Weekly Post - 26.02.18 - 04.03.18

Meghan509
Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
edited November 25 in Social Groups
Good morning everybody!

Happy Monday All.

A few more days and we are out of February and in to March. Slowly moving through winter. We got this! ;)

Today is my one year of logging in - 365 days! Wow... I did not start 5:2 though until mid to late March. But around this time I logged in because I was feeling down. Had gained back all but around 20 pounds of the weight I had lost. What I was doing was not working. I was, for the most part, over eating mostly healthy food. I was not logging, counting, weighing, etc. That was during the week. Then the weekends would come and there would be lots of treats. I had also stopped going to the gym at that point. I was bored and burnt out.

Then I eventually read something about 5:2 and though hmmm maybe that will work for me. Talked to my guy about it and he said he was in! Today I am down around 55 pounds from March and I am in a comfy size 8. I have a pair of size 12 jeans that I wore over the weekend that are going in the donation pile. Too big. Those ironically were my old skinny jeans when I had lost weight the first time back in 2014. :) Would like to lose 25 more. Slow and steady is how it is coming off.

Happy to have this little group and all of your support! <3 I promised I will dig up some old pics to show you. Only problem is I don't have a current pic. Will work on that!

Today is light day. Have a yummy soup I am looking forward to for lunch. Off to fill up my water cup. Have a good one all!

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  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    @Meghan509: congrats! You are amazing and have a great accomplishment in this past year. I envy that your man has joined you on 5:2. I’d love it if mine would.

    We were out of town this weekend and I had long ago decided this trip would be ‘out of bounds’ —- no logging or counting —- I know I went a bit crazy but all good, 5:2 light day tomorrow!

    Took some interesting photos (vacations = photos to me) I’ll post em later. I’m sneaking in this post at work.

    Ok everyone!! Here we go, heading into March! Let’s do this!!

  • jknight001
    jknight001 Posts: 745 Member
    Very quiet out there.... :#

    Having a fast day today. Feeling a bit low energy. Had a cup of coffee at lunch time yesterday and I think that was the reason I woke up in the middle of the night. Hence my lackluster energy level today. :/

    @Meghan509 - a big congratulations on a year of logging!!! What a commitment to yourself!. :heart: Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and I know you will make it.
    I don't know about you but I think the sizes on women's clothing have changed. I am now wearing size 8s. Np matter how little I used to weigh I never remember being able to f a size 8.

    @ryenday - I am a big fan of taking breaks. It can refresh one's soul. Where did you go? Looking forward to your pics.
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    Good morning all!

    Thank you for helping me out along the way! Not sure where I would be, without our little group here. Sure it has been quiet at times and people have come and go but I have learned so much! Grateful... I sort of feel more accountable by logging and checking in here and seeing if there is a way I can reach out and help someone else, the way you all have helped me... Passing it on!

    YES, I am lucky to have my guy by my side with me along the way. He has had some ups and downs too with plateaus but he's stuck with it. We have busted our butts in the gym six days a week, some weeks five days for the better part of a year. To date he has lost 52 pounds! Very happy for him. He bought size 38 jeans recently and they look good on him. :) He still has more to lose but he is lucky that he is six foot tall and handsome, so basically anything looks good on him. LOL

    I am pretty sure I am losing inches like mad lately. I bought a new winter coat (wool type) back around 12/31 and it is looking bigger on me. Same for a pair of PJ's I bought in early January. They are looking pretty big. In the past few months I am not down much pound wise, so this is interesting! Did I measure? Noooo... LOL

    I am also comfortably in to a size 8 these days. Wearing size 10 trousers today and they are loose. I also think that some of this is vanity sizing, where the sizes are bigger these days, but still I will take it! My body is definitely different and more leaner with 5:2, less fat. I like!

    Light day went well yesterday and so did my weight workout last night. I am really liking my new arm exercises. :#

    See you guys soon! Have a GREAT day!
  • sjgold123
    sjgold123 Posts: 133 Member
    Hi all, i've been quiet as i've been poorly. Great for appetite as i've not thought about food but not good at the same time as the motivation and cooking routines feel like a new learning experience again. Unsure where i am with my loss as regards to what i will stabilize at when i'm eating back normally on 5:2 as i've lost 5llbs being poorly for a week. Only problem is biscuits have been easy palletable and i now need to leave them behind again! What is slightly funny is that my husband is lost and can't wait for me to be in charge of the menu as he isn't loosing weight taking over being cook lol! Any way hopefully tomorrow i will be up and about again. Everyone sounds like they are having great losses!
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    Hi all!

    Too funny @sjgold123
    Hang in there. Everybody falls off once in a while or needs a little break. That is too funny how you have lost weight! Funny but good. They say it is good to shake things up now and then. :)

    Things are good here. Work has been busy as heck but it has made the whole morning fly by which is good! Didn't think about food once. Also haven't had much water today sigh...

    Picked up some new clothes recently via an online purchase and they arrived last night. Tried everything on and it all fits! Two shirts in a size small and a pair of jeans in an 8. Brings my total of pants owned in a size 8 up to four pairs. Who knew... If you asked me a year ago when my size 14's were digging in to me I would have called you CrAzY.

    Had a great cardio work out last night. Looking forward to my weights tonight. I am liking my new arm exercises. My arms are a little sore which is good, so I am doing something right!

    Have a good day all. Regular day here. Light day tomorrow. See you soon! -Meg
  • jfp420
    jfp420 Posts: 186 Member
    Hi everyone. Nice to meet all of you. I'm really looking forward to starting 5:2. This is my second fast day. So far so good!
  • jknight001
    jknight001 Posts: 745 Member
    Heard this on The TED Radio Hour and wanted to share it with you all. - "The opposite of addiction is not sobriety but connection." Pretty deep when you think about it.

    Welcome @jfp420! Glad to have you with us. If you haven't already, I highly recommend watching the Mosely video pinned to the group's homepage. Lots of good info there. And feel free to post as many questions to the group as you need! Hope your fast day goes well.
  • orlcam
    orlcam Posts: 533 Member
    Hey all...trying to drop in more so I don't seem like that creepy cousin at family reunions who lurks around on the fringes of the crowd looking for someone to talk to...

    @jknight001 - thanks for the kind words, poor Saints, to end it like they did, but the future looks bright with rookies of the year on both offense and defense!

    Also, I've been doing more keto lately and haven't had much to contribute on the 5:2 lifestyle. I hope to combine them once I get settled into a routine. The testimonials I've read show that the combo can be devastating to fat stores. In keto the goal is to have your body fueled by fat, not carbs, and to a lesser extent protein. One of the things that is interesting is that most people on keto, when talking about intermittent fasting, are referring to time slots for eating...such as 16:8, 18:6, etc., where you eat nothing for the majority of the day (24 hours) and then do all of your eating within a smaller window (18:6 meaning fasting for 18 hours and consuming all your calories in the remaining 6 hours of the day.) I find myself doing more of a 20:4 or 22:2 scenario...one big meal at the end of the day. Which, when you think about it, is how humans have been eating for the vast majority of our time on this planet. Before we were domesticated (within the last 10 to 20 thousand years or so) we were hunters and gatherers and the bulk of our calories were consumed at the end of the day when the tribe's/clan's/etc. bounty was brought back to the camp/cave/etc. and shared around the fire. This also explains a lot about our emotional attachment to food...it brings us a sense of safety and contentment...it's worked its way into our genome over the millennia. Some call this the Caveman or Warrior diet.

    These things (and logic) explain why the American way of eating for the past 70 years has been so harmful to our bodies. And these ideals have been literally crammed down our throats (food pyramid, breakfast is the most important meal, fat becoming a bad word, carbs being the goto fuel via corn, soy, and wheat products) by the egos of a few men in powerful positions. It has not helped that scientists were removed from panels and stripped of funding when they disagreed...so they've learned to either shut up or, worse, stylize their findings to fit U.S. guidelines. Things will change, but it will take some doing...we're at a time in our history as a country where the masses don't trust their government and people are once again exploring alternative diets, medicines, treatments and lifestyles, instead of just swallowing what we're being fed.

    ...hmmm...sounding like an anarchist...back to what I was saying...

    All of these types of diets/lifestyles are the result of what amounts to us applying logic to the history of humanity. Our evolution is why we respond to sustenance so deeply on both a physical and emotional level. No food means death and no food for everyone means extinction...every specie's main goal is to survive. This is why the things we need to do to keep on existing feel so euphoric...it applies to eating, and without getting too vulgar here, it also applies to propagation.

    Keto: the majority of the food we've eaten through our existence was high fat...fat is good! We have been carnivores for the entirety of this time (sorry vegans)...meat was the only food that wasn't seasonal. Sometimes nuts, berries, roots, etc. were necessary to get us to our next successful hunt.

    Paleo: if our ancestors didn't eat anything processed, then neither should we. Genetically modified and processed foods are the inventions of modern man. If our timeline (~200 thousand years for us, ~6 million for our ancestors) was condensed into a 24 hour day, then we've consumed these types of "foods" for less than 1 minute...less than 2 seconds if including our evolutionary ancestors.

    Caveman/Warrior: the day's meal was consumed in a short window and around the campfire in the safety of numbers and shelter. Food is strongly tied to our emotional and social needs; this is why many of us eat when we are scared, lonely or under stress...it is inherent to the human condition. Digestion and other biological functions are also more efficient when we're less stressed.

    And finally...
    Intermittent Fasting: contrary to popular belief, the human body doesn't go into starvation mode and "hold onto" our calories by decreasing metabolism. This biological necessity doesn't occur until around day 9 of complete starvation and weeks longer on severe calorie restriction (~25% of BMR). When caloric intake is reduced significantly the body actually increases metabolism steadily for about 7 days or so. As applied to our hunter/gatherer ancestors, this was needed to increase our chances of survival; when a hunt (or food foraging) failed, our bodies required more calories to function (so the body could keep moving/hunting and the brain could think harder to resolve the crisis), and this would continue for days (humans can survive for over 20 days without eating). This increase in metabolism is why it's harder to sleep when we're hungry and why we can have such crazy dreams while fasting...it's due to increased brain activity. Hunger pains are just another biological incentive for us to get to that next feeding.

    OK...like I said...just popping in to say hi.

    Bye,
    Rus
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    Hey all.
    Been a crazy day today. This will be a real quick one before running out of here and to the gym.
    Thanks for this awesome post about the different WOE's. I have been rocking a mixture of 5:2 and IF for the past six months or so and I think it has really helped me. I am not a big breakfast person. I love my dinner so I eat from lunch through dinner. Two meals a day with a snack in the afternoon is good for me. Coffee in the AM.

    Today flew by and I can't say I had time to even feel a bit of hunger! Love days like that!

    Going to sign off now and check in with you all tomorrow. Good night!
  • mamainthekitchen
    mamainthekitchen Posts: 929 Member
    Hi all!
    Wow lots to catch up on here... I’ve been popping in & out just to check my steps but feb has been a waste for me!

    First off congratulations Meghan for completing one entire year logging in with mfp! Great job and very inspiring!

    I enjoyed your post Orlcam, good insight.

    I’m hoping March works better for me as feb had a lot of stress to it although it ended good with a lovely anniversary dinner out with the hubs..

    Goodbye February!!!
    Hello March!
    Off to make some good choices for dinner!
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    Hi all!

    Happy Friday. I am glad this crazy week is finally wrapping up because I am over it! LOL

    Been thinking about you @mamainthekitchen nice to see you popping in. Here's to a good March! We got this!

    I finally got the woosh I was hoping for. Down 1.2 lbs this week. Phew. Been so slow lately. Actually have gone in and increased my calories that I am going to eat on my regular days. I feel they were too low and then I was slacking by nibbling after dinner on a cookie or a piece of chocolate. Not terrible, but too many little things do add up... Same thing was happening with my guy. He has not been eating enough calories. He's been feeling hungry and has been nibbling. Need to get better and log every single thing I eat and try and come up with some healthy "desserts" to have at night, like some fruit or a granola bar, etc. These are regular days I am talking about. Light days are easy to be honest. Gotten so used to them that I don't mind them much at all. :) Would like to see some faster weight loss and maybe eating a little more and being a little more honest about my logging will be the key. We are only human. o:)

    Hope everybody has some fun plans for the weekend. We are having dinner with family on Saturday night in NY. We are taking a night off from the gym tonight. We will head there tomorrow when we typically take Saturdays off. Need to miss Thursday so want to try and make it up if possible. Five days a week if not more, if possible!

    Have a great day and I will check back a little later.
  • jknight001
    jknight001 Posts: 745 Member
    edited March 2018
    Good week for me too. Down 1 pound. Very happy.

    @orlcam - Glad to see you coming out of lurker status. Wondering how you like keto?
    In reading your post, I had to pause over the thought that we were originally carnivorous. I had always assumed we were mostly plant based simply because, while it is true that meat is available year round, it is much easier to convince convince a yam to become your dinner than a deer. Only the good hunters would have the opportunity to eat meat.
    I also wondered about the statement of not holding on to our calories. I can buy that but it leaves me wondering about those crazy plateaus that happen with plain calorie reductions. I have myself experienced weeks of not losing or gaining a pound when trying to lose weight by simply reducing my calories.
    Interested in your thoughts on my two comments.

    @meghan509 - Congrats on the weight loss! Love the whoosh. Love that you are thinking about how to make this WOE work for you. If we are to maintain our loss, we have no other choice but to make how we eat work for us.

    @mamainthekitchen - glad to see you as well. March is a good month to get re-started. :D How is your husband doing? Glad you had a good anniversary dinner. Those kinds of things are what make life a joy.

    @ryenday & @KateNkognito - Hope you both are doing well. Maybe @ryenday decided to permanently stay on vacation. ;)
  • orlcam
    orlcam Posts: 533 Member
    Had a good 40 hour fast yesterday and small eating windows the rest of the week.

    @jknight001 - Keto seems to be working well. I definitely feel better...could be the placebo affect though and the fact that I've lost so much weight.

    On what I was saying above: 6 million years ago (considered by many to be the beginning of our evolution....Hominini/Hominina) our ancestors' diets were mostly herbaceous...and I apologize, when I say carnivorous I was using the term loosely and am speaking about modern man (last 200k years) and really mean omnivorous with a focus on fat with a large part of that coming from animals. Hunting covers things like trapping and fishing as well. Strictly speaking, omnivores can cover a large range, from a 99% animal protein based diet (think Inuit) to 1% (the Hadza of Tanzania get ~70% of their diet from plants). Around 2.5 million years ago is where scientists expect the transition took place (now we are at the beginning of the Homo/Human era), where the diet became high fat and our ancestors started focusing more on hunting...that transition is why our brains are the way they are; how we became Homo Sapiens. This is also the time when our skills for making and using tools took a leap forward; including those used in the pursuit of game. I am in no way suggesting that we should eat only animals all the time, though some races of the world can; the point I was trying to make was that fat is not bad like we were taught to believe and veganism is not the answer (in my opinion). Highly processed and genetically modified foods are bad...the powers that be have flipped things upside down on us and we've paid a heavy price.

    Anyway, when I say I am a carnivore (see my "About Me") I mean I love meat, but my diet includes flax/hemp/chia seeds and greens. I also consume low carb fruits and vegetables plus lots of mushrooms. I drink almond and coconut milk (and heavy cream) and use almond/coconut flours with various other low carb "things" to achieve less than ideal baked stuff (still transitioning). Also, when I need extra fat I will add either butter, coconut oil, evoo or MCT (Medium-chain triglycerides) oil and powder, which is made from coconuts.

    If you have a chance though, watch the documentary "The Magic Pill"...I think it was just released on DVD. Thought provoking at the very least.

    On metabolism: yes, our bodies will eventually start rebelling against our desire to look good in a pair of skinny jeans. I was saying that it takes more time than people think...it doesn't happen in a week (or even two), and it definitely doesn't happen during a 36 hour fast. It just doesn't occur "until around day 9 of complete starvation and weeks longer on severe calorie restriction"...based on the information I read. One of the studies was done on 50 Italian men (if memory serves)...could be a "guy" thing ;)

    Also, another note on our evolution...we are still evolving. We've changed (a little) in just the past 10,000 years due to agriculture alone. And did you know that modern humans are not supposed to consume milk (all dairy?) past infancy? ...however some races have already evolved (or never devolved) the ability to tolerate it.

    And remember...I could be wrong about all of this...so there's that.

    I'm sure that if you met me when I was 22, I would have convinced you that drinking a gallon of grapefruit juice everyday was a good thing; bleeding ulcers aside.
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    edited March 2018
    Cool post @orlcam ! Interesting info.
    Definitely will be re reading it as I am on my little phone. :)

    Thanks @jknight001 and congrats on your loss!!! I think once we get losing weight and are successful we always have to keep changing and thinking of ways to keep it going! Determined to lose the last of this weight. :#

    Have a good day and see you guys soon!
  • orlcam
    orlcam Posts: 533 Member
    Was able to get another fast in...it's been a while since I did 2 in a week. Finished around 4 pm and made a big pot of gumbo (hold the rice).
  • jknight001
    jknight001 Posts: 745 Member
    edited March 2018
    Thank you for the info @orlcam. I will look into Magic Pill. As for me, my basic rule is the farther food gets from it's earthly origin, think foods like Cheetos and foods with unpronouncable names in the ingredient list, the worse it is. My other rule is everything in moderation. :)
  • Meghan509
    Meghan509 Posts: 2,115 Member
    jknight001 wrote: »
    Thank you for the info @orlcam. I will look into Magic Pill. As for me, my basic rule is the farther food gets from it's earthly origin, think foods like Cheetos and foods with unpronouncable names in the ingredient list, the worse it is. My other rule is everything in moderation. :)

    This... Wholeheartedly agree!
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