Poor Karl Rove is offended...
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The GOP has gone completely insane. Their Obama hatred is so intense that they would rather have millions more Americans out of work than to hae any of his policies have been successful. They need a good hard slap back into reality. People are already fed up with the elitist attitudes such as Santorum comparing the cost of medicine to an IPad and Romney saying he isn't concerned about the poor. I've voted both Rep and Dem in my time. I didn't vote for Obama last time (yes, I'm aware I've said that before.) but I can't think of a single reason to vote for Romney. I actually did originally intend to vote for him. Then I started actually paying attention to what he's all about and listening to what he said.
Seriously, why would anyone who isn't wealthy vote Republican this time around? Unless someone intends to vote based solely on abortion and/or gays I can't think of any reason.0 -
I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky?
Well, do ya, Karl?0 -
The GOP has gone completely insane. Their Obama hatred is so intense that they would rather have millions more Americans out of work than to hae any of his policies have been successful. They need a good hard slap back into reality. People are already fed up with the elitist attitudes such as Santorum comparing the cost of medicine to an IPad and Romney saying he isn't concerned about the poor. I've voted both Rep and Dem in my time. I didn't vote for Obama last time (yes, I'm aware I've said that before.) but I can't think of a single reason to vote for Romney. I actually did originally intend to vote for him. Then I started actually paying attention to what he's all about and listening to what he said.
Seriously, why would anyone who isn't wealthy vote Republican this time around? Unless someone intends to vote based solely on abortion and/or gays I can't think of any reason.
Recent poll results said that 54% of people reported that the more they learned about romney, the less they liked him (vs 24% who said the opposite).
And we haven't even seriously started talking about Seamus yet.
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Karl Rove is possibly one of the biggest scum bags in american politics. I have both liberal and conservative views, but this piece of trash was only good at one thing, winning elections by any means necessary and completely turned me off of the Republican party.0
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Karl Rove is possibly one of the biggest scum bags in american politics. I have both liberal and conservative views, but this piece of trash was only good at one thing, winning elections by any means necessary and completely turned me off of the Republican party.
I remember the first Bush election when our local churches had videos they were showing about how horrible Clinton was and how we needed to move to a more socially conservative society. This was all part of Rove's master plan at the time to get fundamentalists involved in the election process. That guy is a political genius and a huge scumbag.0 -
Karl Rove is possibly one of the biggest scum bags in american politics. I have both liberal and conservative views, but this piece of trash was only good at one thing, winning elections by any means necessary and completely turned me off of the Republican party.
I remember the first Bush election when our local churches had videos they were showing about how horrible Clinton was and how we needed to move to a more socially conservative society. This was all part of Rove's master plan at the time to get fundamentalists involved in the election process. That guy is a political genius and a huge scumbag.
Yup.0 -
Karl Rove is possibly one of the biggest scum bags in american politics. I have both liberal and conservative views, but this piece of trash was only good at one thing, winning elections by any means necessary and completely turned me off of the Republican party.
I remember the first Bush election when our local churches had videos they were showing about how horrible Clinton was and how we needed to move to a more socially conservative society. This was all part of Rove's master plan at the time to get fundamentalists involved in the election process. That guy is a political genius and a huge scumbag.
He was preaching to the choir. When Bill Clinton was elected POTUS, I was a fundamentalist Christian and I remember SOBBING when he won because they had convinced me that we had just elected the antichrist. lol0 -
I cried when Obama was elected. I hope I won't be crying in November. If he gets re-elected, we're ****ed.0
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The GOP has gone completely insane. Their Obama hatred is so intense that they would rather have millions more Americans out of work than to hae any of his policies have been successful. They need a good hard slap back into reality. People are already fed up with the elitist attitudes such as Santorum comparing the cost of medicine to an IPad and Romney saying he isn't concerned about the poor. I've voted both Rep and Dem in my time. I didn't vote for Obama last time (yes, I'm aware I've said that before.) but I can't think of a single reason to vote for Romney. I actually did originally intend to vote for him. Then I started actually paying attention to what he's all about and listening to what he said.
Seriously, why would anyone who isn't wealthy vote Republican this time around? Unless someone intends to vote based solely on abortion and/or gays I can't think of any reason.
Recent poll results said that 54% of people reported that the more they learned about romney, the less they liked him (vs 24% who said the opposite).
And we haven't even seriously started talking about Seamus yet.
"I ride inside" www.dogsagainstromney.com
I just don't understand why they picked him. Or at least are on the road to picking him. I guess on paper they think he is moderate enough to be elected by the masses, but in reality, I don't think most people like him, including Republicans. I know there are a few great Republicans out there, I think they're waiting until next time around.
**And people can say that Dems don't like Obama, but currently polls show that most Dems actually do like Obama, he had 80% approval rating amoungst Dems. Republicans don't like Obama, but that's okay, they didn't like him last time around either.
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**And people can say that Dems don't like Obama, but currently polls show that most Dems actually do like Obama, he had 80% approval rating amoungst Dems. Republicans don't like Obama, but that's okay, they didn't like him last time around either.
And they're going to have to keep on disliking him. The GOP is so splintered right now that they don't stand a chance. I am thoroughly enjoying that. Karl Rove was smart, but now he's created a monster. There's a subsection of the GOP that is super far right and won't cooperate, driven by his religious pals. They've got to figure out how to be one big happy family again. I hope it takes a while.0 -
The GOP has gone completely insane. Their Obama hatred is so intense that they would rather have millions more Americans out of work than to hae any of his policies have been successful. They need a good hard slap back into reality. People are already fed up with the elitist attitudes such as Santorum comparing the cost of medicine to an IPad and Romney saying he isn't concerned about the poor. I've voted both Rep and Dem in my time. I didn't vote for Obama last time (yes, I'm aware I've said that before.) but I can't think of a single reason to vote for Romney. I actually did originally intend to vote for him. Then I started actually paying attention to what he's all about and listening to what he said.
Seriously, why would anyone who isn't wealthy vote Republican this time around? Unless someone intends to vote based solely on abortion and/or gays I can't think of any reason.
Recent poll results said that 54% of people reported that the more they learned about romney, the less they liked him (vs 24% who said the opposite).
And we haven't even seriously started talking about Seamus yet.
"I ride inside" www.dogsagainstromney.com
I just don't understand why they picked him. Or at least are on the road to picking him. I guess on paper they think he is moderate enough to be elected by the masses, but in reality, I don't think most people like him, including Republicans. I know there are a few great Republicans out there, I think they're waiting until next time around.
**And people can say that Dems don't like Obama, but currently polls show that most Dems actually do like Obama, he had 80% approval rating amoungst Dems. Republicans don't like Obama, but that's okay, they didn't like him last time around either.
A lot of repubs are just staying home. All of the republican primary numbers (except one state --S Carolina?) are down from 2008. In Nevada, they were down about 25%.
The biggest problem is that republicans are out of the mainstream of american society. They have sold their souls to bigots, religious fundamentalists, large corporations, and the top 1%. In order to win a republican primary, candidates must take such extreme positions, they become unpalatable to the rest of the population.
Republicans have decided they not only want to repeal the Affordable Care Act, they want to repeal pretty much the entire 20h Century. It used to be that republicans like George W Bush knew how to hide their true agendas, and use soothing pablum phrases like "compassionate conservative" to bamboozle the voters. Today's republicans have been living so long in the right-wing echo chamber that they actually think that using phrases such as "I don't care about the very poor", "corporations are people, too" and saying things such as "social security is a ponzi scheme" and "we should replace union workers with child labor" will make them popular with voters.
The tone-deaf approach goes on and on. Case in point is Latino voters. I believe in the late 1980s, even into the 1990s, republicans split the Latino vote with Democrats, or even had a small majority. In order to please the base, however, republican candidates have found it necessary to demonize Latino immigrants and Latinos in general. As a result, Obama won something like 67% of the Latino vote and Latino support for Democrats has increased since then.
Republicans have carried out an ongoing campaign to try to disenfranchise young people, Latinos, and African Americans. It's going to be hard for them to win future national elections when they are bent on alienating not only the younger generations, but also the fastest-growing ethnic group. Longtime republican strategists know this is a recipe for disaster, but having cynically cast their lot with bigots, extremists, and teahadists, they are now having trouble controlling the forces they unleashed.
And, finally, people will eventually realize that republicans have no new ideas. It has become apparent that republicans are more than willing to let the economy go into the tank, let millions of americans suffer--just to try to win an election. And if they do win, they have nothing to offer except the same policies that caused all our problems in the first place--tax cuts for the top 1%, reckless deregulation, squandering of time and effort on social policies that no one wants, and unnecessary wars (Iran).0 -
I cried when Obama was elected. I hope I won't be crying in November. If he gets re-elected, we're ****ed.
Hilarious. Ask most anyone else in the world outside the US and they will say the US and the world is fcuked if you vote for anyone BUT Obama. The poor guy inherited the garbage left behind by two terms of idiocracy and still managed to keep the country from falling into complete chaos while the majority of Europe did. Get your news from somewhere other than Fox and your perspective may change0 -
Hilarious. Ask most anyone else in the world outside the US and they will say the US and the world is fcuked if you vote for anyone BUT Obama. The poor guy inherited the garbage left behind by two terms of idiocracy and still managed to keep the country from falling into complete chaos while the majority of Europe did. Get your news from somewhere other than Fox and your perspective may changeI cried when Obama was elected. I hope I won't be crying in November. If he gets re-elected, we're ****ed.
Oh man, and McCain/Palin on the other side in 2008?! I mean, typical Republican, of course - anti-choice, anti-gay marriage (even supported prop 8), anti-gay adoption (he said "I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no I don’t believe in gay adoption"), supported the teaching of intelligent design (later floundered around about it), Patriot Act supporter, opposition to federal funds for sex ed, against universal health care, and big on financial deregulation (Gramm-Leach-Bliley comes to mind). Alas. ...oh, and Palin? *snort*0 -
I cried when Obama was elected. I hope I won't be crying in November. If he gets re-elected, we're ****ed.
Hilarious. Ask most anyone else in the world outside the US and they will say the US and the world is fcuked if you vote for anyone BUT Obama. The poor guy inherited the garbage left behind by two terms of idiocracy and still managed to keep the country from falling into complete chaos while the majority of Europe did. Get your news from somewhere other than Fox and your perspective may change
Hilarious indeed. People hate to give him credit for the mess he walked into and STILL got things done.0 -
I cried when Obama was elected. I hope I won't be crying in November. If he gets re-elected, we're ****ed.
Where you crying beause they convinced you that Obama was the antichrist too? :P0 -
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Blaming Obama for the mess this country is in is a bit like ransacking your apartment then yelling at your roommate about how messy the place is while he's trying to clean up.0 -
He inherited it, huh? You know that under GWB, the Dem controlled House is who created the situation we are in, right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? A law passed by the Dems which forced banks into giving out loans on a quota basis. Can't afford a mortgage? That's OK, you're poor enough we will just GIVE you 125% financing on a house you can't afford. Wonder why you have no urge to pay the note?
The housing crisis we are in, which was the spark that blew up the damn economy three years ago, was created before Bush ever took office. Remember?
So, if I set a bomb in your house, and you move in, and five years later, the bomb blows up and your house burns down, apparently thats YOUR fault. After all, you were living there when it all went to ****.
The national debt, which Obama criticized Bush for, has been TRIPLED. He promised to fundamentally transform the country. He sure did. Now all of your children owe their souls to Red China. Thanks, Obama.0 -
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Blaming Obama for the mess this country is in is a bit like ransacking your apartment then yelling at your roommate about how messy the place is while he's trying to clean up.
Or, to be more accurate, it's like ransacking your own apartment, then changing your outfit into a janitor uniform, and THEN shouting about this horrible mess you're in.0 -
Umm... no. Are you seriously saying the Republicans had nothing to do with the mess we're in??SFAS:
Blaming Obama for the mess this country is in is a bit like ransacking your apartment then yelling at your roommate about how messy the place is while he's trying to clean up.
Or, to be more accurate, it's like ransacking your own apartment, then changing your outfit into a janitor uniform, and THEN shouting about this horrible mess you're in.0 -
Yes, I've heard of the CRA. You do know it's been around since 1977 right? It wasn't passed under Clinton. Plus, well over half of the sub-prime loans that caused the mortgage crisis were made by banks and firms that weren't even subject to it in the first place. They made them because they wanted the money. It was nothing more than corporate greed.He inherited it, huh? You know that under GWB, the Dem controlled House is who created the situation we are in, right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? A law passed by the Dems which forced banks into giving out loans on a quota basis. Can't afford a mortgage? That's OK, you're poor enough we will just GIVE you 125% financing on a house you can't afford. Wonder why you have no urge to pay the note?
The housing crisis we are in, which was the spark that blew up the damn economy three years ago, was created before Bush ever took office. Remember?
So, if I set a bomb in your house, and you move in, and five years later, the bomb blows up and your house burns down, apparently thats YOUR fault. After all, you were living there when it all went to ****.
The national debt, which Obama criticized Bush for, has been TRIPLED. He promised to fundamentally transform the country. He sure did. Now all of your children owe their souls to Red China. Thanks, Obama.
I find it quite amusing when Republicans think Dems are so incredibly powerful while all but calling their own party weak and inefficient. How else do you account for blaming a crumbled economy on Dems controlling 1 part of the political climate for 2 years when the Reps controlled all of it the other 6? Are the Reps really that weak that they couldn't do anything in those 6 years? Or are the Dems so much more powerful that in 2 years with a bare majority of Congress they were able to undo everything?
Also, if you put a bomb in my house and I'm well aware that it's there (unless you are also saying that the Reps were too stupid to know about a law on the books for the previous few decades) then yes, if I didn't even bother to try to remove it and it went off it is absolutely my fault and my problem.0 -
Yes, I've heard of the CRA. You do know it's been around since 1977 right? It wasn't passed under Clinton.He inherited it, huh? You know that under GWB, the Dem controlled House is who created the situation we are in, right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? A law passed by the Dems which forced banks into giving out loans on a quota basis. Can't afford a mortgage? That's OK, you're poor enough we will just GIVE you 125% financing on a house you can't afford. Wonder why you have no urge to pay the note?
The housing crisis we are in, which was the spark that blew up the damn economy three years ago, was created before Bush ever took office. Remember?
So, if I set a bomb in your house, and you move in, and five years later, the bomb blows up and your house burns down, apparently thats YOUR fault. After all, you were living there when it all went to ****.
The national debt, which Obama criticized Bush for, has been TRIPLED. He promised to fundamentally transform the country. He sure did. Now all of your children owe their souls to Red China. Thanks, Obama.
Didn't say it was Clinton. I said it "was created before Bush ever took office."
I failed to see the part where you defended tripling the debt.......surely just an oversight. I await the explanation of that with worms on my tongue...0 -
So you really do believe that an act passed in 1977 that Bush and the Republican controlled legislature did absolutely nothing about caused a mortgage crisis 30 years after it was passed? And it's the Dems fault because they didn't forsee 30 years into the future but the Reps who ignored it are not at all to blame?
Yes, I've heard of the CRA. You do know it's been around since 1977 right? It wasn't passed under Clinton.He inherited it, huh? You know that under GWB, the Dem controlled House is who created the situation we are in, right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? A law passed by the Dems which forced banks into giving out loans on a quota basis. Can't afford a mortgage? That's OK, you're poor enough we will just GIVE you 125% financing on a house you can't afford. Wonder why you have no urge to pay the note?
The housing crisis we are in, which was the spark that blew up the damn economy three years ago, was created before Bush ever took office. Remember?
So, if I set a bomb in your house, and you move in, and five years later, the bomb blows up and your house burns down, apparently thats YOUR fault. After all, you were living there when it all went to ****.
The national debt, which Obama criticized Bush for, has been TRIPLED. He promised to fundamentally transform the country. He sure did. Now all of your children owe their souls to Red China. Thanks, Obama.
Didn't say it was Clinton. I said it "was created before Bush ever took office."
I failed to see the part where you defended tripling the debt.......surely just an oversight. I await the explanation of that with worms on my tongue...
I did miss the tripling of the debt part. I'm not sure what would matter to you though. You think a Dem controlled portion of the legislative branch for 2 of 8 years under Bush is the reason for bad things happening to the economy but obviously fully intend to blame Obama personally for the state of things today despite a Rep controlled legislative branch. So which is it? Is it the President's fault or is it Congress? If it's the President's fault under Obama then isn't the original crisis the fault of Bush? If it's congress's fault under Bush then is it alson not Congress's fault under Obama? Or are you really saying the Reps are completely weak and inefficient in which case why would anyone ever vote for them?0 -
I blame Obama for the thing he has done, personally. Tripling the debt is just at the top of my list. Obamacare is right under it. Murdering our domestic oil production is another. Rejecting the pipeline, government takeover of GM, Fast and Furiously providing guns to drug cartels in Mexico.....these are just a few of the things HE did, which I hope he will lose his job over.
His economic ideas are a disaster. Ask Europe how well socialism spurs economies.0 -
I blame Obama for the thing he has done, personally. Tripling the debt is just at the top of my list. Obamacare is right under it. Murdering our domestic oil production is another. Rejecting the pipeline, government takeover of GM, Fast and Furiously providing guns to drug cartels in Mexico.....these are just a few of the things HE did, which I hope he will lose his job over.
His economic ideas are a disaster. Ask Europe how well socialism spurs economies.
Care to give substantiated details on any of that, or did the pamphlet not go into specifics?0 -
I blame Obama for the thing he has done, personally. Tripling the debt is just at the top of my list. Obamacare is right under it. Murdering our domestic oil production is another. Rejecting the pipeline, government takeover of GM, Fast and Furiously providing guns to drug cartels in Mexico.....these are just a few of the things HE did, which I hope he will lose his job over.
His economic ideas are a disaster. Ask Europe how well socialism spurs economies.
Care to give substantiated details on any of that, or did the pamphlet not go into specifics?
Which of his actions do you deny? Everything I listed, he did. He didn't inherit any of this. He did it all himself, with the help of pieces of **** like Pelosi.
Tripled the debt. This is factual. Spin away, numbers do not lie.
Obamacare. Sort of obvious, huh? It's even nicknamed for him.
Murdering domestic oil production: While the BP oil spill was churning crude into the Gulf, he banned offshore oil drilling. Because you know, one time, there was an accident, so we should totally squash production, driving prices even higher, because there coud be another accident, someday. It's totally worth the hit to the ecenomy, and the elimination of all those jobs. Right.
Rejected the pipeline, which could again, have brought more jobs and more domestic oil into our economy. Instead, we are more worried about the poor wittle caribou or whatever. Score another point for foriegn oil. I'm sure Saudi Arabis was happy to hear it.
Governmental takeover of GM. Have you been awake in the last three years? I don't see how this could need to be substantiated, but in case you weren't watching, our government has decided to take over a private company. It had no authority to do so, and the government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers, but it did.
Fast and Furious. A gem of an idea. Next up: let's give nuclear weapons to North Korea and we'll track how they use them. What could go wrong? This program directly caused American deaths. It's despicable.
I think it's damn interesting that you never actually address any of my arguments, you just go ad hominem. Is that because there is no good defense for tripling the debt?0 -
How, and compared to what? As a side note, numbers always lie. They are by necessity just a tool of communicating a perspective which cannot ever be objective. You might as well ask someone to simply step outside of their ideology. It can't be done.Tripled the debt. This is factual. Spin away, numbers do not lie.
While we're at it, should we ask Bush why his wars were never on the books?
Feel free to elaborate on how Obama tripled the debt with his actions. Love to hear it. In detail.
Your problem with it isn't obvious. I have my own issues, but I doubt they're the same as yours.Obamacare. Sort of obvious, huh? It's even nicknamed for him.
Ah yes. Trivialize that accident and imply that it doesn't point to obvious problems that we might want to look into. K then.Murdering domestic oil production: While the BP oil spill was churning crude into the Gulf, he banned offshore oil drilling. Because you know, one time, there was an accident, so we should totally squash production, driving prices even higher, because there coud be another accident, someday. It's totally worth the hit to the ecenomy, and the elimination of all those jobs. Right.
I'm sorry I don't quite understand. You obviously don't like what you're perceiving as the result, but you didn't state how disagreed with his rationale.Rejected the pipeline, which could again, have brought more jobs and more domestic oil into our economy. Instead, we are more worried about the poor wittle caribou or whatever. Score another point for foriegn oil. I'm sure Saudi Arabis was happy to hear it.
The government is in the business of saving the private sector from itself when it impacts the people of this country. As it happens, GM runs itself and we, the tax payers, made a tiny profit on those loans, but why bother letting reality factor into things.Governmental takeover of GM. Have you been awake in the last three years? I don't see how this could need to be substantiated, but in case you weren't watching, our government has decided to take over a private company. It had no authority to do so, and the government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers, but it did.
Seriously? I'll simply state that I find your interpretation of reality in opposition to mine. Feel free to use your vote as you like. Your paranoia not withstanding.Fast and Furious. A gem of an idea. Next up: let's give nuclear weapons to North Korea and we'll track how they use them. What could go wrong? This program directly caused American deaths. It's despicable.
I mocked what you said, not you. I would literally have to attack you for my statement to be an ad hom attack. Nice try though.I think it's damn interesting that you never actually address any of my arguments, you just go ad hominem. Is that because there is no good defense for tripling the debt?
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He inherited it, huh? You know that under GWB, the Dem controlled House is who created the situation we are in, right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? A law passed by the Dems which forced banks into giving out loans on a quota basis. Can't afford a mortgage? That's OK, you're poor enough we will just GIVE you 125% financing on a house you can't afford. Wonder why you have no urge to pay the note?
The housing crisis we are in, which was the spark that blew up the damn economy three years ago, was created before Bush ever took office. Remember?
So, if I set a bomb in your house, and you move in, and five years later, the bomb blows up and your house burns down, apparently thats YOUR fault. After all, you were living there when it all went to ****.
The national debt, which Obama criticized Bush for, has been TRIPLED. He promised to fundamentally transform the country. He sure did. Now all of your children owe their souls to Red China. Thanks, Obama.
That isn't even true. The CRA does not have a quota. The CRA requires federally insured Banks that are in particular areas to consider safe loans to people in those areas. If they take their deposits they have to give out some loans to people who qualify. In 1975 the largest Bank in the Bronx would hardly even consider a loan, nearly a million and a half people lived in the Bronx in 1975 and the largest Bank in the Bronx that gladly took peoples deposits only gave out 32 loans. They were plainly discriminating against these people, even when some of them clearly could handle a business or home loan, they were redlining them.
The CRA does not at all require any federal insured bank to make any high risk loan, in fact it stresses just the opposite. At the end of the day, the CRA is 30 years old. There have been no significant changes to it since 1995 and even then there were no quota's. A very small portion of the loans in the meltdown were even under these restrictions. I believe about 80% of these were from Mortgage brokers and banks partners or affiliates who were not even under this federal policy. (Not to imply that 20% if the loans were directly from CRA.)
And Obama's debt, much of it can be attributed to the 2007-2008 collapse, including one useless war, and a variety of other things. Both Democrats and Republicans have fiscall problems, but pretending that the Republicans are more fiscally sound just doesn't add up or have anything to do with the reality of things. All of the finger pointing at the CRA is poor and minority scapegoating.0 -
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How, and compared to what? As a side note, numbers always lie. They are by necessity just a tool of communicating a perspective which cannot ever be objective. You might as well ask someone to simply step outside of their ideology. It can't be done.Tripled the debt. This is factual. Spin away, numbers do not lie.
While we're at it, should we ask Bush why his wars were never on the books?
Feel free to elaborate on how Obama tripled the debt with his actions. Love to hear it. In detail.
Your problem with it isn't obvious. I have my own issues, but I doubt they're the same as yours.Obamacare. Sort of obvious, huh? It's even nicknamed for him.
Ah yes. Trivialize that accident and imply that it doesn't point to obvious problems that we might want to look into. K then.Murdering domestic oil production: While the BP oil spill was churning crude into the Gulf, he banned offshore oil drilling. Because you know, one time, there was an accident, so we should totally squash production, driving prices even higher, because there coud be another accident, someday. It's totally worth the hit to the ecenomy, and the elimination of all those jobs. Right.
I'm sorry I don't quite understand. You obviously don't like what you're perceiving as the result, but you didn't state how disagreed with his rationale.Rejected the pipeline, which could again, have brought more jobs and more domestic oil into our economy. Instead, we are more worried about the poor wittle caribou or whatever. Score another point for foriegn oil. I'm sure Saudi Arabis was happy to hear it.
The government is in the business of saving the private sector from itself when it impacts the people of this country. As it happens, GM runs itself and we, the tax payers, made a tiny profit on those loans, but why bother letting reality factor into things.Governmental takeover of GM. Have you been awake in the last three years? I don't see how this could need to be substantiated, but in case you weren't watching, our government has decided to take over a private company. It had no authority to do so, and the government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers, but it did.
Seriously? I'll simply state that I find your interpretation of reality in opposition to mine. Feel free to use your vote as you like. Your paranoia not withstanding.Fast and Furious. A gem of an idea. Next up: let's give nuclear weapons to North Korea and we'll track how they use them. What could go wrong? This program directly caused American deaths. It's despicable.
I mocked what you said, not you. I would literally have to attack you for my statement to be an ad hom attack. Nice try though.I think it's damn interesting that you never actually address any of my arguments, you just go ad hominem. Is that because there is no good defense for tripling the debt?
Sooooooo your essential answer is "Nuh-uh"0 -
Sooooooo your essential answer is "Nuh-uh"
When you didn't bother providing any evidence (or any supporting information, for that matter) for your initial claims, I'm left with little choice.
You can't really complain when some uses your own rhetorical strategy against you.0 -
While the BP oil spill was churning crude into the Gulf, he banned offshore oil drilling. Because you know, one time, there was an accident, so we should totally squash production, driving prices even higher, because there coud be another accident, someday. It's totally worth the hit to the ecenomy, and the elimination of all those jobs. Right.
I'm sure the people whose livelihoods and businesses were destroyed, thus elimination of jobs going along with that, really appreciate your sentiment.0
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