Red meat, bad?

LolaDeeDaisy23
LolaDeeDaisy23 Posts: 383 Member
edited December 3 in Social Groups
My husband has been on me about eating LCHF and its sustainability. He said it can't be healthy to eat so much red meat and there are studies that say it causes cancer and other illnesses? Thoughts?

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  • RowdysLady
    RowdysLady Posts: 1,370 Member
    Counter with your own studies. There are plenty out there to show LCHF works. I am sure some of the data gurus here will have some links for you.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I think those claims are overblown, and part of it comes down to how that meat is prepared and cooked. Processed meats with nitrates will bring your risk of (colon?) cancer up to 6% from 5%. ;)

    The Masai and Inuit had better health when almost carnivores than they have today... Maybe look up Steffanson (sp?) who ate carnivore after living with the inuit over a 100 years ago. It improved his health.
  • LolaDeeDaisy23
    LolaDeeDaisy23 Posts: 383 Member
    I've read there is no hard evidence that unprocessed red meat causes cancer. But "there are studies that show" people who eat processed red meat (bacon, ground beef, salami) are at a 20% increased risk for cancer, etc.

    There are other studies that say this is all correlation and not necessarily causation.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    Oh geez! Your husband has read some flashy headlines that keep going around.
    He's simply wrong.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited September 2016
    I've read there is no hard evidence that unprocessed red meat causes cancer. But "there are studies that show" people who eat processed red meat (bacon, ground beef, salami) are at a 20% increased risk for cancer, etc.

    There are other studies that say this is all correlation and not necessarily causation.

    Exactly! You are at 5% risk of cancer before eating processed meats. 20% increased risk, of that initial 5% risk, is just 1%. 1% + 5% = 6%, and not 25% as some people fear.

    %5 vs. 6% isn't a big deal in my mind. ;) I'd risk bacon for that.

    Editted because I seem to make no sense today.
  • ketold727
    ketold727 Posts: 21 Member
    I believe the link is really with IGF Wichita is linked to cancer. Problem with a study in was shown is that all it showed was that high amounts of red meats combined with carbs causes IGF to rise more than just carbs with low red meat.
    Not very conclusive for me.
    It doesn't take that much red meat to get to the 75 to 80 g of protein.
  • esjones12
    esjones12 Posts: 1,363 Member
    I clicked awesome, but @Dragonwolf deserves a post saying how awesome that answer was. Love it!

    I personally have switched to all local, organic, grass-fed meats and have started choosing brands that practice nose-to-tail consumption. I feel making those types of choices each day is way more powerful than casting my vote once every 4 years. #justsaying
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 3,697 Member
    I really agree with Dragonwolf. I live in Colorado, so bison, elk, and venison are readily available. I do however love wild caught Alaskan fish. I will buy grass fed steaks from time to time but usually it is bison.

    Life is short, eat what makes you happy.
  • Sarahb29
    Sarahb29 Posts: 952 Member
    Processed meats like ground beef, ground chicken, or bacon are the ones being debated IIRC. You can always go to a local butcher or farmer to get something fresh that hasn't been processed with any chemicals, or get a hunting license and hunt your own animals if you're really concerned about it. If none of that works you can do low carb vegetarian or low carb vegan diets.
  • Sarahb29
    Sarahb29 Posts: 952 Member
    1000 internet points for @Dragonwolf s post.
  • LolaDeeDaisy23
    LolaDeeDaisy23 Posts: 383 Member
    Found a link that discusses the invalidity in the cancer vs red meat debate for those who are interested in reading!

    https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
  • Aquawave
    Aquawave Posts: 260 Member
    edited September 2016
    Does anyone know what is it about red meat that "they" say supposedly causes cancer? Corn fed vs grass fed? Isn't bison a red meat? Are bison fed corn to fatten up? Just speculating here, when we can afford it we eat corn fed rib eyes of the Angus.

    Edited to add after reading the article. Ah, TMAO produced by gut bacteria. I think "they" are wrong here.
  • LauraCoth
    LauraCoth Posts: 303 Member
    I'm much more of a meat eater than I used to be. Locally we can get grass-fed, antibiotic and hormone-free beef, bison, pork and even water buffalo, so we do eat red meat once a week or so. Our local grovery store also sells antibiotic and hormone-free bacon, which is nice.
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