Free will?

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  • Regmama
    Regmama Posts: 399 Member
    But really - if your belief is:
    I know that the Catholic faith teaches that God is Mercy and that we choose our eternity, not by our actions, but at the moment of death, that we are given a choice with full knowledge to choose God and repent or to choose to live eternity without God. But it is a choice of the free will. For those who's lives on earth were not saintly, from the moment of choosing God until entering heaven we are purified of our earthly sins (which as Catholics, we call Purgatory).

    what do you think happens to someone who has worshipped Hindu deities (the Trimurti, Tridevi, and so on - or any other religion, for that matter) when they die? I am sincerely interested - I've never heard anyone's thoughts on this. Ever.
    I believe that most, if not all, will choose God. That they will be saved by Jesus' death and resurrection, that they will choose Truth even though they did not know He who is Truth here on earth.
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
    But really - if your belief is:
    I know that the Catholic faith teaches that God is Mercy and that we choose our eternity, not by our actions, but at the moment of death, that we are given a choice with full knowledge to choose God and repent or to choose to live eternity without God. But it is a choice of the free will. For those who's lives on earth were not saintly, from the moment of choosing God until entering heaven we are purified of our earthly sins (which as Catholics, we call Purgatory).

    what do you think happens to someone who has worshipped Hindu deities (the Trimurti, Tridevi, and so on - or any other religion, for that matter) when they die? I am sincerely interested - I've never heard anyone's thoughts on this. Ever.
    I believe that most, if not all, will choose God. That they will be saved by Jesus' death and resurrection, that they will choose Truth even though they did not know He who is Truth here on earth.
    What if, once you die, you learn that the Truth is Hindi? Will you disavow Christianity and all you believed your entire life if you are shown that you were wrong?
  • MikeSEA
    MikeSEA Posts: 1,074 Member

    What if, once you die, you learn that the Truth is Hindi? Will you disavow Christianity and all you believed your entire life if you are shown that you were wrong?

    lol, you know you're not going to like the answer you get from this :)

    Faith, choosing to believe something is true in the absence of evidence, precludes the option for being rational--rational in the classical sense of the word, that is.

    The answer you'd likely get from a true believer in Christ would probably be something similar to: "But that's not what's going to happen because it isn't what I accept as truth."

    It's lacks a certain imagination, I feel, but that's the problem with choosing to believe that one religion has it right instead of accepting the infinite possibilities that exist in the universe--or at least near infinite.
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    But really - if your belief is:
    I know that the Catholic faith teaches that God is Mercy and that we choose our eternity, not by our actions, but at the moment of death, that we are given a choice with full knowledge to choose God and repent or to choose to live eternity without God. But it is a choice of the free will. For those who's lives on earth were not saintly, from the moment of choosing God until entering heaven we are purified of our earthly sins (which as Catholics, we call Purgatory).

    what do you think happens to someone who has worshipped Hindu deities (the Trimurti, Tridevi, and so on - or any other religion, for that matter) when they die? I am sincerely interested - I've never heard anyone's thoughts on this. Ever.
    I believe that most, if not all, will choose God. That they will be saved by Jesus' death and resurrection, that they will choose Truth even though they did not know He who is Truth here on earth.
    What if, once you die, you learn that the Truth is Hindi? Will you disavow Christianity and all you believed your entire life if you are shown that you were wrong?

    I saw on South Park that the correct answer is: Mormon. So.......yeah. :wink:
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
    But really - if your belief is:
    I know that the Catholic faith teaches that God is Mercy and that we choose our eternity, not by our actions, but at the moment of death, that we are given a choice with full knowledge to choose God and repent or to choose to live eternity without God. But it is a choice of the free will. For those who's lives on earth were not saintly, from the moment of choosing God until entering heaven we are purified of our earthly sins (which as Catholics, we call Purgatory).

    what do you think happens to someone who has worshipped Hindu deities (the Trimurti, Tridevi, and so on - or any other religion, for that matter) when they die? I am sincerely interested - I've never heard anyone's thoughts on this. Ever.
    I believe that most, if not all, will choose God. That they will be saved by Jesus' death and resurrection, that they will choose Truth even though they did not know He who is Truth here on earth.
    What if, once you die, you learn that the Truth is Hindi? Will you disavow Christianity and all you believed your entire life if you are shown that you were wrong?

    I saw on South Park that the correct answer is: Mormon. So.......yeah. :wink:
    I LOVE South Park! I really want to see Book of Mormon. It's supposed to be wonderful.
  • atomiclauren
    atomiclauren Posts: 689 Member
    I saw this on imgur - I need to see the next page!

    http://i.imgur.com/c84oE.jpg
  • DieVixen
    DieVixen Posts: 790 Member
    God gives us free will & his followers try to take it away
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    I saw this on imgur - I need to see the next page!

    http://i.imgur.com/c84oE.jpg

    That is just digusting.
  • mikajoanow
    mikajoanow Posts: 584 Member
    I saw this on imgur - I need to see the next page!

    http://i.imgur.com/c84oE.jpg

    That is just digusting.
    lol What was it? I am afraid to open it! lol
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    I saw this on imgur - I need to see the next page!

    http://i.imgur.com/c84oE.jpg

    That is just digusting.
    lol What was it? I am afraid to open it! lol

    Propaganda from some christian book.
  • atomiclauren
    atomiclauren Posts: 689 Member
    To sum up my feelings on everything, perhaps, and touching on the comments earlier about Hinduism and "last chance salvation at the gates of the Christian God" or whatever you'd like to call it, with so many options for religious post-mortem happenings, what are the chances that any one of them is "correct?"

    Slim to none, I'd say.

    and in short:
    vqptn4.jpg
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Here's what's ironic. When the religious say "god has a plan for you". How the hell can god have a plan (this would imply you're a puppet) yet you have free will? The only way you would have free will at that point is if you KNEW about the plan and had free will to reject it or not. But of course NO ONE really knows what god's plan is.
    So if god has a plan for you, your free will isn't real.


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