I almost lost it today...
Shadowmf023
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So, I know gym instructors aren't the most knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition. They tend to follow whatever recommendation is mainstream in the media (which is why this baffles me so damn much!!!)
When I started at the gym my instructor asked me how I was eating. And I said I did LCHF. She cringed at that. And then I said it was for my gastrointestinal issues (which is partly true, although not the whole truth). And she was fine with it and left it alone.
Today, one of the other members of the group started talking about a recipe she was making. Fish cakes I believe. To which she added egg, flour, and fried in sunflower oil. Said member has also been diagnosed recently with diabetes and high cholesterol.
Then the trainer went on to tell her to avoid eating the egg yolk. Because "bad cholesterol". And talked about how 'healthy' sunflower and canola oil is. All while going on to say "it's amazing how little people know about nutrition..."
My head was all but exploding listening to all this. I didn't say a word. Because I knew my opinion would be a load of b*llsh*t to them.
Later on, we started talking about tea and coffee. I recently bought a chocolate flavoured tea. It's expensive for 15 sachets, although it's delicious. And I mentioned this.
Then the instructor said she doesn't have that money to spend on tea, she'd rather buy herself a box of Lindt chocolates (which happens to be the exact same price as the tea, for 10 chocolates).
On a positive note, the last part of my workout was much more intense, frustration tends to give you a lot more energy.
When I started at the gym my instructor asked me how I was eating. And I said I did LCHF. She cringed at that. And then I said it was for my gastrointestinal issues (which is partly true, although not the whole truth). And she was fine with it and left it alone.
Today, one of the other members of the group started talking about a recipe she was making. Fish cakes I believe. To which she added egg, flour, and fried in sunflower oil. Said member has also been diagnosed recently with diabetes and high cholesterol.
Then the trainer went on to tell her to avoid eating the egg yolk. Because "bad cholesterol". And talked about how 'healthy' sunflower and canola oil is. All while going on to say "it's amazing how little people know about nutrition..."
My head was all but exploding listening to all this. I didn't say a word. Because I knew my opinion would be a load of b*llsh*t to them.
Later on, we started talking about tea and coffee. I recently bought a chocolate flavoured tea. It's expensive for 15 sachets, although it's delicious. And I mentioned this.
Then the instructor said she doesn't have that money to spend on tea, she'd rather buy herself a box of Lindt chocolates (which happens to be the exact same price as the tea, for 10 chocolates).
On a positive note, the last part of my workout was much more intense, frustration tends to give you a lot more energy.
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Shadowmf023 wrote: »So, I know gym instructors aren't the most knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition. They tend to follow whatever recommendation is mainstream in the media (which is why this baffles me so damn much!!!)
When I started at the gym my instructor asked me how I was eating. And I said I did LCHF. She cringed at that. And then I said it was for my gastrointestinal issues (which is partly true, although not the whole truth). And she was fine with it and left it alone.
Today, one of the other members of the group started talking about a recipe she was making. Fish cakes I believe. To which she added egg, flour, and fried in sunflower oil. Said member has also been diagnosed recently with diabetes and high cholesterol.
Then the trainer went on to tell her to avoid eating the egg yolk. Because "bad cholesterol". And talked about how 'healthy' sunflower and canola oil is. All while going on to say "it's amazing how little people know about nutrition..."
My head was all but exploding listening to all this. I didn't say a word. Because I knew my opinion would be a load of b*llsh*t to them.
Later on, we started talking about tea and coffee. I recently bought a chocolate flavoured tea. It's expensive for 15 sachets, although it's delicious. And I mentioned this.
Then the instructor said she doesn't have that money to spend on tea, she'd rather buy herself a box of Lindt chocolates (which happens to be the exact same price as the tea, for 10 chocolates).
On a positive note, the last part of my workout was much more intense, frustration tends to give you a lot more energy.
I concur. My best lifts are fuelled by hatred, rage, and metalcore.
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I never noticed how much people around me in public or at restaurants or anywhere talk about nutrition until I had my own ideas solidified by this woe. Then of course you have that other half of the conversation in your head since it's rude to butt in.... even the imaginary conversation ends in them thinking I'm a nut job about to drop dead of heart attack! 2
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I second that @Sunny_Bunny_ so I do my own reading and research and keep quiet in public unless asked or with friends.1
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I never noticed how much people around me in public or at restaurants or anywhere talk about nutrition until I had my own ideas solidified by this woe. Then of course you have that other half of the conversation in your head since it's rude to butt in.... even the imaginary conversation ends in them thinking I'm a nut job about to drop dead of heart attack!
I used to be a "calories in calories out" kinda girl. I even told that line to my sister's boyfriend, Werner, who'd been LCHF for 3 years. He just smiled at me, as if he knew that one day I'd come around. Now anyone who preaches that line makes me want to punch a wall. Oh the irony.
I mean, it is pretty mainstream that processed oils such as sunflower and canola are NOT healthy, even here in South Africa.
I hate to say this, but I wish my instructor would at least read a nutrition magazine to catch up on bro-science...because she is severely outdated when it comes to it.
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The funny thing is bro-science has been vindicated by studies more often than not. It's often rooted in long standing nutrional knowledge from the oldest days of strongmen like Maxick, Goerner, etc. Back in the days when people had to figure their own *kitten* out, as opposed to study this, study that, blah blah, eat all the protonz and lift heavy things, especially overhead, two-hands anyhow, etc.2
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I have a chocolate coconut macaroon black tea that I love and I don't care what it costs, I will find a way to fit it in...life is too short to skip out on chocolate tea!!!1
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tcunbeliever wrote: »I have a chocolate coconut macaroon black tea that I love and I don't care what it costs, I will find a way to fit it in...life is too short to skip out on chocolate tea!!!
It also has no carbs! So why would you want to skip at all!? 0 -
Shadowmf023 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I never noticed how much people around me in public or at restaurants or anywhere talk about nutrition until I had my own ideas solidified by this woe. Then of course you have that other half of the conversation in your head since it's rude to butt in.... even the imaginary conversation ends in them thinking I'm a nut job about to drop dead of heart attack!
I used to be a "calories in calories out" kinda girl. I even told that line to my sister's boyfriend, Werner, who'd been LCHF for 3 years. He just smiled at me, as if he knew that one day I'd come around. Now anyone who preaches that line makes me want to punch a wall. Oh the irony.
I mean, it is pretty mainstream that processed oils such as sunflower and canola are NOT healthy, even here in South Africa.
I hate to say this, but I wish my instructor would at least read a nutrition magazine to catch up on bro-science...because she is severely outdated when it comes to it.
I think we all were strictly CICO minded at one point or another. I mean, how could we not be? That's how it's taught. It likely will be that way for a very very long time still in mainstream. It's good to be one of the people ahead of the curve now though isn't it?
A very long time ago when my brother in law was dx Diabetic, I made him a birthday cake because we were going to have dinner with him and fam. Anyway, I was so proud of myself for the way I made his cake "healthier". Ya know, that use applesauce instead of oil to reduce fat trick? Instantly Diabetic friendly right? lol
I cringe at my old self now
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Now I want to run out and buy chocolate tea (and help you, um, educate your trainer ). I bought salted caramel tea and it was "meh." 2
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I never noticed how much people around me in public or at restaurants or anywhere talk about nutrition until I had my own ideas solidified by this woe. Then of course you have that other half of the conversation in your head since it's rude to butt in.... even the imaginary conversation ends in them thinking I'm a nut job about to drop dead of heart attack!
I used to be a "calories in calories out" kinda girl. I even told that line to my sister's boyfriend, Werner, who'd been LCHF for 3 years. He just smiled at me, as if he knew that one day I'd come around. Now anyone who preaches that line makes me want to punch a wall. Oh the irony.
I mean, it is pretty mainstream that processed oils such as sunflower and canola are NOT healthy, even here in South Africa.
I hate to say this, but I wish my instructor would at least read a nutrition magazine to catch up on bro-science...because she is severely outdated when it comes to it.
I think we all were strictly CICO minded at one point or another. I mean, how could we not be? That's how it's taught. It likely will be that way for a very very long time still in mainstream. It's good to be one of the people ahead of the curve now though isn't it?
A very long time ago when my brother in law was dx Diabetic, I made him a birthday cake because we were going to have dinner with him and fam. Anyway, I was so proud of myself for the way I made his cake "healthier". Ya know, that use applesauce instead of oil to reduce fat trick? Instantly Diabetic friendly right? lol
I cringe at my old self now
Next time I see Werner I'd have to tell him he was right. Or just be quiet and let him figure it out for himself. Lol, I'm sure it will be clear as day to him when he sees me putting butter in my coffee. (Bulletproof coffee is his staple breakfast)
He's very nice though, so I know he (luckily) won't tell me "I told you so." At least two of us in the family will be doing it now. Lol everyone got nauseated when he did it this past vacation.1 -
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I wish I could find caramel tea here. Or even online somewhere (from a shop in s.a, so I don't have to pay a ridiculous price to have it shipped). It sounds divine.0
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This is kind of how I feel daily on the MFP forum..........
Keep researching and digging into the truth. I love listening to podcasts from top fitness and nutrition experts. Majority have high degrees in the topics and interview PHD's, Olympic coaches, etc. It's like getting to listen in on a chat that would cost you hundreds to go to a conference to hear. A lot of what they say - doesn't agree with the majority of the internet (and MFP's) advice.
Don't be a sheep 5 -
On the subject of tea, we're lucky to have a resident expert. Hopefully @lowjax75 will have time to pop in here later and give us some input. And I find that most teas SMELL better than they taste - plus the tannins in them are a major flare factor for my migraines, so I'm avoiding them more and more these days.0
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This is kind of how I feel daily on the MFP forum..........
Keep researching and digging into the truth. I love listening to podcasts from top fitness and nutrition experts. Majority have high degrees in the topics and interview PHD's, Olympic coaches, etc. It's like getting to listen in on a chat that would cost you hundreds to go to a conference to hear. A lot of what they say - doesn't agree with the majority of the internet (and MFP's) advice.
Don't be a sheep
Shhhhhhh....do not mention the Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
But yes. I agree. Don't be a sheeple.
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baconslave wrote: »This is kind of how I feel daily on the MFP forum..........
Keep researching and digging into the truth. I love listening to podcasts from top fitness and nutrition experts. Majority have high degrees in the topics and interview PHD's, Olympic coaches, etc. It's like getting to listen in on a chat that would cost you hundreds to go to a conference to hear. A lot of what they say - doesn't agree with the majority of the internet (and MFP's) advice.
Don't be a sheep
Shhhhhhh....do not mention the Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
But yes. I agree. Don't be a sheeple.
One of the ways I know I'm LCHF - the sheer amount of irritation and frustration I get just from reading the general forums.2 -
Shadowmf023 wrote: »baconslave wrote: »This is kind of how I feel daily on the MFP forum..........
Keep researching and digging into the truth. I love listening to podcasts from top fitness and nutrition experts. Majority have high degrees in the topics and interview PHD's, Olympic coaches, etc. It's like getting to listen in on a chat that would cost you hundreds to go to a conference to hear. A lot of what they say - doesn't agree with the majority of the internet (and MFP's) advice.
Don't be a sheep
Shhhhhhh....do not mention the Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
But yes. I agree. Don't be a sheeple.
One of the ways I know I'm LCHF - the sheer amount of irritation and frustration I get just from reading the general forums.
Which is pretty weird when you think about it. As much as they like to ride Lyle McDonald and Alan Aragon's *kitten*, you'd think they'd at least read everything the guys have to say, instead of cherry picking.1 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »baconslave wrote: »This is kind of how I feel daily on the MFP forum..........
Keep researching and digging into the truth. I love listening to podcasts from top fitness and nutrition experts. Majority have high degrees in the topics and interview PHD's, Olympic coaches, etc. It's like getting to listen in on a chat that would cost you hundreds to go to a conference to hear. A lot of what they say - doesn't agree with the majority of the internet (and MFP's) advice.
Don't be a sheep
Shhhhhhh....do not mention the Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
But yes. I agree. Don't be a sheeple.
One of the ways I know I'm LCHF - the sheer amount of irritation and frustration I get just from reading the general forums.
Which is pretty weird when you think about it. As much as they like to ride Lyle McDonald and Alan Aragon's *kitten*, you'd think they'd at least read everything the guys have to say, instead of cherry picking.
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Be proud you were practicing a brand new muscle -- it's called the restraint muscle. Go you!2
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baconslave wrote: »--mod hat--
Second and last warning. Please re-read the Group Expectations in full.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10184341/please-read-group-expectations#latestPlease note that...the following things can't be tolerated here in our group.
Posts talking about other members and how they irritate you or wishing harm upon them.
Insulting nicknames.
Posts complaining about the general forums.
Any links to discussions in the main forums.
Posts complaining or insulting the moderation decisions in the main area or any of the moderators.
Reposting any private messages or personal discussions in the group.
MFP has made it very clear that this is not acceptable in Groups.
Don't make me delete the thread, please.
ETA: You can complain about non-LCHF people in general (because they can be very annoying sometimes), but not any MFP members or forums.
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