Living The Lifestyle, Monday, July 17, 2017
88olds
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Everyone says it, but just how do you do it? How do you take the guidelines of the WW program and turn them into a lifestyle you can live every day...from now on? That is what we are here to explore. Each weekday, a new topic is offered up for discussion. Newbie? Join in! Veteran? Join in! Your thoughts may be just what someone else needs to hear.
Monday -- 88olds
Tuesday -- whathapnd (Emmie)
Wednesday --David Kuhns
Thursday -- Rachel0778
Friday -- misterhub
Today's topic: Time, time time
See what's become of me
I'm just back from an excursion to the Motivation & Support board. It's a jungle out there. My common advice there is "Calculate a modest calorie deficit, establish a livable downward trend, and prepare to spend the time to allow the process to work." Nobody wants to spend the time. If the conventional wisdom on WL is a 1/2 to 2lb loss per week, it seems like everyone plugs in 2 lbs per week. And then when it doesn't happen, they drive the bus into the ditch.
How do you, or have you dealt with the time factor in weight loss? How do/did you control your expectations? Keep from sinking in the muck of disappointment? Why can't we wiggle our noses and wake up thin?
Monday -- 88olds
Tuesday -- whathapnd (Emmie)
Wednesday --David Kuhns
Thursday -- Rachel0778
Friday -- misterhub
Today's topic: Time, time time
See what's become of me
I'm just back from an excursion to the Motivation & Support board. It's a jungle out there. My common advice there is "Calculate a modest calorie deficit, establish a livable downward trend, and prepare to spend the time to allow the process to work." Nobody wants to spend the time. If the conventional wisdom on WL is a 1/2 to 2lb loss per week, it seems like everyone plugs in 2 lbs per week. And then when it doesn't happen, they drive the bus into the ditch.
How do you, or have you dealt with the time factor in weight loss? How do/did you control your expectations? Keep from sinking in the muck of disappointment? Why can't we wiggle our noses and wake up thin?
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Starting at 285 lbs, working on my own, and following the initial 10 lb drop, I was losing about 3.5 lbs per month. But it was just kind of falling away. My WL life was easy living.
Then, like a lot of guys I decided it was time to "get into shape." But the way I went about it, weight training was incompatible with weight loss. Time passed. I had a health issue. Training was disrupted. I was happy not gaining but nagging myself to lose. Started training again.
By now I had a personal trainer coming to the house who would leave me face down on the floor at the end of the sessions. In 3 months I lost 3 lbs. If I stayed at it just 8 more months I could make my goal of 204lbs that I'd dreamed of for years. Not happening.
I decided to embrace the number on the scale. Joined WW. Blew through the 204lb goal and ended up at about what I weighed when I graduated high school, about 178lbs.
In the end I spent about as much time losing as I did gaining.
I think I tolerated the time because I had gotten a lot of benefits from the losses I had and I wasn't gaining. My CPAP was gone, HBP gone, no way was I going back to that. Also, even though my training program was not a weight loss strategy, it had a lot of mental benefits.
I tolerated my time on WW because it was working. I never had a legit WW plateau.1 -
I'm at a standstill and I recognize it's because summer is a hard season for me and I've been sabotaging myself on the weekends. But I also recognize tracking is what keeps me from gaining more back. As long as I'm still trying I'm not failing. Throwing in the towel is not an option, but picking myself back up and trying again is!1
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Rachel0778 wrote: »I'm at a standstill and I recognize it's because summer is a hard season for me and I've been sabotaging myself on the weekends. But I also recognize tracking is what keeps me from gaining more back. As long as I'm still trying I'm not failing. Throwing in the towel is not an option, but picking myself back up and trying again is!
Yup! That's me.1 -
I didn't have time to get impatient when I was losing. I dropped 60 lbs. in three months, blowing past my WW goal and into Lifetime status. I have been less satisfied with the pace of loss during some adjustment periods over the years since. It still just comes down to embracing this as a lifestyle, rather than a diet.1
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I also am at a standstill. I was losing for a while, then hit a plateau. I am tracking. So, I am guessing my measuring and weighing are off a bit.
Losing weight takes time. I have done it twice previously. But, there are times when it is, indeed, frustrating.
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How do/did I deal with time while losing?? Fortunately I took my mind away from the "horrors/fear" that time and goal specifics can bring. I joined WW unplanned & unexpectedly with friends on a morning bike ride. No clue about how much or how long.. I knew WW was sensible and focsed on day to day learning. Lots of small out of bounds moments but kept them as that and not long torrid excursions bedeviled by the mistress of food & spirits.
Time comes and goes. I might not have started looking ahead to the big picture.2 -
Summers are often "harder" for me too. I too (common) started at a bit too fast and slowed to more a crawl by the time I approached a healthy weight so I pronounced that my goal. Maybe due to age but I didn't worry about loss rate or exact amount.0
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The question:
How do you, or have you dealt with the time factor in weight loss? How do/did you control your expectations? Keep from sinking in the muck of disappointment? Why can't we wiggle our noses and wake up thin?
Fantastic topic!
Although I keep my end goal somewhere in the back of my head, I really try to focus on losing just 1 lb this week, and that's it... if that isn't working, then I break it down to just dealing with getting through TODAY - I don't need to worry about my week if I can make the right choices today. If it's still bugging me... then I don't need to focus on my whole day... I need to plan and execute my next meal. Or my next workout. Or getting to bed on time.
My philosophy: I will get there by focusing on TODAY... it's the only day that matters.
Also: Worry comes from inaction. If I have energy to worry and be disappointed, then I should be doing something about it.
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I think its human nature -- we've ignored our weight until it became intolerable. And then we want it gone now, Now, NOW! So I don't fault people for being optimistic and setting things up for 2#/week. I do fault them for driving the bus into a ditch when reality doesn't meet their hopes.
When I started, it sure seemed like my goal was at the horizon, and no matter how many steps I took, the horizon was still very distant. I found that too discouraging. I started paying attention to nearer goals, like just the next mile marker. Or some day, just looking at my sneakers and putting one foot in front of the other. Now when I look up, I see that I have passed many milestones along the way, and in fact my goal is no longer at the horizon even if its still somewhat distant. Then I go back to looking at my shoes or the scale I'm weighing my food on, and just judging my progress by how adherent I am that day. Eventually I'll get to my goal weight, but I'm no longer concerned with the rate.
I should say that last year when I didn't know I was T1D, I started losing quite dramatically, up to 5 or 6#/week. Lots of people said they wished they could lose that fast, but believe me, I don't wish that on anyone. I felt like crap, lost muscle strength, and eventually was hospitalized. I'm happy to back to losing 0.5-1#/week now.
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When I rejoined WW for the umpteenth time (no exaggeration) in 2002, I decided that I didn't care how long it took me to get back to goal. What I wanted was to keep the weight off this time around. I didn't want to change my life to fit WW. I wanted to fit WW into MY life.
Seeing that I needed to lose 55 pounds to get back to my goal weight was just too daunting. I knew I could lose 5 pounds -- I had done it HUNDREDS of times. So I set my "goal weight" at 5 pounds below my starting weight. When I lost that 5 pounds, I set another goal of 5 pounds. And I continued to do that until I was finally back at goal. There were times when I didn't lose 5 pounds in a month or even two months. But over time it came off.
It took me 22 months to lose 55 pounds (an average of 2.5 pounds a MONTH!) and, until two years ago, I was at or below goal. Since that time I've been as much as 10 pounds above goal. I'm happy to say that, as of this morning, I was exactly at my goal weight!
It's taken a lot of work and two years to drop that 10 pounds. Because of some back/nerve issues, I'm not able to be as active as I was ten years ago so I've had to accept the fact that I'm going to have to adjust my food to make up for that. In addition, I was put on a BP medicine a little over a year ago that has a side effect of weight gain <sigh>.
My next goal for myself is to get back to my lowest weight -- which was 129 (11 pounds) in 2014. So I'm back to the "losing 5 pounds" plan. It may take me another year (or two) to lose those 11 pounds, but it doesn't matter. It's just time!
As a wise GOADie once told me, time is going to pass. You might as well be doing something productive with it.4 -
It sure is easy to want the weight to come off fast. I'm just as guilty as the next guy about wanting it to happen quickly. What I learned after my last loss was that it is better to have lost and retained that loss than to say ef it and regain the weight.
So I'm sticking with the slow and steady route which will have its share of ups and downs. I'm looking for the general trend to be down, but I'm not putting a time limit on it. As long as I continue to be mindful, the weight will take care of itself and I will be healthier tomorrow than I am today.2 -
I had many successful WW memberships but NEVER changed my Lifestyle. So the pounds came back plus more and as I got older I just quit trying. Ended up near 400 pounds! (SW 376 in 2013)
Dealing with the Time Factor over the past four and a half years has been an issue BUT I have learned to deal with it by looking BACK at my past failed attempts when I quit going to WW meetings and gaining back what I had lost PLUS more.
My losses by year
2013 60
2014. 32
2015. 16
after losing 100# my goal was to NOT GAIN! Yo yo WIs but did not gain.
2016. SP Program, I decided to TRY to lose 52 pounds in 52 weeks, I Lost 36
2017 I have lost 26, (goal pound a week)
NOW when time dragsI look FORWARD to goals and to have reasons to keep going
Now at 205.2 I can see Onederland from my front porch!
I will earn my -175# WW Charm when I lose four more pounds and weigh 201,
My BMI will no longer be obese when I get to 196 (5'8")
If/when I get to 188# I will weigh half of my SW!
186 would be A Goal I could live with, that would be minus 190#
Next February I turn 70 I plan to CELEBRATE being at or near goal.2 -
This aspect is one in which finding GOAD very early in my journey was extremely helpful. When I first joined WW, I spent some time in the GOAD archives and got some insight into the fact that weight loss wasn't linear. But, I also learned if I kept at it, I'd get the results--that the plan would work if I worked it.
Ironically, in my first week or two at WW meetings, I observed people way more tied into the scale number than I wanted to be. For myself, I knew that I was eating 'unchecked' for so many years, this was my first real attempt to bring some self-control to the situation. Like turning a ship around, I realized weight loss wasn't going to happen overnight but I knew the change in my intake couldn't help but get me where I wanted to go. What I did not want was for my mood and personality to hinge on what the scale said, so I followed the GOAD advice and exercised patience. After a short while, the ship slowed and even turned!
I initially had to do some mental gymnastics to realize goal wasn't goal. Sure, it was a number to shoot for, but again, thanks to GOAD archives, I realized I wasn't going to be done when I reached goal. In fact, I would just be entering the (hopefully) much longer phase of maintenance. That reality took the pressure off reaching goal. Slow and steady, up and down on the scale, but trending in the right direction became just fine for me. I embraced the reality that it wasn't a race and became entirely satisfied with focusing on my behavior around food. I learned about some of my motivations and triggers. For me, it was a far more productive place to focus than the number on the scale.
Now on maintenance, it's more a lifestyle than it was but it's still nothing I take for granted. I know it will work if I keep working it. Equally important, I know the opposite is also true. I still take things one day at a time. I allow a little buffer so there's still room for the occasional enjoyment of life or spontaneous celebration. But I know I have to be mindful day after day. I don't view it as a chore because I appreciate all the benefits that have come with weight loss. However, I don't believe the in the phrase 'gone forever'. It's gone for as long as I'm mindful and coloring inside the lines. When and if I stop doing that, I have no doubt the weight would come back on. As when I was losing, I just take it one, maybe two days at a time. Today and tomorrow is all I care about. The rest will take care of itself.1
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