Intermittent fasting on keto
JaneNev85
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I broke my 36 hour fast with a nice juicy T-Bone steak and a cute little healthy salad. This is the first time I’ve gone that long without eating (besides when I was young and partying)
I feel so satisfied after eating which doesn’t happen often. Who else does intermittent fasting? How long do you go before you eat?
I feel so satisfied after eating which doesn’t happen often. Who else does intermittent fasting? How long do you go before you eat?
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Same as you, Alternate Day Fasting (ADF). 36 - 40 hour fast then have a small meal followed by a normal size meal a couple hours later. I rarely feel hungry. I have become aware I used to eat from boredom or social expectations. Food tastes so much better and I really enjoy every mouthful.3
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I would love to be able to fast for 36 hours- what time of the day did you start? What did you have to drink?2
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I start after evening dinner, around 5PM. I normally do not drink anything until the following mid-day. Then I’ll have two cups of unsweetened black coffee and some water. Then it’s green tea or water until the next meal. I do sometimes get a mild headache. A glass of water with Himalayan or Pink salt seems to help. I’m careful to make sure I get enough electrolytes from my food.
I do not use any sweeteners, natural or artificial at all in any drink or food.
I’ve not really ever hungry. In my case I had a sugar desire (ok, addiction is more truthful). Honestly, for me breaking free of the white scourge was more difficult than anything else. It took two to four weeks and while I still have desire for chocolate I’m (finally) able to ignore the temptation. To be honest, I do sometimes have a chocolate covered almond but, now the taste is so sweet it puts me off. One chocolate almond is plenty for a couple or so weeks.
I track my fasts using a inexpensive app called Zero. A tracking app is not really needed. But, I like seeing my fasting history, that helps with my motivation. I figure, why not make it easy to succeed?
Finally, I worked up to 36-46 hour fasts in a methodical, unhurried manner. I did research (the hardest part of which was determining who was an authoritative source. Lots of dangerous rubbish on the Internet and especially YouTube. Some of the most popular fasting / keto YouTube channels seem trustworthy but, when I (eventually) cross-checked what they said against an acknowledged medical authority - Dr Jason Fung - it became clear those YouTubers were and are full of BS) and then learned to listen to my body. When I feel unwell I carefully break my fast with lemon water followed by a very small meal without carbs.
Finally, I don’t blab about fasting. I don’t need co-workers or family saying I’ll starve if I’m not eating every 2-3 hours. Anyway this is working for me. Have a peachy day!8 -
I do a 16/8 daily, sometimes up to a 20/4, and find it easy. I haven't thought much about doing anything longer. Can you share more about why you do it and what benefit you get?4
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Beckett3000 wrote: »I do a 16/8 daily, sometimes up to a 20/4, and find it easy. I haven't thought much about doing anything longer. Can you share more about why you do it and what benefit you get?
I am doing 10am to about 4pm eating window most days. Im bmi of 21, so Im happy with that. My drinks of choice are black coffee, black tea and water, so I drink coffee in the morning and tea at night.
It helps that I dont keep processed food in the house, and I cook from scratch.
This covid lockdown has helped, too..... no meeting friends for cake and coffee or a chicken parmigana and beer!
Remember: Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels!
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Is it ok to start IF and keto at the same time? Or is better to start keto then start integrating IF into the mix?0
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nicolejo143 wrote: »Is it ok to start IF and keto at the same time? Or is better to start keto then start integrating IF into the mix?
Its fine. Just make sure you get enough calories, particularly from protein.3 -
I am trying to get into 16-8, but find it very difficult. I have for two weeks been having bullet coffee in the morning, which for me takes me out of IF . I am trying for low carb, as I am pre- diabetic. What do people think of bullet coffee? I am still using regular butter-11 to 16 grams of it, since I havent been able to find gii...0
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I started using the Simple app for fasting, it has a few more bells and whistles, reminders to drink water, etc. I can easily do 22 hours with coffee and water, tea, etc. But once I start eating... hard to stop!
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sarahkatzenelson452 wrote: »I am trying to get into 16-8, but find it very difficult. I have for two weeks been having bullet coffee in the morning, which for me takes me out of IF . I am trying for low carb, as I am pre- diabetic. What do people think of bullet coffee? I am still using regular butter-11 to 16 grams of it, since I havent been able to find gii...
To me it just ended up being a waste of calories. I started out with it, but quickly noticed no benefit to me. My stomach wasn't happy with that much fat in the morning. And once I got used to just coffee, that worked fine. I saw no personal benefit to the Kevlar Coffee (my name for it since it wasn't the name brand stuff
) I much prefer having those calories to eat during my eating window. 3 -
baconslave wrote: »sarahkatzenelson452 wrote: »I am trying to get into 16-8, but find it very difficult. I have for two weeks been having bullet coffee in the morning, which for me takes me out of IF . I am trying for low carb, as I am pre- diabetic. What do people think of bullet coffee? I am still using regular butter-11 to 16 grams of it, since I havent been able to find gii...
To me it just ended up being a waste of calories. I started out with it, but quickly noticed no benefit to me. My stomach wasn't happy with that much fat in the morning. And once I got used to just coffee, that worked fine. I saw no personal benefit to the Kevlar Coffee (my name for it since it wasn't the name brand stuff ) I much prefer having those calories to eat during my eating window.
It should also be noted that you aren't fasting if you are drinking bullet proof coffee.0 -
Right. Forgot that part. Thanks.baconslave wrote: »sarahkatzenelson452 wrote: »I am trying to get into 16-8, but find it very difficult. I have for two weeks been having bullet coffee in the morning, which for me takes me out of IF . I am trying for low carb, as I am pre- diabetic. What do people think of bullet coffee? I am still using regular butter-11 to 16 grams of it, since I havent been able to find gii...
To me it just ended up being a waste of calories. I started out with it, but quickly noticed no benefit to me. My stomach wasn't happy with that much fat in the morning. And once I got used to just coffee, that worked fine. I saw no personal benefit to the Kevlar Coffee (my name for it since it wasn't the name brand stuff ) I much prefer having those calories to eat during my eating window.
It should also be noted that you aren't fasting if you are drinking bullet proof coffee.
I should always be more careful if I'm responding before I've finished my first cup of coffee. 1 -
I agree I am not fasting!! I like the taste and I find I am both concentrated and relaxed and able to stay within my daily caloric "budget". My BMI is around 25 but I have sig. visceral fat, so being able to lose the 0.4 kilo a week is important.0
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sarahkatzenelson452 wrote: »I agree I am not fasting!! I like the taste and I find I am both concentrated and relaxed and able to stay within my daily caloric "budget". My BMI is around 25 but I have sig. visceral fat, so being able to lose the 0.4 kilo a week is important.
Well there you go! Sounds perfect for you then. Compliance is key.
I drink coffee with creamer in the morning and with my IF protocol that's all I eat until dinner. That's not technically fasting. But I'm just trying to manage calories. And if that's what it takes to maintain (or lose in your instance) weight then we don't need to let "perfect" be the enemy of "good enough." I started using the protocol because it seemed I wasn't able to get rid of some extra winter fluff just restricting calories. I just kept retaining water that masked any loss. But I started doing my version of IF, and it worked. Does it make sense? Does anything make sense in this world any more? I don't know. I just know what happened to me.
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If you do 16/8 IF, how many carbs/calories do you get in during the limited eating time?0
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I do IF everyday drinking black coffee instead of breakfast but last few extended water fasts I had no luck gained what lost with day or 2 after ending.
Don't want to deprive myself on extended if no lasting results. Might try another in future but not excited too. My longest was 7 days extended fast.1 -
nicolejo143 wrote: »Is it ok to start IF and keto at the same time? Or is better to start keto then start integrating IF into the mix?
For me once I sm Keto adapted, 2 weeks of blood ketones above .5, fasting becomes super easy. Its like your body is already using fat for fuel, so when your not eating it switches to your internal fat with very little switch.2 -
I am OMAD keto, for 6 weeks now, I through in a 48 hour fast from time to time to shock the system my goal is a 72 hr fast in the month of July.
Today i started taking B complex with B12 and CoQ10. To get me ready for that 72 hr fast.3 -
I'm 20:4 most days and toss in the occasional 36h fast too1
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Hi everyone I'm just returning to the App after a few years break. I did Atkins for years and felt great but then fell ill with Lyme disease. All ok now but did put on some weight and trying to get it off again. I do IF 16:8 daily and now trying to get back on to Atkins but have seen a lot about KETO - what's the difference??? Also how to do you track net carbs on the app or do you just deduct the fibre column from the carb column??1
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eldinewilson275 wrote: »Hi everyone I'm just returning to the App after a few years break. I did Atkins for years and felt great but then fell ill with Lyme disease. All ok now but did put on some weight and trying to get it off again. I do IF 16:8 daily and now trying to get back on to Atkins but have seen a lot about KETO - what's the difference??? Also how to do you track net carbs on the app or do you just deduct the fibre column from the carb column??
Keto is more concerned with getting into ketosis and staying there. There is no carb ladder, you just keep them low enough to stay in ketosis forever. Both may achieve ketosis (depending on the version of Atkins you use), but Atkins just cares about carbs being low and about specific food eliminations for awhile. On mainstream keto you can technically just eat anything as long as whatever those carbs are they are under your carb limit and you keep your calories right. There are as many versions of keto as people decide to invent: reg keto, high fat keto, whole foods/paleo keto, vegan keto.... Some people call regular keto "dirty keto" b/c they aren't fussed with keeping anything natural. There's lazy keto where you aren't paying as much attention to numbers...
So some Atkins is keto, but not all keto is Atkins, if you take my meaning.
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Oh! Forgot!
There is no "net carbs" function on MFP. Just fiddle with your settings so that carbs and fibre are beside one another and subtract.1 -
Basically, I see the Induction phase of old Atkins as equal to keto (25 grams carbs or less per day). As many of us gain when we add back in carbs, we stick to induction indefinitely until ready to shift to a maintenance level of carbs.1
