It is disappointing that the focus was solely on meds, they're talking about using as few meds as possible to treat the maximum amount of diabetes ailments, but to me, whether you still have some pancreas function left or not, nutrition has to play a role in the remedy and doctors need to start factoring that in when prescribing, otherwise we'll never break the cycle of presuming diabetes is a progressive disease.

This is a tough area because we absolutely need proper meds with the fewest side effects and maximum benefits as no two people are exactly alike.

However, the discouraging part is that the focus of treating pre-diabetes was drugs. We have got to focus on non-drug options early on. Everything I have seen, read and heard is that once drug treatment starts it is almost inevitable that the patient is beginning a slow steady slide downhill where more meds in higher doses are needed.

Part of that is outdated expectations like keeping a diabetics A1c at or below 7.0 when it seems apparent that sustained levels above 6.0 cause increasing damage. This is one place this guy has it absolutely right where we have to start getting an improvement earlier. Waiting until someone is diabetic (6.5 by most standards) is too late.

Step one has to be changing the mantra of the politically correct elite pushing LF with lots of grains as the diet to cure everything when that keeps being shown as the culprit in this instance. When I see the food pyramid pushing 6-11 servings of grain and 2-4 servings of fruit, it makes me nuts - up to 15 servings of straight carbs that your body is going to turn into sugar almost immediately upon digestion!!!!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the obesity and diabetes epidemic started shortly after this *kitten* pyramid was rolled out and started being taught in our schools.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. "People keep getting fatter and fatter and getting diabetes at younger and younger ages. That must mean we should double down on how we are telling people to eat." Remember when T2D was called "adult onset diabetes?"

If we get step one accomplished, there will be fewer people like @RalfLott who have damage to the degree that meds become a permanent way of life.

I confess I didn't read the article but it is my understanding that in T2D, the beta cells crap out because of fatty pancreas and burnout but once you eliminate the fatty pancreas condition they spring back into action. And this is all talking about very late stage T2D anyway, because earlier on, they are not only functioning but making lots and lots of insulin.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what's being asked

maureenkhilde wrote: »

I am a type 2 Diabetic now for 15 plus years. And now see a specialist yes a Endocrinologist
And have been told you really need to eat better, would you like to see a dietician asked once in the 7 years I have been going there. The answer increase medications, give me more medications. Some with intense side effects. That caused me to stop taking. This year I decided enough is enough I am killing myself, eating too much, and much of the wrong foods. Three prong goal, take way less medications, actually stop some, which will improve my health. And lose some weight. I do not have a long term goal. Starting with the well known one for Diabetics. Loose 5% it will help, I have done that. So next goal going for 10%. I need to find someone who can help me, get on the correct train tracks. So I started on MFP and started tracking and reading and being accountable to myself daily. And was told no white sugar, and no grains for you for now. I am kind of being cycled with proteins, carbs and fats changed every three weeks by the Dr I am seeing who specializes in weightloss, and knows so much about the food, carbs, proteins, fats, sugar etc. And what impacts what, and yes had me watch the videos listed in this topic. And I for one am seeing the huge direct impact that dropping carbs has on my insulins. I started on 5/6/2018 using 70 ML of Lantus, now I am down to 56, Humalog total per day was 36 ML (divided into 3 times) now is 12 ML per day. I am checking BG first thing in morning before lunch and before bed. Or if I start to feel like it is going to low. I am keeping all Dr,s in the know of what is going on and results. As this is a journey I have started on. Carbs could go lower and most likely will but from uncontrolled to 45C per day all coming from Vege and Fruits has been a big jump for me.

@maureenkhilde I have been keeping my daily carbs just under 50 grams daily for four years and it has done so much good for my BG readings and all my other health markers.

Carbs seems to be the major way to develop Type 2 Diabetes, low HDL and high triglycerides.

Keep learning your way forward and you will come up with your own Way Of Eating that works best for YOU. It is cool to read about what the WOE of others can do for them but in the end it is finding your own WOE that requires no real effort to do for the rest of your life.

Best of success.

DiabeticDer wrote: »

maureenkhilde wrote: »

I am a type 2 Diabetic now for 15 plus years. And now see a specialist yes a Endocrinologist
And have been told you really need to eat better, would you like to see a dietician asked once in the 7 years I have been going there. The answer increase medications, give me more medications. Some with intense side effects. That caused me to stop taking. This year I decided enough is enough I am killing myself, eating too much, and much of the wrong foods. Three prong goal, take way less medications, actually stop some, which will improve my health. And lose some weight. I do not have a long term goal. Starting with the well known one for Diabetics. Loose 5% it will help, I have done that. So next goal going for 10%. I need to find someone who can help me, get on the correct train tracks. So I started on MFP and started tracking and reading and being accountable to myself daily. And was told no white sugar, and no grains for you for now. I am kind of being cycled with proteins, carbs and fats changed every three weeks by the Dr I am seeing who specializes in weightloss, and knows so much about the food, carbs, proteins, fats, sugar etc. And what impacts what, and yes had me watch the videos listed in this topic. And I for one am seeing the huge direct impact that dropping carbs has on my insulins. I started on 5/6/2018 using 70 ML of Lantus, now I am down to 56, Humalog total per day was 36 ML (divided into 3 times) now is 12 ML per day. I am checking BG first thing in morning before lunch and before bed. Or if I start to feel like it is going to low. I am keeping all Dr,s in the know of what is going on and results. As this is a journey I have started on. Carbs could go lower and most likely will but from uncontrolled to 45C per day all coming from Vege and Fruits has been a big jump for me.

@maureenkhilde congratulations on your progress! My story is very similar to yours. I have reduced my carbs beginning in April and went from 9.2 A1C to 5.5 in 3 months! I went from 88 units of lantus to 55 units. Can't wait for my next visit with my MD in 2 weeks to get my next A1C!. I've lost 35 lbs in just under 6 months and I feel so much better! Keep up the great work!! We can do this!!

Wow! Congratulations!