I can't go to the "regular" forums at all anymore, too frustrating.

I generally don't understand personal attacks on any forum (or blog for that matter) in which people are basically trying to help others. I basically think that when someone doesn't have a good back up or scientific reasoning to support their argument, they resort to personal attacks. sad really

..i think it boils down to what people are willing to give up. they understand giving up sugary stuff..snacky foods..but once you tell them no pasta or bread...all hell breaks loose. i think its those who are still losing..and dont pay attention to any of their macros...just the number of calories..hence..they are eating right.

I have insulin resistance...so I know the right thing is to go low carb cause the way my body uses carbs..the more complex the better. that isnt to say on occasions I do breads and stuff...i choose gluten free..but its the whole 80/20 concept..most people dont get it

I completely agree. I've decided to stop posting as well. People can eat however they want. And I'm going to eat however I want. If people want my advice they can ask me. Meanwhile I'm going to feel freaking great and get great results while they struggle.....

I take comfort from the fact that this is not a new fad. In "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes, He states in the introduction that the concept of a low carb diet was supported, tested and offered to people in the mid to late 1800's. It was also considered to be rational advice in the first part of the 1900's as well. It wasn't until the 50's that medical science took an about face and switched from saying that carbs were bad to saying that fat was bad.

I'm just starting to read this book, but I highly recommend it, along with Dr. Kurt Harris' blog, Archevore. http://www.archevore.com/archevore/

I've lost 28 lbs in 3 weeks following this advice!

Cheers and good luck!

Love. Gary. Taubes. He spells it out so well. Besides Neaderthin by Ray Audette, Gary's, Why we get fat and what to do about it, is probably my favorite Paleo tome.

Banting's story is excellent and so is Vilhjalmur Stefansson's story: http://drbass.com/stefansson1.html.

I too have become dismayed at the personal attacks allowed on myfitnesspal against low-carb and paleo/primal advocates. When people have to resort to gang attacks and childish name-calling to enforce their CW (conventional wisdow), it is the sign of a closed mind. I read a thread recently where a former member, Grokette, was attacked repeatedly by a small group of members and it appears that she has now left the forum. Sad.

So yea I agree, let them go on with their way of doing things while we succeed. Success is the best revenge right? :bigsmile:

Amen sister!!!! I'm stickin' with the Primal peeps! :happy:

Pasta is only the vehicle for the sauce.

So true, just like pizza crust is purely a vehicle for the cheese. :ohwell:

i agree and i'm only on day 3...holy moly i posted that i was starting it and got ravaged geez....and actually looking at my breakfast (2 eggs,berries,3 slices bacon and 1/4 avocado) it was the healthy breakfast i have eaten in a long time...plus i knew that even though i was staying under my calories i was eating crap...i mean i could blow 300 calories on cheezits but was "healthy" cause i was under my calories. Actually its freeing knowing that i can go out to dinner and not have to just eat lettuce...can't wait to have a big juicy steak on my next outing

Yeah, I have stopped posting in the main forums also, because unless you are doing the mainstream dieting that everyone else is doing then they will have something negative to say if not an all out attack on you. My major problem is trying to explain it to family memebers or friends. They see my progress and ask what I am doing so it is unavoidable. If I tell them that I cut out all grains such as bread rice and corn. They automatically jump to the conclusion that I am on Atkins and only eat meat and no carbs and the commnt of " I tried that once and it was too hard to eat meat all the time." Then I tell them no that I eat tons of veggies. Then I get a puzzled look. So i tell them that I eat only natural foods that dont need to be cooked to be eaten kinda like a caveman would do. Another puzzled look comes, followed by "So, you must eat alot of beans because they are really good for you." by this time I am cringing and want to rip my hair out. I try to expalin that beans are not good for you and why, but they are not getting the point. At this point I usually give up on trying to explain, cause unlees you do the required reading you will not understand, or think that it is just some fad diet that is not healthy.