Living The Lifestyle, Tuesday, March 18, 2018

88olds
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We meet here to explore, share, celebrate, and (sometimes) agonize over how we do (or don't) incorporate weight loss guidelines into our daily lives. "It's a lifestyle, not a diet" is easily and often said, but sometimes not so simply put into practice.
This is a thread for everyone. If you're new to GoaD, or to weight loss, your questions and comments are always welcome. If you're maintaining, or a long-term loser, your thoughts on the topic may be just what someone else needs to hear. If you're reading this, join in the discussion!
Each weekday, a new topic is offered up for discussion. Thread starters for March are:
Monday - whathapnd (Emmie)
Tuesday - 88olds (George)
Wednesday - Calvin2008Brian
Thursday - misterhub (Greg)
Friday - Al_Howard
Today's Topic: Tracking
Do you do it? How’s it going? If you don’t do it, why not? WW or MFP? Both? Tell us what you think about it, pro or con. What’s your experience with tracking?
This is a thread for everyone. If you're new to GoaD, or to weight loss, your questions and comments are always welcome. If you're maintaining, or a long-term loser, your thoughts on the topic may be just what someone else needs to hear. If you're reading this, join in the discussion!
Each weekday, a new topic is offered up for discussion. Thread starters for March are:
Monday - whathapnd (Emmie)
Tuesday - 88olds (George)
Wednesday - Calvin2008Brian
Thursday - misterhub (Greg)
Friday - Al_Howard
Today's Topic: Tracking
Do you do it? How’s it going? If you don’t do it, why not? WW or MFP? Both? Tell us what you think about it, pro or con. What’s your experience with tracking?
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I joined WW because I read somewhere that writing down what you eat was the best weight loss tool. Also I thought I should count something. I’d tried counting calories but it wasn’t going well.
So WW tracking worked very well for me. I found counting points somewhat easier than calorie counting. Because the numbers were smaller?
I know now that the problems with my DIY calorie counting were calories that were set too high and no food scale.
Tracking is process. As Steve O, pointed out about a week ago, if you are focused on the process you are focused on something you can actually control. Weight loss is a product of the process.
My new line in the sand is 175 lbs. About a month ago I started MFP tracking. Seems to be OK but I still find calorie counting more unwieldy than counting points.
Last point. If I had hair, I would have pulled it out by now over WL and tracking. Hours and hours in meetings and countless posts about how someone ate too much and quit tracking rather than record numbers that they don’t like. Don’t get it. I just don’t get it.0 -
This is day 1606 tracking with MFP. Prior to MFP I was using an app called "Tap & Track" since June 2011 but when I upgraded to a new iPad back in 2013, that app stopped working correctly and the developer was no longer providing support nor updates.
Tracking is such an ingrained habit that I always do it, even on a day like Sunday when I was out bike riding all day and just jotted down what I had eaten during the ride on a piece of paper so that I could enter it later.
I've never done WW points as the concept of 0 point foods just baffles me since all foods have calories.0 -
I first joined WW in the dark ages and tracked points on paper. Now I track on MFP. It is so much easier. Tracking calories is easier because that is what the rest of the world uses. While MFP isn't always accurate, it has a ton of food in the database which means I don't have to look it up somewhere else.
When I track, I do much bettter. When I don't track ...0 -
Currently not tracking/journaling but I do pay attention and eat the same foods I did while tracking. I was doing SFT and am basically doing that now without the tracking. I have logged my foods into the new program to see how they would fit in and it would work ok but only with the addition of a few of my AP points added in by the end of the week.1
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I hate tracking but I will freely admit that it works.
When I started WW back in the day, I tracked diligently. First I used the old paper trackers, then I moved to the etracker they had. After a year or two, I decided to change from points to the Simply Filling Technique (the Darkside). On SFT, you're still supposed to track non-SFT foods (as I recall), but generally there wasn't much I was eating that wasn't core, so I ultimately stopped tracking. That led to "intuitive maintenance" where following the spirit of WW was more important than the details.
That all worked reasonably well for years. I've been below my WW goal for a long time now.
But...I decided I want to go back to my own personal goal and lose ~10-12 pounds.
I've been back on WW for about 3 months now, and have jumped fully into tracking. I absolutely hate it (again).
First, it takes effort. There are foods that need to be looked up, input, scanned, etc. If you cook anything that has ingredients, you really are better off inputting the recipe. I hate when we cook something, and then I have to decide if I've eaten 1/4th of it, 1/3rd, etc. It's hard to know exactly. Sometimes I can't find a good food match even for standard food items (high-alcohol beers, for example).
Second, it's hard to track food you're eating out of the house. Portion sizes and ingredients are not obvious. There never seems to be an exact match for what your eating. There's always a sinking suspicion that the actual food on your plate is way more points than the WW app suggests.
Finally, there's a guilt thing in it for me that I feel like I have to manage. I feel guilty that I sometimes need to track, and I can't simply decide to eat less. Tracking is a constant reminder of my inability to do it myself. Plus, the way my week is structured, I burn all of my weeklies on Friday/Saturday (and often go over), and then spend the rest of the week trying to play "catch-up." As such, I don't feel like I'm doing the program "right," so to speak.
With all of that complaining aside, it really does work, and that may be the most frustrating aspect of all!0 -
>Do you do it?
NO.
>How’s it going?
NOT SO GOOD.
>If you don’t do it, why not?
GOOD QUESTION. I have excuses, but it probably all really boils down to motivation.
>WW or MFP?
MFP. I like it. The app is better than others I've used (WW and LoseIt!). Not a knock on the platform, but I get frustrated that it's harder to track a homemade meal than it is to scan a bar code on something pre-packaged.
>What’s your experience with tracking?
When I track I usually - but not always - lose weight. I really need to commit to it.0 -
I too was on WW back in the day (or the Dark Ages) and tracked on paper. When I returned this time (around 2011) I started on-line, and haven't looked back. I probably track between 9-95%, even the 100+ days.
I double tracked for awhile last summer, but gave it up. The calories drove me nuts. TOL does both to check sodium levels, and I sometimes check protein.
I too have had troubles with the platforms, but both are easier in a PC tham mobil.0 -
Tracking
Well I been “tracking” but there are some things I don’t track.
Condiments
I used to track fruit to note how much sugar can add up.
Zero Points has quit tracking chicken, eggs, yogurt and beans BUT I really cannot accept the Flim Flam (Freestyle) idea of eating food is “Magic”?!?
I understand the Freestyle concept of eating less points (eat less) but then it’s OK to eat healthy foods. I definitely preferred the SP but I am trying to learn/adapt and accept a easier Lifestyle.
Which means less Tracking.
BTW NOTE
I eat pickles, usually hamburger dills, kosher dills, some bread & butter. I never track.
Last couple weeks I been eating Sweet Gerkins pickles. Today I saw a jar of SF Sweet pickles Zero Points. I checked the regular ones were 2 SPs for two sweet gerkins
Sometimes it is a Pain in the *kitten* to Track
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As to 0 SP foods. We both track them all. Sometimes we look back a few weeks for meal ideas.
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A long long time ago (2005) In a galaxy far far away (NJ, I now live in Va) I tracked on paper with the old cardboard slide rule points calculator. As a systems engineer I loved new tech so when the online tracker came out I jumped on it just because it was a techie thing. Later when the first phone App tracker came out I jumped into that too. (the early one sucked!) What have I learned about it all? When I track I lose weight, when I don't track or even when I "air track" I either don't lose or maybe even gain weight.
I have been attending meetings for over a decade now, and as much as I hate being in a weekly "girls club" I know its something I need to do, tracking is the same way. I am always amused at meetings when longer term members act surprised that when they actually follow the program (weighing measuring & tracking) they lose weight. There is a saying I have heard often about when you follow the plan it works, when you only "sort of" follow the plan it only "sort of" works etc. Who would have thought it!!
And as for me, I tend to be an intermittent tracker, sometimes I don'y bother, and sometimes I get religion and track weigh & measure everything. Thats probably why I have never actually gotten to goal. But at the same time I am down by over 50 lbs and the long term trend has been down so I am still better off than I was.0 -
TRACKING: Do you do it? How’s it going? If you don’t do it, why not? WW or MFP? Both? Tell us what you think about it, pro or con. What’s your experience with tracking?
I've tracked from my start in 2014. I will say despite some 'tech challenges', the app has worked mostly well for me in its various iterations. I can track using the app at home (which is a big deal since we have a slow internet connection). That said, it can still take a little longer to track from home than at many of the places I travel to. Partly for that reason, I don't track 0-point foods but I do track most everything else.
Now that I've developed an eye for portions / serving sizes, I do some estimating but also re-calibrate my eyes from time to time. I think tracking has been key to my success thus far. I'm certainly aware of the need to implement the concept but it is the doing that keeps me honest. I try not to make a huge deal of it either. From Day 1 I figured I did not have to find the exact food in the tracker but if I used a reasonable substitute, it would work. The chore and tedium of finding the exact food I'd rather do other things with. Losing weight was and is important to me but I knew if it became too much of a chore, it would go by the wayside.
I feel like it's a more than reasonable payoff. Tracking does just that--it keeps me on-track over the long haul. I also appreciate that like the body scale, it's a set of informative numbers but nothing more. My meeting leader suggested last tracking it all--even if it's way over daily or even weekly points. I like that approach; it helps me with accountability and I find after tracking a big event, it's easier to just let it go once I've tracked it.
Like other aspects, I experimented with finding balance with tracking. I think I'm there. It's a minimal commitment in exchange for a healthy set of guard rails and information. I'm not crazy about doing it the rest of my life but it may (may not) be part of the price of participation.0
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