Mct oil

jenngerpeacox
jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
edited November 2024 in Social Groups
Any suggestions on brand ($$$ is a factor)? What does everyone use it for, how much, etc? Are they all thermogenic as NOW claims to be, and what does that mean exactly? Newbie at this, but interested!

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  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,890 Member
    I use NOW. I don't know a ton about the different brands, just followed recs I got here. ;) I just recently started putting it in my a.m. coffee again (along with HWC and usually some vanilla and/or SF syrup) and it does seem to help with energy and focus.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    If you're hoping for an increase in fat loss from using it, I would just skip it. It's not going to cause any faster rate of fat loss.
    If you're wanting a bit of a ketone boost for energy and maybe a bit of appetite suppression, then you'll probably be happy with any brand that is at least a mix of C8 and C10 fatty acids. I know Left Coast is one... let me take a look at NOW and get back to you. I once researched the exact contents of several brands to find the one I wanted but now I don't recall which ones had what except the one I chose.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    edited January 2017
    Ok. NOW and Left Coast seem to be about the same price and both offer 7.8g C8 and 6.2g C10 per tablespoon. Now shows being sourced from glycerin, coconut and palm kernel oil if that matters at all. Left Coast is sourced from coconut and palm oil.

    Brands like Carrington Farms are about half the price and often available on the shelf at bigger stores. This one has 4.3g lauric acid C12, 4.2g caprylic acid C8, 3.4g capric acid C10 per tablespoon. Another brand with the same fatty acid concentration is Buried Treasure. I don't recall the sourcing on those. Not all even provide that info and I don't know how much that matters anyway.

    The shorter the fatty acid chain length, the faster acting it is for energy. C8 would be faster than C12.
    For reference, Dave Asprey's Brain Octane is 15g C8 and the one I use is 13.8g C8 but they are about twice the cost of the middle ground ones like NOW and Left Coast.

    I just remembered Buried Treasure is all sourced from coconut oil.
    And palm oil and palm kernel oil aren't the same thing if source matters to you. Some like the comment below me don't like palm oil but the kernel is different and I know some of those same people don't have issue with it.
  • SymbolismNZ
    SymbolismNZ Posts: 190 Member
    Brand doesn't matter, so long as it's not contaminated with palm oil, I myself use Metaphysics but have also used Onnit in the past, both are made strictly from coconuts.

    From a weight loss persective... MCT is a high calorie oil (10ml = 100 cal) and if you're on a deficit and find yourself hungry often, it definitely won't be helpful to you (although some indicate that increased fats lower appetite, I'm not so sure)

    From a wellness perspective, even thinking outside of (highly important) ketone boost/macronutrient ratios that you might want to hit, it has benefits for your brain, benefits for your skin, benefits for your digestive system, benefits for your gut bacteria, benefits to your immune functions,
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    @jenngerpeacox - FYI, I just bümped a couple related threads.
  • jenngerpeacox
    jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
    Thank you everyone! Appetite suppression and energy are my main concerns. I didn't know of all the other added benefits and will definitely look into the related threads, thanks for that RalfLott!
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    @jenngerpeacox - A lot of people seem to think that fat is a good appetite shrinker, but I think the bulk makes high-protein foods more effective.

    Since it's a good idea to spread your daily quotient of protein across your meals anyhow, perhaps you could time your protein doses according to times you'd expect to be hungry. ??
  • jenngerpeacox
    jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    @jenngerpeacox - A lot of people seem to think that fat is a good appetite shrinker, but I think the bulk makes high-protein foods more effective.

    Since it's a good idea to spread your daily quotient of protein across your meals anyhow, perhaps you could time your protein doses according to times you'd expect to be hungry. ??

    You are right, I probably need to watch this a little closer and I am wondering if I need to be eating more protein....I'm averaging 20% or 75 g per day, but today I noticed I only hit 17% and I'm sure there have been other days that were lower. I guess I've been trying to not eat too much protein so as not to throw off my macros too much.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    @jenngerpeacox - A lot of people seem to think that fat is a good appetite shrinker, but I think the bulk makes high-protein foods more effective.

    Since it's a good idea to spread your daily quotient of protein across your meals anyhow, perhaps you could time your protein doses according to times you'd expect to be hungry. ??

    You are right, I probably need to watch this a little closer and I am wondering if I need to be eating more protein....I'm averaging 20% or 75 g per day, but today I noticed I only hit 17% and I'm sure there have been other days that were lower. I guess I've been trying to not eat too much protein so as not to throw off my macros too much.

    My suggestion would be not to pay attention to % but track grams per day - since the amount is fat you choose to consume should have no effect on your carb ceiling or protein range.

    You can use a handy keto-calculator - check the LCD LaunchPad sticky for references.

    (I tend to aim toward the higher end of the protein range. Though I'm diabetic and don't want to overdo protein, I also don't want to lose any more muscle mass.)
  • jenngerpeacox
    jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »

    You can use a handy keto-calculator - check the LCD LaunchPad sticky for references.

    (I tend to aim toward the higher end of the protein range. Though I'm diabetic and don't want to overdo protein, I also don't want to lose any more muscle mass.)

    Thanks for the tips (awesome!) and calculator- going to check it out right now.
    I haven't been paying attention to any of my macros grams just the % - even on fat, your wisdom and knowledge have been graciously accepted
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    edited January 2017
    I use unrefined virgin coconut oil. I'm pretty happy with it. Makes my pan-sauteed salmon and turkey burgers taste amazing.

    ETA: I also use refined (cold/expeller-pressed) kind, too, for things I don't want tasting like coconut. I'd say I use them equally. My fats of choice are, in this order: Butter, refined/unrefined coconut oil, pork/bacon fat, avocado oil, olive oil, chicken fat aka schmaltz.
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    Jimmy Moore just interviewed the guy who founded Keto MCT because he said he was super impressed with how he broke down the science behind his product. He says there are a lot of MCT oils which include various length chains as "Medium Chain Triglycerides" but that really only the C8 convert almost immediately to ketones.

    https://ketomct.com/

    This is NOT my endorsement. I have not yet used it. I just listened to the podcast this morning. I noticed there is a link to the Livin La Vida Low Carb podcast on this website.
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    As an add-on, he said if you are one of the people who seem to have reflux type issues when taking MCT, you should take it with solid food, preferably something with natural fat. Taking it just in liquid form, like in a smoothie, will make this negative side effect more likely.
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    cstehansen wrote: »
    Jimmy Moore just interviewed the guy who founded Keto MCT because he said he was super impressed with how he broke down the science behind his product. He says there are a lot of MCT oils which include various length chains as "Medium Chain Triglycerides" but that really only the C8 convert almost immediately to ketones.

    https://ketomct.com/

    This is NOT my endorsement. I have not yet used it. I just listened to the podcast this morning. I noticed there is a link to the Livin La Vida Low Carb podcast on this website.

    Would you keep us posted if you tried this?
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    bjwoodzy wrote: »
    cstehansen wrote: »
    Jimmy Moore just interviewed the guy who founded Keto MCT because he said he was super impressed with how he broke down the science behind his product. He says there are a lot of MCT oils which include various length chains as "Medium Chain Triglycerides" but that really only the C8 convert almost immediately to ketones.

    https://ketomct.com/

    This is NOT my endorsement. I have not yet used it. I just listened to the podcast this morning. I noticed there is a link to the Livin La Vida Low Carb podcast on this website.

    Would you keep us posted if you tried this?

    I'm pretty stocked up right now because of picking of several bottles on clearance recently. I don't use it that often since I really try to get the bulk of my calories from real food. I don't expect to be getting any more for quite some time. Sorry.
  • DietPrada
    DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
    Keto 4 years. Did the whole coconut MTC thing for the first year or so, then stopped. No noticeable difference with or without.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    cstehansen wrote: »
    Jimmy Moore just interviewed the guy who founded Keto MCT because he said he was super impressed with how he broke down the science behind his product. He says there are a lot of MCT oils which include various length chains as "Medium Chain Triglycerides" but that really only the C8 convert almost immediately to ketones.

    https://ketomct.com/

    This is NOT my endorsement. I have not yet used it. I just listened to the podcast this morning. I noticed there is a link to the Livin La Vida Low Carb podcast on this website.

    This product is the same 15g per tablespoon C8 dosage as Brain Octane for less. At least as of last time I checked his price.
    It's a slightly higher dose than the one I've been using that used to be cheaper until I sent them like a hundred new customers from this group! Lol then the price shot up!
    So now, this one appears to be the cheapest and highest dose C8 available at the moment.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    I'm taking mine mainly for brain food, lol. 2 Tbsp on empty stomach, (after 14 hrs IF) no gastro probs at all. BTW, someone asked about how long a container should be good for after opening. My can says 6 months on the side.
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    @cstehansen Oh. Welp. I'm not THAT let down. Lol.

    I was just interested to see if anyone here in our MFP realm would / has tried it and what they thought. I'm a dork and like research.
  • jenngerpeacox
    jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
    I have the buried treasure brand MCT and just started using the tsp dose in my coffee in the morn to stave off hunger while I get the kids fed and settled until I have time to make some food for myself. So far it has done its job. With my morning routine I normally end up IF for 14-16 hours before I even get my coffee, sometimes a little longer. I did try some butter (not grass fed) this morning in addition to the MCT in my coffee and it was totally gross.
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