Aaaand it finally happened :(
JessicaMcB
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Over my weight loss journey I've had people make the odd innocuous comment about LC after they've asked me to explain "what I'm doing" to them (I am hesitant to talk about it because I am aware of how low carb is generally perceived). Today, in a small group I'm in, a big IIFYM pushing female body builder I know posts this SCATHING article about low carb and essentially implies that LC is guaranteed to fail and leave you with terrible body comp.
...She knows I'm the only low carber in the group
. I've lost 90lbs, I'm running marathon length, why the need to delegitimize what I've done? She used to be obese too! I know our fitness goals are miles apart but I've always tried to compliment her on her physique gains because I know how hard she works at it and how mean people can be to women who bulk.
Just lousy and I have no where low carb friendly to really share this
...She knows I'm the only low carber in the group
. I've lost 90lbs, I'm running marathon length, why the need to delegitimize what I've done? She used to be obese too! I know our fitness goals are miles apart but I've always tried to compliment her on her physique gains because I know how hard she works at it and how mean people can be to women who bulk.Just lousy and I have no where low carb friendly to really share this
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I think it's lousy too....Weight loss and even working on being health conscious is so much easier if we can get support from others around us. Not sure why some people persist on being negative. Most likely she is jealous of you in some respect. The older I get the more I tend to just distance myself from negativity. It's not worth it....7
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Its possible she's simply insensitive and had no idea you would be bothered by it. Its also possible she's just a jerk being a jerk. I think I'd say something to her, but also be prepared for her not to care what I think.4
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There is no one size fits all approach to diet or exercise. Genetics will play a part in what is successful for each person along with personality type and motivation level. About the only thing that is universal is no one should be eating all the processed carbage out there (i.e. white flour, donuts, processed sugar, HFCS, etc.) and most people should be moving more even if it is not an actual exercise regimen.
Unfortunately, humans seem to get stuck in the mindset of "it works for me so it must work for everyone and therefore anyone who refuses and decides to do something else must be stupid." There are people in the LCHF world who also have this problem. There are people who, no matter how high their carb intake, will never become insulin resistant. There are people who are successful with low fat. There are people successful with vegan (although very difficult because some nutrients like B-12 are ONLY found in animal products so supplements are a must).
I think I was fortunate in that I was never part of the "in crowd" growing up. Being in a military family I averaged moving every 2 years so I was nearly always the outsider. I think that helped me with developing the shrug it off mentality regarding what other people think a bit better than most. That does not mean nothing bothers me. It just means I realized the importance of not hanging my self-esteem on what others think a little sooner. Still working on it not bothering me at all.
That said, I am also quite sarcastic, so it would be hard for me not to say something in front of many witnesses to this person to the effect that "I'm glad you opened my eyes to the fact that the diet I chose that got me to lose 90 lbs and able to run a marathon is bad for me. Silly me. I thought with results like that, it surely must have been a good thing."8 -
Not sure why you are letting this bother you. What someone thinks about you is not your business. Empower yourself to live your life on YOUR TERMS. You owe NO ONE an explanation of what you are doing for YOU. Throw up the W for "whatever" and keep it moving. Your validation needs to come from within.
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Low carb is never recieved well by people who don't understand. Just like there is a science behind IIFYM, there's a science behind low carb. I've had people tell me stupid crap at work but guess what? What I'm doing works! What YOU'RE doing works for YOU. I will never understand why people comment on things that don't concern them. You have plenty of supportive people on this site!! Losing 90 pounds is amazing.2
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Be who you are and do what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter won't mind. --(paraphrased slightly from Dr. Seuss)5
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Well I scoped out your profile pictures and your body comp is not terrible in the least. You aren't overtly muscular which I assume is the woman in question's preferred physique but you aren't skinny fat or bad looking in any way. In fact I think your body comp probably matches your goals as a marathoner. Perhaps she's jealous that you've obtained your ideal and hers is harder going?1
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@JessicaMcB - I'd probably tell her that you also follow an IIFYM program - you just have medical requirements that set your macros differently that hers. I'd laugh it off and leave her to be upset. If it works for you, find a description that you are comfortable with and just share that. "I gave up the whites - sugars and grains." "I follow a more balanced plan that works for me." "This meal does fit my macros, quite perfectly in fact." "I'm glad your plan works for you. I'm just thankful that there are so many dietary options out there, because we all know that no one thing every works for everyone!" Or somesuch...4
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I always hate it when someone says "there's no reason to do low carb unless you have a medical reason or your doctor told you to". I didn't have any medical reason. I just wanted to lose weight and break my sugar addiction. Then I discovered what actual health felt like! I had no idea my small time issues could be affected by diet! I'm so glad I didn't come across some negative Nellie like her before I started. I might have thought she knows what she's talking about and it may have stopped me from making the best decision ever.3
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She's either rude or forgot or didn't know you were still on LCHF. Regardless, I wouldn't give it another thought. She probably just read some article on that struck a note with her and wanted to proselytize the message. I doubt she remembered you live the LC life.
Plus, you're getting results you want so just blow this off.3 -
Well, you know she is dead wrong about this. LC has worked for plenty of us, yourself included, so methinks her opinion is worth about as much as her belly button lint.JessicaMcB wrote: ». . .a big IIFYM pushing female body builder I know posts this SCATHING article about low carb and essentially implies that LC is guaranteed to fail and leave you with terrible body comp.
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Thanks all, I'm going to let it lie because there is no changing her mind anyway, just needed to vent the suck to people who may have experienced the same.2
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lol I commented on a post in the main forum the other day explaining the relationship between carbs and insulin and fat storage. Just a general comment mind you, not debunking anyone elses comments or having a go and one chick took it upon herself to PM me and abuse me outright calling me a stupid *kitten* and much worse. Completely unprovoked and it kept going until I googled how to block people on MFP. Geez ... some people.5
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EbonyDahlia wrote: »lol I commented on a post in the main forum the other day explaining the relationship between carbs and insulin and fat storage. Just a general comment mind you, not debunking anyone elses comments or having a go and one chick took it upon herself to PM me and abuse me outright calling me a stupid *kitten* and much worse. Completely unprovoked and it kept going until I googled how to block people on MFP. Geez ... some people.
I once had a woman PM me to accost me for criticizing Arby's in the food forum. I laughed a lot that day
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Wow, you guys are making me glad I only read/post on this forum!1
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I am so sorry. I think she's dumb and full of crap. I used to do iifym. My protein target was set for lbm, my fat was a minimum target to hit for hormone function, my carbs filled the gaps....juuuust like LCHF with the switch to higher fat for fat adaption purposes and the subsequent lowering of carbs.
Ugh. I'm sorry someone made you feel like that.2 -
There always been Luddites, Flat-earthers, and Wet Blankets.
In the galaxy of Nay-sayers, some draw comfort in clinging to simple, accepted ways of explaining things, while sad-sacks dwell on patently unimportant details and could suck the fun out of an orgy (but would never have the opportunity).
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I'd be thinking to myself, "Confidence is Silent". Either that or "BITE ME".
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"Living well is the best revenge."3
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Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.3 -
baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
Voldemort's lare?
Sorry, my daughter is a HUGE Harry Potter fan - as in read the series 9 times now and she is only 11. 5 -
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I stopped reading at this... "I've lost 90lbs" !!! BooYah...
Talk and posts can just be... blah blah blah. Hit delete and keep smiling. Seems you found something that works for you.3 -
baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
I think it's okay to mention where I was subject to this abuse in a general context.
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Yeah, JessicaMcB because a 90 lb loss and marathoning is such a huge fail bwahahah. I'd just lift an eyebrow and snicker loudly behind my hand, preferably when you are both in the presence of others. If it's only on posts, you could put it this way.... *raises one eyebrow and snickers behind hand*
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cstehansen wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
Voldemort's lare? Sorry, my daughter is a HUGE Harry Potter fan - as in read the series 9 times now and she is only 11.
Well, I'm 37, what on earth is my excuse? Oh, I was a children's librarian at one time and my oldest daughter was obsessed for a time as well. I'm a complete fantasy nerd anyway. I have all 8 movies on Blu-Ray.2 -
baconslave wrote: »cstehansen wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
Voldemort's lare? Sorry, my daughter is a HUGE Harry Potter fan - as in read the series 9 times now and she is only 11.
Well, I'm 37, what on earth is my excuse? Oh, I was a children's librarian at one time and my oldest daughter was obsessed for a time as well. I'm a complete fantasy nerd anyway. I have all 8 movies on Blu-Ray.
We have all 8 movies as well. Got most of them used from a Blockbuster when they went belly up. It irritated my daughter because starting with #4 most are rated PG-13 and we wouldn't let her watch them yet because she was only 9. At that point, she had already read them all about 4-5 times. We limit how often she is allowed to read the series now to once every few months to keep her from getting too obsessed.1 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
I think it's okay to mention where I was subject to this abuse in a general context.
I wish that were the case. But we were told to not talk about the main forums at all. It opens the door for discussing the problems there, which in turn opens the door for drama. Not allowed. It's not my call, so whether or not I (or anyone else) feel/s one way or another about it, it doesn't change how MFP feels about it. I can't let it ride; it endangers the group.
Sorry guys.1 -
cstehansen wrote: »baconslave wrote: »cstehansen wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Please do not mention The-Place-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Is bad juju.
Voldemort's lare? Sorry, my daughter is a HUGE Harry Potter fan - as in read the series 9 times now and she is only 11.
Well, I'm 37, what on earth is my excuse? Oh, I was a children's librarian at one time and my oldest daughter was obsessed for a time as well. I'm a complete fantasy nerd anyway. I have all 8 movies on Blu-Ray.
We have all 8 movies as well. Got most of them used from a Blockbuster when they went belly up. It irritated my daughter because starting with #4 most are rated PG-13 and we wouldn't let her watch them yet because she was only 9. At that point, she had already read them all about 4-5 times. We limit how often she is allowed to read the series now to once every few months to keep her from getting too obsessed.
Well, I wouldn't allow mine to read past the 4th book until she was 11 because as it goes on, there are topics better suited to children that age. I think she saw the movies when she was 12, maybe almost 13. Harry has to deal with death, then teenage hormones, angst and uses some language. So she got mad at me, but it's my job. Some kids are more sensitive to violence. But I felt at that age she could handle it even though she wasn't yet 13.
She's 14 now, and I just allowed her to read the Hunger Games finally.
It's hard to find reading material for teens. Some of it is just so inappropriate these days...
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@JessicaMcB I think BeautyDoll is right. It isn't any of our business what another person thinks of us. That said, it is painful when someone says something publicly. Your success speaks for itself, and you did it on your terms with what you know works for you. Chalk it up to either an insensitive person or a clueless person.
And just to validate what you did, I had my cardiology yearly checkup yesterday. I've lost weight, my labs are looking pretty darn good and my cardiologist (who is chubby, hehehe), told me to "keep doing what you're doing. It's working". That from a cardiologist!
Although I did have to laugh when I picked up the printout they give you of your appt. One line said to "Follow a low fat, low cholesterol, low sodium, high fiber diet." I'm sure that auto prints, but it made me giggle. Especially the low sodium. I have to drink salt water to keep my electrolytes in line. Ha! Oh, and my bp was 110/70.
So a low carb WOE must be pretty darn good for some of us and that includes you!
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