July Q and A

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  • pdxhak
    pdxhak Posts: 383 Member
    Appreciate the feedback :)
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,627 Member
    As a fellow high-school sprinter, I agree the first trick to sprinting is to go out there and sprint. That said, you can increase your power output in the weight room as well. Notice I said "power" not "strength", there is a difference: power is strength applied over time. If you get stronger and move a heavier weight in the same amount of time, you increase power. You can also increase power by moving the same weight in a shorter amount of time.

    I prefer to use the leg press machine for this purpose. Let me throw some numbers out for example purposes. Let's say you can leg press 500#, using two seconds to press the weight up. You can increase power by pressing 1000# in that same two seconds, or by pressing 500# in a single second. Both examples double your power output.

    A coworker wanted some help with his leg drive when sprinting at the end of his runs. I told him to sit at a leg press machine with a very light weight, one-quarter the weight he normally uses. (In our example above you'd use 125#.) Lower the weight under control, then explode the weight up so hard and fast the sled literally leaves his feet for a moment until gravity pulls it back down. Catch the weight with extended legs and unlocked knees, slowing the descent to bring it back down again under control to prep for the next rep.

    You don't need a ton of reps of the explosive variety. Try 3-5 reps per set. You can do this with leg presses or squats (be sure to pull the bar tightly against your shoulders and propel your entire body into the air in a jump). Box jumps are also very beneficial for sprinters, with or without extra weight in hand. Start low, work your way higher as you gain experience.

    Leg extensions are less useful for sprinting, where you need powerful hamstrings and glutes to propel your leg behind you, thus propelling you forward. So think about adding heavy hip bridges to your arsenal. Awkward as blazes til you get used to them, and easy to feel embarrassed, but amazing results.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,627 Member
    edited July 2016
    My question is more aesthetic in nature. This month I'm pulling crazy-mad overtime, working 6 12-hr shifts per week. Throw in commute, sleep, hygiene and meal prep, and I barely have a couple hours per day left over. I choose to spend those two hours with my family rather than working out, that's my decision. Hopefully things will calm down in a month and I'll be able to resume lifting. In the meantime, some of those nagging pains in my joints (knees, hip, shoulder) are starting to lessen, so we'll call that a plus.

    My concern is how much muscle will I lose in the interim. I already know I'm going to need lighter weights upon my return to the gym, but how quickly will my hard-earned muscle disappear? I currently eat at maintenance or slightly below (100-200 calories), with less protein intake than I'd prefer (averaging 100-120 grams for my estimated 160# of LBM). On training days I add a protein shake to my intake, and some days I'll hit north of 150g from having extra chicken or whatnot, that's just the average. (NEVER less than 80g, I will drink a shake as needed to push above that floor.)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    nossmf wrote: »
    My question is more aesthetic in nature. This month I'm pulling crazy-mad overtime, working 6 12-hr shifts per week. Throw in commute, sleep, hygiene and meal prep, and I barely have a couple hours per day left over. I choose to spend those two hours with my family rather than working out, that's my decision. Hopefully things will calm down in a month and I'll be able to resume lifting. In the meantime, some of those nagging pains in my joints (knees, hip, shoulder) are starting to lessen, so we'll call that a plus.

    My concern is how much muscle will I lose in the interim. I already know I'm going to need lighter weights upon my return to the gym, but how quickly will my hard-earned muscle disappear? I currently eat at maintenance or slightly below (100-200 calories), with less protein intake than I'd prefer (averaging 100-120 grams for my estimated 160# of LBM). On training days I add a protein shake to my intake, and some days I'll hit north of 150g from having extra chicken or whatnot, that's just the average. (NEVER less than 80g, I will drink a shake as needed to push above that floor.)

    From the sedentary studies i have seen, it would recommend around 1g per lb as sufficient to sustain lbm.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,627 Member
    1g/# of LBM or BW? (I'm falling short either way.)
  • AigreDoux
    AigreDoux Posts: 594 Member
    SideSteel wrote: »
    If I were you I'd bring cals to estimated maintenance for two weeks, then resume deficit.

    I started diet break on Friday, but how much protein should I be aiming for? Is 130-140 adequate?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    nossmf wrote: »
    1g/# of LBM or BW? (I'm falling short either way.)

    Generally lean body mass to body weight. It depends on leanness. Being lean it might be better to get near bodyweight.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,627 Member
    Meh, I'm estimating I'm in the 15-17% BF range, so not terribly lean but I'm happy with it for pushing 40 yo. I'm familiar with the idea of 1g/#, but have always associated it with either gaining LBM or losing fat, where I'm happy to maintain, so I didn't know if that changed the equation any.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    nossmf wrote: »
    Meh, I'm estimating I'm in the 15-17% BF range, so not terribly lean but I'm happy with it for pushing 40 yo. I'm familiar with the idea of 1g/#, but have always associated it with either gaining LBM or losing fat, where I'm happy to maintain, so I didn't know if that changed the equation any.

    If anything i would person aim to get close to 1g per lb of lbm. I will keep looking but the only study i could find was on sedentary older women.
  • elly1979
    elly1979 Posts: 79 Member
    edited July 2016
    I have two questions related to my lifting routine, which is this one here:
    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/the-beginner-weight-training-workout-routine/

    Briefly, it's compound, 3 lifts a workout, rep pattern of 3x8-10

    My first issue is deadlifts. Im getting to the point of 8-10 reps being too much for that move, and injury as I scale up on weight concerns me. Any suggestions, such as bringing down the volume just on this move, maybe to 5?

    Second issue/question is, is there any issue with me changing the sequence from:

    deadlift, pull ups, OHP
    To
    deadlifts, OHP, pull ups?

    (Reversing last two). Reason is because I dont want to give up my rack at the gym :) deadlifts and ohp are in my rack but I use a pull up assistance machine.

    Thanks!

  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    elly1979 wrote: »
    I have two questions related to my lifting routine, which is this one here:
    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/the-beginner-weight-training-workout-routine/

    Briefly, it's compound, 3 lifts a workout, rep pattern of 3x8-10

    My first issue is deadlifts. Im getting to the point of 8-10 reps being too much for that move, and injury as I scale up on weight concerns me. Any suggestions, such as bringing down the volume just on this move, maybe to 5?

    Second issue/question is, is there any issue with me changing the sequence from:

    deadlift, pull ups, OHP
    To
    deadlifts, OHP, pull ups?

    (Reversing last two). Reason is because I dont want to give up my rack at the gym :) deadlifts and ohp are in my rack but I use a pull up assistance machine.

    Thanks!

    1) What's your goal? It's probably fine to scale back volume but I'm curious what your goal is and additionally if you're concerned about injury consider posting a video so we can check your technique.

    2) I don't see any major issue in swapping the order of those two around. I am curious though, is there a reason you are deadlifting in a rack instead of outside of the rack?
  • elly1979
    elly1979 Posts: 79 Member
    Thanks, sidesteel

    1. Goal: overall conditioning and health. Progressive improvements in strength. (Vague, I know). I had read some internet mischief that high reps on deadlift can increase chance of injury. I still feel ok at 8-10 reps but that may be too taxing at some point. I'm only at 90 lbs right now.

    2. Perhaps I should clarify. I go to the hammerstrength area and set up the deadlift outside of it. So I'm not inside the rack, but using the rack's barbell, weights, etc. any barbell floor work at my gym is done located by these racks (e.g. Outside of them/right in front). So if I leave the area, someone else may come in and take up that hammerstrength, which I need for OHP (i also rack my ohp on the hammerstrength, on the "outside" about shoulder width.
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member
    If you are concerned about high reps at higher weight, could you not swap the 3 sets of 8-10 to a 10, 7, 5 or similar? Then you can up weight each set
  • elly1979
    elly1979 Posts: 79 Member
    I like that idea jo_marnes, thank you. :)
  • mrp56839
    mrp56839 Posts: 159 Member
    SideSteel wrote: »

    The two strategies you could use (I've used both when coaching and it depends on the individual) would be as follows:

    1) Reduce intake by about 10% or so and see what happens in 1 to 2 weeks.
    2) Break out the food scale, prepare ALL of your own food in the next week (no restaurant food at all, minimal pre-packaged food), and log like it's your damn job. Be as OCD as you can but just for 1 week, at the same goal intake you have now.

    I suspect that either one of these will bring results.


    20 days later, checking in. I took your advice - I shot for 10% and log like it's my job. In 3 weeks, I'm down 4.2lbs. :smiley: My weekly mileage has increased from about 8 to around 13 and I'm still lifting 2x/week. I hit my 2nd scale goal last week with my next one only 10lbs away. I meet with my trainer today and the topic of discussion is managing weight loss goals with strength goals with half marathon training goals. I'm starting to feel like there are too many balls in the air... I really like the guy and I've seen great results in my strength and mobility, but the other two topics may not be exactly in his wheelhouse. I'm interested to hear what he thinks.

  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Congrats!