Kidneys are Killing me.
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trish55011 wrote: »Update... Drank 1/4tsp of salt and No-Salt about 25 minutes ago. Kidney pain is gone, and I'm not dying of thirst. Think I may have just found the ticket. Thanks you guys for helping me with this. Will definitely reduce H2o. And will up the measurements in my next batch of keto-aid. Going to try my hand now at making fat head pizza and cloud bread.
I can't tell you how many times we've heard "I get plenty of sodium, but..." and then, "well, I did what you guys said and had even more sodium and it totally worked". Lol
WE NEED LOTS OF SODIUM.
EVEN MORE IF WE DRINK LOTS OF WATER.
AMOUNTS THAT MIGHT SEEM CRAZY EVEN!5 -
@Sunny_Bunny_ is so right I've been getting 4000 or more mg of sodium all week and woke up with a splitting sodium headache. This is my biggest struggle with low carb, also if you look at my diary you'll see I'm not as low carb as many on here and it's still difficult for me. We are all so different it's amazing3
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There is such a thing as water toxicity, drinking too much water that you can get sick and even die. If I had kidney pain like you are describing, I would run to the Minute Clinic at CVS and they can tell immediately via a urine test strip if you have a kidney infection. It is nothing to play around with, unless you want to visit the dialysis fun park for the rest of your life.3
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I went to ER 2 months ago with what I thought were kidney stones that turned out to be muscle spasms.... THE PAIN!! Magnesium citrate was the answer for me. I never forget the magnesium now!4
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I went to ER 2 months ago with what I thought were kidney stones that turned out to be muscle spasms.... THE PAIN!! Magnesium citrate was the answer for me. I never forget the magnesium now!
Our insurance is so bad that I would go to the CVS clinic before visiting the ER. A ER visit would cost me thousands of dollars.0 -
Glad to hear that adding sodium seems to be helping. Hyponatremia (water toxicity) can kill you. A local high school football player died of it two years ago, trying to hydrate before a game and overdoing it.
"Drink an ounce of water for every pound you weigh" has no scientific backing. Even half that is still a lot of fluid.
Another possibility to consider is diabetes insipidus. It's not related to high blood sugar, but is caused by deficiency in, or failure of the kidneys to respond to, anti-diuretic hormone.3 -
Agree w/Aquawave....water toxicity can be fatal. Some of my friends drink half their weight in water but never total weight.2
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I had a hard time getting enough salt too. I eventually resorted to adding a small teaspoon of salt to a cup of water each morning. And that's on top of salting my food and coffee.
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@Granchick That's what I've always heard too: half your weight in ounces of water.
I've never intentionally drank a certain amount of water whether it was for losing, maintaining, living. I'm sure I get plenty of liquids though cuz coffee.
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@trish55011, you might want to invest in a good guide(s) to LCHF with a section on carb ntolerance/insulin resistance/diabetes - I consult my go-to faves at least every other day! (The Launch Pad has recs.)2
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My two cents: I have to get closer to 7000 sodium to feel good, no headache. And I'm with Sunny on the water drinking...I don't drink unless I'm thirsty.3
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I cut water consumption way down yesterday, and realized I wasn't as thirsty as I thought I was. I guess I was drinking that much water out of habit. Had about 80-85 oz H2o not counting coffee. And felt just fine. Thanks to all of you for the support. I do not have a Facebook page anymore so MFP has sort of taken its place. Thanks again, Trish6
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Does coffee count as liquid? I always thought it was too diuretic to count towards fluid intake.0
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auntstephie321 wrote: »
Thank you. I regard it as a sort of food, given that I use a healhy dollop of 18% cream in it.
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Someone has probably already mentioned that you should see your doctor, and maybe you already have. If not, urgent care places are usually open on Sundays.0
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Does coffee count as liquid? I always thought it was too diuretic to count towards fluid intake.
For someone who isn't accustomed to caffeine, a single large dose (as in, a couple of hundred milligrams) does act as a diuretic. For those of us who habitually drink coffee or tea, not so much.
Caffeine ingestion and fluid balance
Rehydration with a caffeinated beverage2 -
You might want to double check how much fluid you should actually be drinking. When I was working with a nutritionist, he told me to drink at least 1/2 of you pound weight in ounces. So if you are around 212 lbs you would be drinking closer to 106 ounces or about 13+, 8 oz glasses of liquid.0
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When I was working with a nutritionist, he told me to drink at least 1/2 of you pound weight in ounces.
Runner's World came out with a formula some time back that seems a lot more realistic--and may, unlike the "1/2 oz per pound" theory or the 8 x 8 oz. thing, have some scientific backing behind it: Body weight x .35 for men, body weight * .31 for women (assuming a moderate activity level). So our OP, by that formula, would be drinking 66 oz. per day...coincidentally, just about eight 8-oz cups. A 150-lb. female would need only about 6 cups (48 oz.) a day.
Runner's World: Drink To Your Health1 -
auntstephie321 wrote: »
Thank you. I regard it as a sort of food, given that I use a healhy dollop of 18% cream in it.
That seems perfectly fair!
Now I'm curious.... what's the highest fat % you can get in cream - any idea?0
