Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @noblsheep Ya it isn't common to eat donkey and I'm not sure if its even legal, but horse is at least legal as of a few years ago, few is ~5-10. I think the most of the horse is sent out of the country. My brother and I would find horse in WWII rations though. I remember feeling lucky when we found a tin of it (but we thought it was pig or just didn't think about it at all). You're a good friend for sneaking food in your girls bag!

    which reminds me,
    I ate so much yesterday. I was tired and moody and sad. I suppose it could be PMS or whatever the equivalent is when one is approaching menopause. DH was a butt and I slept in the cat room, I'm so sore this morning. the count down to the doc begins. 9 days. I'd been sort of looking at hip replacement info, thinking since that's what the doc wanted and I pushed back, it's time to eat crow and just say "if you think that what's best, then it's what I want to do". I'm not doing anything else this summer anyway.


    Cori
    sings at dd's door. He loves her too much. (trying to remember it's cute not annoying).

    @shanaber I like green apples in stew and curry. I never thought about microwaving them @noblsheep, I will remember that. Of course you could do tarts instead of a pie, just put them in muffin tins, perhaps make a healthy pie-like dish for your backsliding dh? haha. I know you told us the book already but would you mention it again? I promise to write it down and not just think that I'll remember it this time.

    plans today
    3. study for exam
    1. finish work due
    2. clean boxes of poo
    4. start long assignment
    5. violin? I doubt I get to violin- but it could happen specifically if dh leaves.
    6. and perhaps get the floors again since the litter and poo feet are constant. Cori does have diarrhea still.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,206 Member
    Well proof that a few bad days cannot completely derail you, weigh in this morning was 68.1kg!
    That's 3.6kg since 1 Jan. Wonderful result. Given I was aiming for 2kg, almost double that is great*

    (* I know, a decent portion of that is water weight. So that's why not worried about a big number for one month. Just incase someone reads and worries).

    Feb shouldn't be too much of a challenge. No trips till the end of the month, and that's doing a HM.

    Had one call out last night so work at 1030.

    Random question, I cycle to and from work. It's only about 20 mins max, or 150 calories. Would you include that in your daily allowance? I'm thinking yes, because my trend is already showing I'm eating 50 fewer calories than I could with my current goal. 200 calories a day on top of a 500 calorie deficit at my size sounds like trouble. I want to lose weight, but want to do it safely.


  • eleanorhawkins
    eleanorhawkins Posts: 1,659 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Well proof that a few bad days cannot completely derail you, weigh in this morning was 68.1kg!
    That's 3.6kg since 1 Jan. Wonderful result. Given I was aiming for 2kg, almost double that is great*

    (* I know, a decent portion of that is water weight. So that's why not worried about a big number for one month. Just incase someone reads and worries).

    Feb shouldn't be too much of a challenge. No trips till the end of the month, and that's doing a HM.

    Had one call out last night so work at 1030.

    Random question, I cycle to and from work. It's only about 20 mins max, or 150 calories. Would you include that in your daily allowance? I'm thinking yes, because my trend is already showing I'm eating 50 fewer calories than I could with my current goal. 200 calories a day on top of a 500 calorie deficit at my size sounds like trouble. I want to lose weight, but want to do it safely.


    Maybe eat half of them and give it a week or two... if you're still losing faster than you want to be then up it a bit more?
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    You are doing great @Avidkeo . I would count the calories you burn biking to work and back in my daily allowance.

  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Thanks for the apple ideas! These are not great apples. They look good on the outside but when I started peeling and cutting them for the compote they had weird 'bug' spots deep into then and all over that I ended up having to cut away. The compote is really good and delicious in oatmeal. It is apples, pecans and raisins and I suppose I could make more of it and freeze it. The idea od microwaving with some cinnamon all sounds good. I love to core and slice an apple, usually honey crisp and have with peanut butter for a snack.

    @noblsheep - growing up my dad was a hunter and we had a freezer full of game. With the venison which we ate instead of beef, they cooked it in basically the same way you could beef. With fowl it was mostly cooked like chicken or turkey, etc. I would assume the same would be true with the donkey. I would try stew as well but if it is tender maybe it could be smoked or bbq'd? The only thing I am wondering about is the skin... not sure how that would work. Will you need to take the skin off before cooking with it?
    I too always keep a protein or granola bar with me just in case. I am not a huge fan of granola/nut bars either but they usually stay fresh longer and are definitely handy when other food isn't available. Glad your friend had the one you gave her handy. Maybe she can think of something to leave in the car that she likes better that won't spoil or go stale.
    @swenson19d - that is sweet that Cori is 'singing' at dd's door! It will be interesting to hear what your doctor recommends. I have known several people who have had THR and it was very successful. I just don't know how that would work with all that you have already gone through. If it can get rid of the pain and allow you to be more mobile then that would be a success I think.
    The book is 'Keep Sharp: How to build a better brain at any age' by Dr Sanjay Gupta. I am listening to the audio book but I think I am going to order the actual book so I can go back and reread (and probably highlight) different sections.
    @quilteryoyo - To be honest when I want something sweet it is usually dark chocolate and I have a bunch in the refrigerator. So I just break off a piece and have it with a little red wine or a coffee.
    @avidkeo - you are doing great! I don't do the whole eat back my exercise calories but take more of a TDEE approach that was set by my nutritionist a while back although that does try to account for what you expend on any given day. I like @eleanorhawkins approach of adding back half and see how that goes and adjust as needed.

    So for Christmas this year dd 'gave' us a project to document our lives. It is an app sort of that sends us a question each week and we can write about our childhood, school, parents, add pictures, etc. So far it has been pretty fun although dh doesn't tend to remember as much from before his dad died when he was about 13. We end up discussing our questions (we each have different ones) and that seems to help us both remember more little details as does pulling out picture albums. At the end of the year all of the stories are consolidated into a printed book for each of us which she will get. The other good part is it has given us a project to work on during the whole stay at home requirements.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Well proof that a few bad days cannot completely derail you, weigh in this morning was 68.1kg!
    That's 3.6kg since 1 Jan. Wonderful result. Given I was aiming for 2kg, almost double that is great*

    (* I know, a decent portion of that is water weight. So that's why not worried about a big number for one month. Just incase someone reads and worries).

    Feb shouldn't be too much of a challenge. No trips till the end of the month, and that's doing a HM.

    Had one call out last night so work at 1030.

    Random question, I cycle to and from work. It's only about 20 mins max, or 150 calories. Would you include that in your daily allowance? I'm thinking yes, because my trend is already showing I'm eating 50 fewer calories than I could with my current goal. 200 calories a day on top of a 500 calorie deficit at my size sounds like trouble. I want to lose weight, but want to do it safely.


    Maybe eat half of them and give it a week or two... if you're still losing faster than you want to be then up it a bit more?

    I agree with this.

    @shanaber I remember very little of my childhood. I remember mostly late high school and on with some flashes from before.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    I looked it up because I had never thought about eating donkey - apparently it tastes something like beef, but gamier. Since I have friends who are donkeys it would bother me, but I don’t expect others to feel the same.

    Apparently it makes really great hamburgers?
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    @shanaber I love that Christmas gift. I had started to video mom and dad talking about their lives, but didn't get too far. I regret not getting more of his stories before it was too late. I do have a cassette tape where he told a lot about his childhood a few years ago. I need to find that and see if I actually have a machine that will play it.

  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    Hugs to everyone! We are a mess but I think that sums up the whole USA and I guess rest of the world right now. It's all just so crazy. @eleanorhawkins - so sorry for what you are going through with your DD. I was a teacher the last 20 years in a high school, but taught mostly boys, and honestly they are easier to deal with than girls at that age! I rarely had to deal with parents but I would sometimes be amazed to hear a parent complaining about their child when at school he would be perfectly fine. This year I'm not teaching (except I am teaching at a college online just one class) but still working at the high school and all my teaching friends are so stressed out. It's a mess for the kids and teachers! I really worry about how far behind every kid is going to be after this past year. They simply are getting less material in.

    Weekend was fairly successful as far as not eating so much junk but I was up a pound this morning and now I am one pound away from not being normal BMI. WHAT!? I can't believe it. This is just shocking to me because I've maintained since 2014 and suddenly the past 3-4 months I'm gaining. I really don't think I'm eating that much more junk so my metabolism must be changing, my thyroid med might need to be adjusted or maybe I'm hallucinating and I really am eating that much more. Actually eating that many GS cookies was something I've not done in years so I think it may be the latter.

    I lifted on Sat and ran after that. Then ran 4 miles today. Will be on Peloton in the am! I mean if you look at my exercise log I look like a maniac.
    One good and bad thing -- I've got a week long meeting ... I'm on a committee working on our reaccreditation and we are behind so 3 of us are stuck in a conference room all week. So I think it will be a good week to chug water (I've not been drinking enough) and not snack!
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @ddmom0811 You know a BMI measurement isn't useful in athletes because it can be falsely high. I would recommend a different metric for you to gauge your health. Even if you have gained some fat, I can't believe that you'd be considered unhealthy with all the strength training you've done. My BMI is 20-21 but my body fat percentage is (probably) >30% (DXA). That indicates, with a lower BMI and higher BF, that I need to add muscle not lose fat (but diet is easier than exercise rt now). So maybe spring for a DXA scan (covid allowing) and decide what the numbers really mean. Just my 2 cents.

    @rheddmobile Donkey friends! we have one in the neighborhood, he's kinda noisy. I think he's a guard donkey. They put them with livestock, apparently they are territorial and keep coyotes at bay. I grew up watching green acres and some other show i cant recall where the donkeys were just lovable stubborn pals. Not sure what I'd think if it were in a stew. I was offered bear stew once and passed. I like buffalo, but they seem sacred to me and I don't eat them.


    Chores
    assignment due today done
    delegated cat litter and roomba PM to DH, he also gave Cori his meds today
    started long assignment
    no violin- i did look at it 3 times
    Still studying last minute- review, for 9 AM exam.
    Not too bad of a day really. I am tired. I did take an antidepressant today. I can't seem to decide if I want to stay on them or not and just take a day here and there. But I can't focus at all, I "work" for 10-15 minutes and them am doing dumb stuff (amazon, google, reorganizing something, I spent 30 minuted trying to rename a folder and it wouldn't let me because it was in use, then I restarted my computer and it still wouldn't let me. so i made a new folder and moved the content... just dumb stuff and not focusing.).

    I ate too much again today too.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    edited February 2021
    @quilteryoyo Yes, the antidepressants are suppose to be taken daily to have any effect. I am rather sensitive to them and the one a week seems to help although it could be a placebo effect. I really would have liked to talk to the doc about it, but COVID... ETA I do feel that the jerks and vibrations are related, so I am at am impasse.

    Bear and Cori
    (stalling to start new week of assignments. exam 86, not an A but I dont care. I say that now but when it gets real that I take a B in an 8 hour class, I'll probably whine). Any way, those boys are doing well together. Bear loves to play chase and wrestle, Cori is a cry baby but seems to be learning that it's a game and they romped and chatted back and forth all through my exam time. It was cute. Bear is a whole new cat, he's very happy to have a little brother.

    Scale
    I was going to weigh myself, but DH moved the scale so bob (roomba) could clean. No idea where it is.

    Food
    unsure. dd made egg bites with cheese and bacon. I had one. We have grapes and oranges which sounds like a good start, but I do have violin this afternoon and don't want tummy troubles.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    @swenson19d Is a phone visit with your doctor an option? Glad Bear and Cori are getting along so well. Hey, and 86 is good in my book!
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @swenson19d Is a phone visit with your doctor an option? Glad Bear and Cori are getting along so well. Hey, and 86 is good in my book!

    yes, it is. But I have not made it a priority. I am going to try to manage until mid march, spring break.
  • bearly63
    bearly63 Posts: 734 Member
    Happy February Fools Day to all!

    Welcome @eleanorhawkins and @noblsheep.

    I am back into tracking which I haven't done for a long time....managed to stay within 5 lbs of goal weight. But now, I am focused on strength and recomping to gain lean muscle as I try to stave off bone density issues. That being said, I am really focusing on Macros, which I have ignored. A lot of Peloton friends are more knowledgeable and we are sharing ideas. I am sticking to a protein goal in grams, with carbs and fat making up the rest to get to my daily calories and adding back workout calories, but adding them back as fat and carbs so that regardless of how much I burn a day, I will always know where I stand with my protein goals.

    Its all new to me and I struggle to get enough protein because I love chocolate, wine, sweets, bread. But I am doing less crazy cardio and more strength so it calls for more protein. It will be a learning experience!

    @shanaber I agree with @RunsOnEspresso ....I remember late high school and on and not much before that....weird.

    @ddmom0811 Thin mints and SAmoas are my downfall!

    @quilteryoyo Sorry your missing your dad! It's just hard....
  • noblsheep
    noblsheep Posts: 593 Member
    @shanaber Love the idea of that project! I should do something similar with my parents, they both had pretty epic lives and I really want to know more than the bits and pieces they told me (and I remember) from when I was a kid.

    @rheddmobile Ah yes the hamburgers. I think I know what you're talking about - a kind of street food thing we've got over here - but it never crossed my mind to make it at home. Hmmm. Going to think about that now.

    @swenson19d Recently I've been doing pomodoro timers, where I try to focus for 25 mins at a time, then get up and do something else for a few minutes before coming back and "resetting". That way even if I get distracted and start doing other stuff I only waste 25 minutes. Dunno if that might work for you?

    Great to hear about the cats! I read somewhere that having younger playmates around helps keep cats from getting too sedentry and stay healthy for longer.

    @quilteryoyo Hugs!
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @quilteryoyo love how you got to the 2.02! Isn’t that funny how things like that happen and are not random at all.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,206 Member
    Love the explanation @quilteryoyo.

    Scales up about 1lb today. Them is the weirdness of scales lol.

    Stationery bike, weights and a Ride to work again. 7min flat. It's now faster to cycle than drive and park.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    Thanks ladies.

    @Avidkeo It's fantastic that your commute is faster riding the bike than it is in the car! The scale will eventually catch up with your activity and go down. Hang in there.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,206 Member
    How is everyone today. I hear its groundhog day?

    Scales continues its stubborn streak, up another 100gm (half a pound) this morning. I'm more amused that anything. My tracking is on point, so it's going to go down soon. And trend is still going down. That's all that matters.

    Not a lot to report atm. I'm glad to say I'm feeling just even. Not up, not down. Its a nice place to be.
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    Had to take a quick minute to post my before/after w/Invisalign! @shanaber and @bearly63, were right, it was worth it! This was 11 months. I had to wait a few weeks for the veneers to go over my two tiny "peg teeth" that are on the sides of my two front teeth on top. Got those this morning! Now that I see the before, I'm horrified I let them get that bad. LOL. I didn't think they were that bad. They really started moving and crowding in my 50s (59 now).
    hrfxb15i75x1.jpg

    Thanks for the advice on eating/tracking. I will do so!
    @bearly63 - it's hard to give up the cardio. I struggle but I keep reminding myself -- at least 2x a week to keep strong bones and it has done it so far. No bone loss.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @noblsheep Funny you don't think burgers when it's a staple here. 8/10 fast food options here seems to be a burger. I did use the study timers before, I have just resorted to telling myself "no". A looming deadline had motivated me today.

    @ddmom0811 love the change!


    Food
    I gotta make changes. Im tired of the belly roll in the way and tight clothes.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    edited February 2021
    @Avidkeo Glad you know that no matter what the scale says, you are doing great!

    @ddmom0811 WOW! That is a big difference. You look great. You are making me rethink getting them. But, my biggest issue is an overbite. The dentist said it won't help that much. I'll have to think about it.

    It's cold and snowy again today, so I walked on the treadmill again. I did 2.23 miles at 3.5 mph. I did the odd distance to make my monthly total and "even" number after yesterday's tribute to dad.

  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    noblsheep wrote: »
    @shanaber Love the idea of that project! I should do something similar with my parents, they both had pretty epic lives and I really want to know more than the bits and pieces they told me (and I remember) from when I was a kid.

    @swenson19d Recently I've been doing pomodoro timers, where I try to focus for 25 mins at a time, then get up and do something else for a few minutes before coming back and "resetting". That way even if I get distracted and start doing other stuff I only waste 25 minutes. Dunno if that might work for you?

    @noblsheep - I think you could do something like what we are doing. You just have to get their buy in to participate and then send them an email each week with a question they can respond to. They could do it together or each separately and just tell them to include as much detail as they can - it is good to go off on tangents as you remember things. We have enjoyed looking back and remembering fun times and different people in our lives. Dh is getting more into his college and professional years.
    On the pomodoro timers - that book on the brain that I am listening to just covered that as a way to become more focused. He talked about doing analytical meditation (I had never heard of it before) and then about the timer idea. Basically he said it helps to focus intently, then take the break to allow your brain to 'rest' for 5 minutes and they have found people are much more productive and creative.
    @avidkeo - I am pretty sure (prepandemic) a bike would be a faster commute here if you could do it without a car hitting you. For the most part LA is not cycling commute friendly but it is improving.
    @ddmom0811 - Wow! Your results are fantastic and you look awesome!
    @quilteryoyo - I love the numerology connection. We have something similar in my family but not quite to the same degree, around the number 5.
    @bearly63 - I struggle with getting more protein in too. I am thinking about not using protein products, shakes, bars, powders and the likes, and I am honestly not sure how I can do it. I am trying to cut out added sugars and oils like palm oil too and most of the drinks and bars have one or both or a sugar substitute like Sucralose which is also not good. If I am going to use anything the best option seems to be the powders as they have the least amount of added stuff in them.

    I was also reading that magnesium oxide and tart cherry juice are a good combination for relaxation, calming and better sleep. Has anyone tried them?

    We had agility last night and wow it took a toll on both Hobbes and me. He was SO excited I should have taken a video just to capture his vocalizations! The course was a lot of running for both of us and he still isn't moving much this morning. I did drop his jump height down to lesson the impact on his joints now that he is getting older. It immediately made my hamstring sore. Nothing I can change though to fix it for me though. I am sure it is the uneven grass surface and the stopping and turning required. Good thing I planned a short walk for later this afternoon and just some yoga and upper body strength training today.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    @shanaber Wonder if just cherry juice would work? I'm still trying to figure out sleeping post surgery. Glad you and Hobbes enjoyed agility. Hope your hamstring is better this evening.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    How is everyone today. I hear its groundhog day?

    Scales continues its stubborn streak, up another 100gm (half a pound) this morning. I'm more amused that anything. My tracking is on point, so it's going to go down soon. And trend is still going down. That's all that matters.

    Not a lot to report atm. I'm glad to say I'm feeling just even. Not up, not down. Its a nice place to be.

    Did Phil see his shadow or not? it was 60F here, so I'm guessing an early spring for us. 454grams/lb so that's just a quarter of a pound. I can't imaging worrying about anything less than a half pound, my weight fluctuates too much. You got this! recommit! I knew a girl (18-19) back in the day that played soccer and would do a 3 day fruit and veggie diet. I'd been thinking about that lately in addition to my soup diet when things get outta hand.

    @quilteryoyo I love the pic. Every kids has a picture of them with a giant spoon or a whole cake! It's just too cute.

    School
    I got another zero today. I swear. Congratulations to me, I have one in every class now. One missed assignment, one not acceptable- I did it but didnt screen shot the "certificate", it said it would email and it didnt, so I did it again X6 assignments in one grade, and gave up and just copied the email of you did it, no certificate. ugh. fine. last one I missed completing 2 parts of 18. i have no idea how. it marked it complete on my end. BBBBBB's this semester! LOL. oh well I'm fine.

    Got my teeths cleaned. she made me cry asking about me/Alex.

    I want to eat but am not hungry. I think Ill eat 10 oranges and see if that wont do it.

    Cori
    on new med. if not better in 48 hrs to call.

    DD
    has bile in her urine? doc tomorrow so hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this soon.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    @swenson19d Phil did see it's shadow, so 6 more weeks of winter. Sorry about the school woes. I would think that there would be a way to rectify those glitches and get credit. I'd be really upset if I did the work and got a zero for not completing it. But, B's aren't bad. I hope the new medicine helps Cori. I didn't realize DD was sick. Hope the doctor has answers.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,472 Member
    Sleep is still not back to normal, but is changing. I fell asleep fairly quickly last night, but then woke up about 2.5 hours later and couldn't go back to sleep for about 2 hours. I did rest quietly though, so I guess that's something. I think I just need to get back to my own bed and a little bit of a normal routine, eating included. I find that I have NOT been eating the healthy foods that I did pre-surgery. Just too lazy to cook and I've been having salted popcorn every night. That will stop soon because I'm almost out. LOL I'll get there. Just like healing, I think it is just going to take time.