Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber Does he read his audiobook? I was thinking of adding the ebook to my library wish list
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @RunsOnEspresso - Yes - he does!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    edited January 2021
    @swenson19d You are right. Before Dec I had hoped for some semblance of normal again. With dad's death, I now know that isn't going to happen. It really is going to be some "new normal" yet to be defined. But, I still have hope for a time when I can get out without a mask and maybe hug some of those people I really need to hug. Love the picture of Beary and Cori. Too cute.

    @shanaber I did sleep a little bit better on the couch last night, but not the sound, peaceful sleep I had hoped for. I'll thankfully take what I got though. I am awful about playing a game on my phone until I start falling asleep. I know that probably doesn't help the situation.
    Funny about Hobbes and the medicine. I don't have any problem with Tippy, but I put hers in peanut butter. I think that would be harder to get around. Have you tried that?
    Yeah for the run. I hope your hamstring isn't too sore this morning.
    My Master's Degree is in electro-optics. One of my favorite classes was a pattern recognition class where we talked a lot about how the brain works and all of the weird issues it can have.

    My heat pump is on the fritz yet again. I noticed last night that it wasn't keeping the temperature up. I used emergency heat last night and called them this morning. Fortunately, it isn't too cold today and they are able to come out around noon to work on it. I think there is a hole they haven't found that is leaking Freon. And, I think they know they messed up once because I never got a bill for the last visit, which was only a month after they had replaced the coil. Hopefully they will actually fix it today. If not, I may go with someone else the next time there is an issue.

    Also, I received a notice in the mail on Saturday that I have a registered letter that has to be signed to pick up. I don't know what it is...they didn't put on the notice who it was from. I have an inkling that it is from the IRS. If so, I am NOT going to be happy. My neighbor is going to take me to get it this afternoon, after the heat pump people get done.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,205 Member
    Hey all.

    I'll go back and read, haven't caught up yet after the last few days.

    Sunday I ended up throwing everything to the wind and just enjoyed myself. Ate all the treats. It was nice having one day. I estimate I ate about 1600 over goal. Consequently today's weigh in is 1kg (2.2lb) over where I was Saturday morning (Tues here). Not worried, it will drop in the next couple of days. Its comforting to be in a place where I know one day won't cancel out all I have achieved.

    I also had a reminder that I cannot manage other peoples emotions. Mum ended up leaving a little bitter and disappointed. She came for an open ended visit, max of 2 weeks, but DH was a bit over her by the end of 1 week, so I'd suggested she went home Tues. That would have been 1.5 weeks. Instead of being understanding, she got all upset and said she wasn't made to feel welcome.

    Additionally I'm planning a big trip in April, down south with my kids. The intention was mum would join us, and over Christmas I also invited my best friend, who has twins only a year younger than my youngest. Mum was a bit put out, and eventually decided not to come. She said her reason was "we would have more fun without her". I was quick to say that the things we would do would just be different. Friend and I are big on getting the kids into tramps and walks etc. Where mum's more of a sit around and enjoy a relax by the pool with a book type of person.

    So that was a disappointing way to end her visit. I keep feeling some guilt. But at the end of the day, her emotions aren't my responsibility, and getting upset about us asking her to leave after 1.5 weeks, and my inviting my best friend along on MY holiday is on her not me.

    Baby steps.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    edited January 2021
    @Avidkeo people are hard to manage. I guess your mum doesn't have friends her age? I assume it's easy for her to forget the demands of a young family and preserving their routines. Be good for her to grab a friend to go with you on that vacation so there is balance and your aren't responsible for her too.

    Kudos for setting boundaries and communication. I set bout with my mother and it turned out we had different ideas of life goals and acceptable behavior around kids. We went our separate ways.


    @shanaber How can you eat just one of anything? It nothing or all of it for me, LOL! Hobbes and the medicine! He's too smart!. Bear just drools the liquid stuff all over the house, it makes him drool, but not Cori. Champ of all medicine! Haha.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @Avidkeo It sounds like you are handling life really well. Family relationships are hard. I'm all for taking a day to eat whatever I want every now and again. If I think I can't have something ever again, I will eat it or bust. I guess that's the rebellious teenager I never was coming out as a 61 year old. LOL
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    Today is Dhs birthday so we both took the day off and stayed an extra night at beach. We got there late anyway because we had appt for MIL and her BF to get vaccines on Sat morning. That went okay but stressful with the two of them. We take them back in three weeks. Hopefully they won’t run out!

    @Avidkeo - sounds stressful with your mom. And she’s trying to lay on guilt so don’t accept it.
    @shanaber - Hobbes. Lol. Book sounds good. I’m in the middle, or beginning really, for book club book. Homegoing.

    We went to an outdoor place to eat lunch today. It was on the water and very windy and not crowded at all so it seemed safe. However i got iced tea and at one point they asked if I wanted a refill. I said yes and the waitress brought a pitcher and filled it from there. And it touched my glass! DH says you can’t catch it that way but I didn’t touch it after that. Stick with bottled water even tho I hate the plastic.
    I thought there were no refills anywhere! I know it’s airborne but it just seems like if she filled someone’s glass, touching it, and then immediately did mine....

    We finally rode bikes at the beach. dH bought a bike and I used one of the bikes that came in the storage locker. It was fun! We rode an hour in a strong headwind going out. And then flew back with tailwind.

    Ate too much most of the weekend but I’ll be fine this week at work. And a four day week!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @Avidkeo - I agree family relationships can be tough and mother/daughter can be the worst! I do think you did what was best and it is important that she realize inserting herself in the middle of your family isn't always going to work. I can't imagine her canceling the vacation with you and your friend and kids unless she thought there would be no time for her to just relax. Heck I would go, tell you all to go off and have a great time while I just relax by the pool with my book, see you when you get back!
    @quilteryoyo - I have tried peanut butter and somehow he gets it off and I will find the pill later in another room. Fortunately he doesn't have to have pills very often!
    So what exactly is Electro-Optics?
    @ddmom0811 - Happy Birthday to your dh!
    I am shocked about the water pitcher! That would be terrible without CovId! They should never touch the pitcher to anyone's glass, talk about transmitting germs!

    I am baking bread today! 1 loaf of sourdough and 1 of maple/walnut sourdough. Hilde gifted me her oh so fancy, never used bread maker so I used it to mix the dough for the sourdough, then baked it in the oven. The maple sourdough uses the discard starter and is more like a quickbread. I am making it completely in the bread maker. Not sure how it will turn out as the bread maker mixes it for the longest time... I think it is going to be fun making all kinds of bread. Just need to get some more flour now!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @ddmom0811 Happy Birthday to your DH. Sounds like you had a great day celebrating. I would probably be a little leery of the refill too.

    @shanaber That maple/walnut bread sounds wonderful. I look forward to a report on it.
    Electro-optics is a branch of electrical engineering that uses light, instead of electricity, to transmit information. It's faster and more compact. Mind you, this was a "new" thing in the early 1990's. My thesis was using lasers to try to have better pattern recognition of targets. Things have changed so much since then, the things we did probably looks like we were coloring with crayons, out of the lines. LOL But, without that, we would not have learned and be where we are today.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    Ew @ddmom0811 . I never even thought about it before COVID, which is still gross. I don't want one molecule of anothers mouth germs. yuck. I wont drink out of a cup anyway. It better be bottled or disposable. I don't like the smell of cups.


    @shanaber I still need to get Beary today for meds. I had him watch me give Cori his and he just shook his head (figuratively). I can get the pill down (1/4th a pill actually), but the liquid wormer is as if I am feeding him soapy rabies. Just all foamy and slobbery. The litter boxes are less full today so perhaps well be diarrhea free soon. yay!
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    oh @quilteryoyo electo-optics sounds awesome!
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,205 Member
    Tha ks guys.

    She's decided not to come, and I'm supporting that decision. The guilt I'd feel leaving her behind would be awful. I'd feel the whole time that I'd have to do what ever I could to keep her and my friend happy. And that sounds exhausting.

    We are doing another holiday in a few months to the snow that she will come along. Its an annual tradition (well will be hahaha) and she came the first time, and knows exactly what it will be like.

    Had a good day today. Another day sticking to goal. Also rode my bike too and from work. Whew.

    Early morning tomorrow, as I'm working in ED (ER). Busy busy
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    You are doing so good, all the way around @Avidkeo !
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    I did three different walks today, each one a mile long. That is the furthest I have intentionally walked since the surgery. I felt fine while walking, but have been really wiped out since I ate dinner. I'm hoping that means I will sleep good tonight. (I slept a lot better last night.)

    I did get my letter to the IRS in the mail today and got the credit card to waive the late fee they had charged me. One of my walks was to mom's to visit with the friends who stayed with her while I was having my surgery. After they left, I helped her get firewood on the porch. After I got home, I called a dear, older friend, and talked almost an hour. I'm trying hard to do better about keeping in touch with people - especially people like her who are by themselves with very few visitors. She'll be 90 in July, still lives alone, and still mows her lawn in the summer. She's super sweet.

    I don't feel like I am getting much accomplished, but seem to be staying busy enough. I still need to write the thank you cards for some of the flowers/cards we received after dad passed away. I keep putting it off. I just need to pick a day and get them all done. I hope to do that one day this week.
  • bearly63
    bearly63 Posts: 734 Member
    Hello Ladies:

    I have been out of the loop but just read all the past weeks posts. Work has been a series of firedrills as there is an offer on to buy one of the properties so I am doing a lot of disclosure work. This is usually a slow week where I can do clean up work from year end but not so far.

    Also found out that my husband's golf partner from Saturday tested covid positive on Sunday so he is quarantining here. He's masked and staying in his office and our bedroom or 8 feet away from us. No symptoms yet and has a PCR test appt for Thursday. Not too concerned since they were outside and not too close together but we are being safe.

    DD just got her second vaccine yesterday and is feeling a little off today.

    @quilteryoyo so glad your recovery is going so well and your weight is back down. I wish you could sleep better. I am the same way....not a back sleeper. It's hard when you can't get flat either.

    @swenson19d cute kitty pics!!

    @RunsOnEspresso AFter the Equifax breach I just locked down all of my credit at each of the places. Seems to have worked but its a pain if I want to apply for credit. I am sure my info is floating around the dark web somewhere.

    @ddmom0811 what is this about cycling under your desk.....fill me in hahaha

    @shanaber congrats on your weight and running etc. And its great that you got the vaccine. I heard Cali is reopening?

    @Avidkeo You are doing so well with the tracking....all of you guys are.

    Food: starting to get back to tracking but learning more about macros...as I am focused right now on getting more lean muscle. I probably have a few lbs of fat to lose but need to gain muscle so I guess I am more at a maintenance level of cals but I need more protein....I just read an interesting post about how to set your goals to control where workout calories go to....you can choose what macro to increase from workout calories. I need to research more.

    exercise: I did a fun running challenge where we took a running class from every instructor, in order, no stopping. Some were walking or warm up runs or intervals. A few were called the extra mile where you try to do a mile in 8 minutes. I am slow...my jog is about 5 MPH (12 min mile) I had to basically sprint at about a 7-8 min mile to get there. I got one. It felt good run - the treadmill is so much more cushioning than the road. This will definitely help me increase my speed.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @quilteryoyo - that is interesting about the electro-optics. I figured it might have something to do with lasers. My dh and I sometimes talk about how much IT has changed over the years. The systems we originally worked on were much smaller than what is in our phones today but they were able to process all the banking information for millions of people.
    I think you got quite a lot accomplished, especially with three walks. I hope this time with the IRS finally gets it resolved!
    Hi @bearly63! CA has lifted the extended stay at home order but the county wide restrictions remain. We are in the worst level and basically everything is still shut down. The restaurants can open with limited outdoor seating again though.
    Strange that your dd had a reaction to the 2nd dose. Did she sign up for v-safe to log and get support if needed for the vaccine reactions? My dd was adamant that we sign up and provide feedback. She said it was really important, especially if we had anything more than a sore arm (we didn't).

    Bread update and pictures:
    Both the sourdough and the sourdough maple walnut bread are delicious. The maple bread isn't super sweet which I like. It also didn't brown really well in the machine but it was super easy to just put everything in and let it go. Even clean up was easy. Hilde wants me to make all of our bread now - ha!
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    Met with my pcp today and explained my concern that the issue with my hip as seen on the xray wasn't what I was experiencing as a problem. She thinks the hamstring pain is likely tendonitis as a result of the hip issue and is sending me to a sports ortho potentially for a cortisone shot and PT. She doesn't want me to go though until after I get my 2nd vaccine shot. She tried gently to tell me not to try running anymore and that running may become something I won't be able to do anymore. I am not ready to hear that or to accept it. She also wants me to 'lose a few pounds'...I'm trying, I'm trying...

    Food - we are keeping with the IF even though not managing the early hours (more eating breakfast later and dinner a little earlier). I have learned that if we don't have enough protein in dinner I am starving by bed time and then can't sleep. I have to make sure I have a protein drink or something if dinner is protein light.
    Dd also told me that we should not be having much carbs at dinner (for dh), basically keep it to protein and veggies. I need to work more on that. I didn't get in to customize our Hellofresh order for this week and the meals were all very high in carbs. One that we haven't eaten yet has 190 carbs per serving! Yikes!! I am not sure I will even make it. I won't waste the ingredients but I will make something else that is healthier with them.

    I listened more to the Keep Sharp book today and he was talking about the link between metabolic disorders (obesity, belly fat or large waist sizes, etc.) and dementia/Alzheimers. As he said more research is needed but there appears to be a connection; as obesity has increased so has Alzheimers but they don't know yet what the specific connection is. He did talk about the connection to insulin and having the brain cells become insulin resistant and essentially starve. I listened to this section 3 times today. I hope my dh will listen to it and maybe it will provide some incentive to get him up and moving. He is eating better so that should help too.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @bearly63 I hope your DH, and you, stay symptom free. Hope DD is back to her normal self today. Thanks, regarding sleep. Sleeping on the couch is helping, but for some reason, no matter how tired I feel, once I lay down I just can't go to sleep. It took me 1.5 hours last night before drifting off. It's better than it was, so I'll take it. I don't really track macros. Maybe I should. That workout sounds intense.

    (I had a post almost ready and somehow hit a button that deleted over half of it. Urg!)

    @shanaber Bread porn before breakfast isn't fair! It looks delicious. No wonder Hilde wants you to do a lot of baking. LOL I'm sorry you didn't get better news from your PCP. Maybe the sports ortho will be more optimistic and have a better solution. I find I need to have more protein in order to not be starving, and shaky, in just a couple of hours. It sounds like you are doing great though. The connection between obesity and Alzheimer's is interesting.
  • bearly63
    bearly63 Posts: 734 Member
    Hey @shanaber Your bread porn pics are amazing. I am such a sourdough fan. It became my pandemic guilty pleasure. One of the fun restaurants here is called Easy Tiger - a german beer garden with good sammies, sausages etc. To deal with the pandemic shutdown, they started making and selling their bread and starter at the local groceries and whole foods. The multigrain sourdough....better than anything. I finally stopped buying it after the new year.

    Your hip sounds like my hip....but my pain is right on the front - hip flexor area. I am in the same boat. xrays clear. MRI shows edema (swelling and inflammation) but no fractures. A few small labrum tears which are normal wear and tear for my age. So Sports med doc says I am fine to do whatever I want....run on a treadmill, cycle. The pain is the annoying thing but it only hurts when I do strength, yoga, stretching that involves the hip flexor. PT was more about evening out the imbalanced strength from my compensating and also my slightly twisted pelvis due to tight hamstrings. hahahah.....what a mess. So back to square one. I am thinking one more opinion from a different PT/Doc and then pull the trigger on the cortizone shot to lose the pain and move on. Too many cooks stirring the pot!

    That book sounds good. The Book "Live Wired" touches a lot on brain health and aging. Highly recommend. And the Mark Hyman series I mentioned last week does too - he is all about how food is medicine and the links to disease. The series was free last week and over the weekend and now its for sale of course. I ended up buying it because I couldn't listen last week and it comes with a cool workbook with all of the details the experts mention in the podcast. I let you all know if anything is worth sharing.

    And same on the protein thing. I am focusing on getting my macros right. My method on MFP has been to set my minimum cals and add back and eat my workout cals as motivation. I figured out how to set my added back workout cals to different macros....so I am adding back more carbs and fat and little protein. I want to get the protein regardless of my work out days. We shall see. It only works if I actually track.
  • bearly63
    bearly63 Posts: 734 Member
    @quilteryoyo Have you ever tried meditation? I ask because I am starting to do it more - so much science supports it for brain health. But I have discovered sleep meditations on the Peloton app. I listen before I go to sleep and I never make it past 5 minutes in a 10 min one hahaha. They just are so calming and it forces me to turn off my brain and relax and breath. It's amazing. There are many apps out there and I am sure they have them too. Check out Calm or Headspace....they have free versions with a few sleep meditations. And also other ones for day time. They say its almost as important as eating right and exercising.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @bearly63 I have not tried those. I'll check it out. Thanks.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @bearly63 I did too but somehow one credit card still got through. Now I have it locked for a year & applied for the 7-year version for ID theft victims.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,205 Member
    Morning all.

    Been on the edge of developing a cold all week. Last night I thought it finally was going full bloom but apparently not. Now maybe it will just go away.

    Scales finally going down again after Sundays binge. Went as high as 1.3kg over Saturdays weight, down to 800g over. I'm working out of town again tonight, so Hopefully back to last week's weight Saturday. Will see. I've got all my food ready for the next 2 days again. So not worried about food.

    Did not sleep well last night and am experiencing some DOMS from Tuesdays workout. Might have some retention from that.

    Just generally down today.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @Avidkeo Hugs. Sorry you are down today. I'm glad the cold chose to leave rather than go full bloom! You're doing great with food and your weight.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @shanaber that bread looks so good! It took me about a year (then losing Alex) to realize I'll never run again. I was thinking today that perhaps I'll be able to bike but haven't even tried to get on the bike with all the cranky back pain.


    Amazon
    I bought an over the toilet shelf and thought I was careful in the measurements and dang if it does not fit. Terribly embarrassing after dh accused me of spending too much money. I also got the floating shelf for under the TV and it looked horrible so I put it in the cat room and it works great for accumulating the stuff I am working on that day.

    Cori and Bear
    Cori is still chief running butt and has a vet appointment friday. We all agreed on a diet plan for him since it could be food. And I found out (er, sort of... internet chatter) that cats can't have raw eggs. oops. Bear has been eating them like a hungry aaig suckin' snake. LOL! I'll ask the vet friday to be sure, but think I have to cook them so it won't interfere with his nutrition. I thought cats naturally ate eggs. Cori isn't playing as much as Bear wants him to. Bear is whiny and cat calls(?) to him in a whiny voice, "Wheeeer aaaareee yoooouuuu?", all dang day. or the little incessant chirps "play. play. play". Gah he's lucky he's so lovable. I let Bear out to see the birds and took Cori out. He's a do-do. Just goes out the front and back in the garage, out the front and back in the garage. Well, now what that the garage is closed? oh he'll just wander off to the back yard and get scared of the dogs and run off. Meanwhile, Beary is trying to get him to follow him around like it's a grand tour. LOL! I may need to get Cori a harness and leash for a bit.

    new (and only) friend
    I am a bit overwhelmed. I can do the day 1 intro stuff beyond that I am not good at engaging others. She bought me coffee today. First coffee in 4 months? my guts are still unhappy. Thank goodness for text messages, perhaps I can fake know how to be friendly long enough to cement a friendship. LOL!

    School
    ugh behind.

    Violin
    ugh so behind. and she's stepped up the complexity. Which is great, but I struggle to find the time to get everything done. Dh is going to a meeting later, so I will have the house to practice, IF i get some other stuff done.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    @swenson19d I'm not surprised you have a hard time getting everything done. You have so much on your plate right now. Prioritizing is the key, I think. I hate it when I am so careful about measuring something and then it doesn't fit. Sometimes I think they measure from a different point or something. I hope Bear gets better. As far as the friend goes, just be yourself. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to engage. Asking questions about her background and finding some common ground is a good way to start. Good luck.
  • noblsheep
    noblsheep Posts: 593 Member
    Hi all. Mind if I hop on this train?
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    You are more than welcome to jump on this train with us @noblsheep ! If you've read through the thread, I'm sure you realize there's a lot of "life" discussions on here, as well as some food thrown in for good measure. LOL But hey, life issues is why most of us have food issues, huh?
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,463 Member
    Hahaha @eleanorhawkins ! You're also welcome to hang with us. LOL
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @avidkeo - it must have been something in the air yesterday. I had a down day too and had a really tough time even getting out for a walk. I did feel a bit better though after I getting out in the sunshine a bit.
    @swenson19d - I am not ready to accept the idea of no longer being able to run, I mean my plan all along has been to run until I am at least 80 or until I seriously can't move like that any longer. I don't think I am there yet. Besides I need to still be able to run for agility with Hobbes the Vizsla. Once I get in to see the new sports/ortho doc I will see what he says. He is BTW very young and was an assistant team doctor to the Lakers, Dodgers and Kings here so hopefully he is pretty good. His ratings are very high too.
    You could write a book on the adventures of Cori and Bear!
    I also agree with @quilteryoyo regarding your friend - just be yourself and expect normal give and take.
    Not to enable your shopping (please don't tell dh!) but have you ever shopped at WayFair? My dd loves it and has found so many things there that she likes!

    Welcome @noblsheep and @avidkeo - we really aren't hiding out over here. I think we just feel more comfortable having those life conversations here than in the bigger group.

    We are supposed to get really heavy rain and thunderstorms tonight and tomorrow. I figure tomorrow in the rain will be a good time to go for my knee xray since I don't imagine too many people will be going out if they don't have to. I may get out for another walk this afternoon since tomorrow will likely not be a great running/walking day. I am still feeling down in general and will have to push myself to get out. So much easier to just sit here.

    Food - has been ok... yesterday was better than normal, today not so much. I need to figure out what to make with the ground beef I have from the HelloFresh meal we aren't having. I am thinking maybe tacos. Anyone have any better ideas?