Good response to latest UNWR keto-slamming article?

macchiatto
macchiatto Posts: 2,890 Member
edited December 24 in Social Groups
Multiple FB friends have been posting articles about how all the experts are warning against the keto diet in the latest US News and World Report "study."

Articles like this: https://amp.insider.com/keto-diet-worst-diet-for-healthy-eating-2020-us-news-2020-1?fbclid=IwAR1EFp_zgd7rLA3JbL9jZq_j1keR451PXT0lEz2WVvSzcEAYuCwV8NKKcGw

I'm not concerned about my own choice to follow keto (and how my own cardiologist, MS specialist and PCP are all supportive of me doing it!) But I'm curious if any of you have found good updated articles providing a counterpoint to this?

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  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,890 Member
    Thank you all for the responses. And yeah, those were my thoughts, but it would be nice to find a good direct counterpoint.

    @FIT_Goat wow, that is wild! I can't imagine.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    edited January 2020
    Here are some select quotes.
    Firefighting is a physically demanding occupation that may require 6,000 calories (kilocalories) per day. Firefighters who do not consume enough calories will become fatigued and lose body weight and muscle. Consuming too few calories over the weeks and months of a busy fire season can impair immune function and lead to illness. This is not the time to lose weight. Firefighters should check their weight every 2 weeks to monitor their energy balance. The best time to weigh is in the morning before breakfast (but after urination).
    Carbohydrate Requirements

    High levels of continuous physical activity, such as digging fireline for hours, increase the daily carbohydrate requirements. Each gram of carbohydrate provides 4 calories of energy.

    The following example shows how to calculate the carbohydrate requirement for a 154-pound firefighter:

    Weight (in pounds) 154/ (2.2 pounds/kilogram) = 70 (weight in kilograms)

    Moderate Work—5 to 7 grams of carbohydrate/kilogram/ day x 70 kilograms (body weight) = 350 to 490 grams of carbohydrate/day

    Hard Work—7 to 10 grams of carbohydrate/kilogram/ day x 70 kilograms (body weight) = 490 to 700 grams of carbohydrate/day

    For ultraendurance activities or very hard work, such as a long, hard day on the fireline, the carbohydrate requirement could be even higher.
    Protein

    Athletes and wildland firefighters require 1.2 to 1.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day, with 1.2 grams required for moderate work and 1.8 grams required for prolonged hard work under adverse conditions. For this example, we will use a 154-pound (70-kilogram) firefighter who requires 1.5 grams of protein each day for each kilogram of body weight.

    1.5 grams of protein/kilogram/day x 70 kilograms (body weight) = 105 grams (3.7 ounces) of protein/day.
    Fat

    Fat should provide no more than 20 to 35 percent of daily calories. No more than one-third of the fat should come from saturated and trans fats (such as butter, lard, dairy fat, and some processed fats—read the labels). The balance of fat should come from monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats (such as olive, canola, and peanut oils or from nuts such as almonds, hazelnuts, and olives). If a firefighter needs 4,000 calories per day for heavy work, one-quarter can come from fat (1,000 calories). Because each gram of fat has 9 calories, that's 111 grams (4 ounces) of fat per day.

    Say that 70 kg firefighter is working hard enough to need 6,000 calories a day. He probably needs 1.8 grams/kg of protein (126 grams and 504 calories). Fat can be 1,200 to 2,100 calories a day. So, approx 4300 - 3400 calories a day from carbs. 1,100 grams is possible if fat is kept on the low side.


    Even their example 70kg firefighter with only 4,000 calories a day, 1,000 of which come from fat and 420 calories come from protein, that leaves 2,580 calories left or 645 grams of carbs each day.

    And here is a recommended day of food from the instructor's guide.
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    I won't lie, a long deployment where this is the type of diet I will be fed scares me more than many of the other things most people would be afraid of.

    Source: https://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/htmlpubs/htm06512833/page01.htm

    Edit: I couldn't find the thing about the eggs and red meat. It must be in a different training. But, I swear it was part of it. Even here, 10 ounces or meat or meat-substitute is recommended. That's less than a third of what I eat right now!
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    How the heck would one even fit in 11 servings of 'whole grain foods??!'
    And still find time to fight fires between constant feedings :o
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