry all the time, you need more food.
I'm not to my goal yet but I have come to love myself and to feed my body. It's much better on this side I promise you. Give into the process.2 -
so I've been eating over 1400 calories for over a month (started before I posted here) I am now trying to eat at 1600 calories but I'm still hungry all the time.
The first weird thing is I got a menstrual cycle--I thought I was officially in menopause since its been over 6 months since I had one! I guess that proves I wasn't eating enough.
I'm not really sure how I should log my exercise as light or moderate etc.
I try to walk 2-3 miles several times a week. Do weights(dumbbells) or circuit training 3 times a week and I'm active with yard work etc. I do kayaking but not every weekend although I am hoping to go every weekend.
Im trying to determine my actual TDEE.
54 years old
5'3"
153 ish lbs
if moderate its about 2400
light 2100
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@DSFfit , considering your workout description you are definitely at least moderate, forget light activity. But you probably are scared of the numbers the calculator are giving you. Don't be afraid, you are burning all that. 1600 is too little, no wonder you are hungry all the time. Increase your calories slowly, go for 1700 for a week, than 1800 for another and so on until you reach your TDEE. Stay there for some weeks so your body can remember what maintenance is and introduce a slow cut. In a nutshell that's a reset.
Being hungry is the way that your body finds to try to make you keep the calories coming. It's a good sign, it shows that the body is changing and the metabolism is increasing.
This post talks about not eating enough calories http://eatmore2weighless.com/not-eating-enough-calories-for-weight-loss/
Tereza
Team EM2WL2 -
As Tereza says, you are definitely underestimating. You are certainly in the moderate category and your body is telling you that by saying "HELLO!!! IM HUNGRY!!!"
Finding your TDEE is a mind game because no one wants to believe they actually burn that many calories. But I assure you, you do. Increase up slowly, listen to the hunger cues.
Kelly
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator1 -
Great advice, I am having a hard time allowing myself to eat 1600-1700. I just upped it yesterday to 1700, with exercise it was 1900 but I am mentally beating myself for eating.0
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Don't beat yourself for eating. I know it can be challenging and hard, emotionally and physically to do such a huge change, but trust me, your body will thank you for that! Increase it slowly and don't go into the "I need to burn or earn those extra cals", ok? You are fixing your metabolism, keep that in your mind.
Here is some reading on metabolism fixing http://eatmore2weighless.com/cant-fix-metabolism-without-addressing-this/
Tereza
Team EM2WL3 -
The mental part of this is the hardest. Just know that you are loving and healing your body and you deserve that.
Just increasing your calories is a great step.
I'd like to leave you with the quote I have on my profile;
"... the scale can only give you a numerical reflection of your relationship with gravity. That’s it. It cannot measure beauty, talent, purpose, life force, possibility, strength, or love. Don’t give the scale more power than it has earned. Take note of the number, then get off the scale and live your life. You are beautiful!” ~ Steve Maraboli
This process does get easier. Hang on in there, we are here to support you.
Ichel
EM2WL Ambassador and Moderator3 -
Thank you all for the great articles and advice!
I made it to 1600 calories yesterday my goal for this week is 1700
but two problems
one is I was 14 grams over fat goal
second I felt like I was eating all the time
My question I have now is
the EM2WL TDEE calculator gives me different (higher) numbers than the Scooby one
I know you used to recommend the Scooby one
Do I put in my current weight in the calc or my goal weight?
Scooby gives me a TDEE of about 1700
and the EM2WL is about 2100
a big difference
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