Anyone else done with their diabetes?
bigbeardiver
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As much as I like everyone here, I would love to click that "Leave Group" button some day. Not to diss anyone but because I'd like to not need a Type 2 Diabetes Support Group.
I'm done struggling with medications, sugar spikes, monitoring, poking myself, figuring out the glycemic indicator on everything from foods I don't enjoy eating but I do because I should down to the foods I love and miss. I'm tired of the headaches, mood swings, aches and pains.
As I've been working out very intensely for 8 weeks I've been disappointed by the lack of progress my body has made. I've expected more fat loss, more muscle gains, etc. Yes I'm stronger and can lift more weights and feel healthier but I still have all the stuff listed above to deal with.
I'm wondering if I eliminated carbs for awhile what effect it would have. I've noticed my sugar has been much lower in the last few weeks, even thinking of stopping my meds, well I should say I stopped them as of today and want to see how I feel over the next few weeks. Yes, of course I pledge to monitor myself closely during that time and I expect to hit the highest stress levels I could ever imagine in my life for the next three weeks so my timing of doing this might be poor.
Anyone try reducing carb intake to zero? What did you discover?
I'm done struggling with medications, sugar spikes, monitoring, poking myself, figuring out the glycemic indicator on everything from foods I don't enjoy eating but I do because I should down to the foods I love and miss. I'm tired of the headaches, mood swings, aches and pains.
As I've been working out very intensely for 8 weeks I've been disappointed by the lack of progress my body has made. I've expected more fat loss, more muscle gains, etc. Yes I'm stronger and can lift more weights and feel healthier but I still have all the stuff listed above to deal with.
I'm wondering if I eliminated carbs for awhile what effect it would have. I've noticed my sugar has been much lower in the last few weeks, even thinking of stopping my meds, well I should say I stopped them as of today and want to see how I feel over the next few weeks. Yes, of course I pledge to monitor myself closely during that time and I expect to hit the highest stress levels I could ever imagine in my life for the next three weeks so my timing of doing this might be poor.
Anyone try reducing carb intake to zero? What did you discover?
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My dietician told me never to do that. Carbs are our fuel, with out them we lose protein and then muscle. I do understand your frustration. I lost 60 pounds easily and now these next 7 have like been hammering with a chisel. It takes so long and this plateau is really making me frustrated. My sugars are great but I wouldn't stop my meds without my doc knowing. I think as diabetics it just will take us longer to lose because we can't process that sugar like other can, but don't give up. We will be the bette for it in the end.0
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As you know I have lost a lot of weight and in an ideal world I should be off of meds due to the wonderful science of the body I am one of those people who will never process insulin correctly. I have tried testing after missing one does and I noticed I was headed back where I started.
As for going to no Carbs you think your head hurts now you may pass out. It's not a good idea. Maybe you should ask about changing your meds. I take Janumet now its a combo med attacks from two ends. Nothing ever worked for me before this. I think you should talk to your doctor about trying a new medication. My body sugars are prefect. Even my doctor was amazed at my last 6 month test.
People can leave the group but there isn't a sure cure they aren't diabetes free it's like being in remission once you go back to old habits it will sneak right back up on you. I think have a support group to lean on is great I have never had something like this before. I went to the diabetes educator but they don't know what I feel what i'm going to through my frustrations they only know what they have learned through whatever training they had. I have learned so much more n my own since then.
I've learned you don't have to miss anything there is a way to enjoy things you loved in a healthy safe way. Hang in there it gets better and even becomes second nature after a while.0 -
Oh boy..don't give up!!
Can you open your food diary so I can take a peak?? How many carbs are you eating per day? Per meal..per snack? Are you doing low carb..i.e. less than 100g carbs/day?
Yes, low carb is definitely the way to go...but zero carbs is tough to acheive. I believe even Atkins is 20g per day.
I try to keep meals less than 45g and snacks less than 25g. This is way less than the Canadian guidelines...not sure about US. I find registered dieticians frustrating as they just tow the government food guide...which is generally too much carbs! Read the book...Why we Get Fat and What to do about it.
The most notable side affect of reducing carbs as low as possible is constipation...so consider a fiber supplement and drink LOTS of water when you do that.
Personally, I wouldn't change two major things at once..aka...go off my meds AND change my diet. It's like a scientific experiment when you think of it...you can't change too many variables at once as you will have trouble understanding the affects of each individual change.
Message me and we can discuss this more...don't give up!!!0 -
Anyone try reducing carb intake to zero? What did you discover?
When I took the T2D class after I was diagnosed, one of the main things that I took from that was the fact that the human brain runs SOLELY on carbs. So going no carbs means no brain food.
I'm with you on being tired of meds and testing and everything that comes with this stupid disease. For me, it was like my bod'ys way of taking all the years of playing oblivious to what I ate and being inactive, and shoving them in my face. Or like being on an expressway and ignoring all of the exit signs until it was too late.
I tried going no meds, but ultimately I decided that I did not want to undo my hard work getting down to an A1c of 6.5.0 -
Well I started on Saturday trying to get no carbs, I don't think it is possible to hit NO carbs but it is a goal to attain, right? Overall I've reduced my carb percentatge to 15-30% the last few days. I feel amazing. No foggy head. I realize it is bad to "play" with diet, exercise and meds. Back in the day before treating this I would have made less informed decisions. Obviously no one can sustain low carbs for long periods of time but I believe my meds are screwing with my metabolism.
Given my base metabolic rate, my normal intake of food, my exercise level, etc. all my trainers and nutrionist agree I should have been dropping a good steady 2 lbs per week over the last 10 weeks. Instead I lost nothing the first 5 weeks and then 13 lbs the last 5 weeks.
If nothing else I want to shake up the normal case of things for 2-3 weeks and see what the results are. Given the stressful 2 weeks I have coming up, stress alone should be my undoing. If eating low carbs for two weeks starves my brain, that might be a good thing so I forget about this time.Anyone try reducing carb intake to zero? What did you discover?
When I took the T2D class after I was diagnosed, one of the main things that I took from that was the fact that the human brain runs SOLELY on carbs. So going no carbs means no brain food.
I'm with you on being tired of meds and testing and everything that comes with this stupid disease. For me, it was like my bod'ys way of taking all the years of playing oblivious to what I ate and being inactive, and shoving them in my face. Or like being on an expressway and ignoring all of the exit signs until it was too late.
I tried going no meds, but ultimately I decided that I did not want to undo my hard work getting down to an A1c of 6.5.0 -
I consider myself blessed to have been diagnosed with type II over 10 yrs ago. Diabetes I could control on my own.... other more serious diseases would have required medical interventions. I taught myself better appreciation of healthy foods and veggies-fruits. Gave me opportunity to discover for myself evil of starchy carbs, excessive intake of sugars, and artificial sweeteners. Down from 96 kilos to current 64.... I'm in better health now than I was ever. I didn't do it by eliminating but by controlling intake of foods and grains high in carbs, veggies-fruits an exception. Speaking strictly for myself. My fasting blood sugar has been in the range of between 4/72 to 5/90 for some time now. I check blood sugar levels once or twice a day. I succumb to temptations, never had willpower. IF I CAN DO IT.... ANYONE CAN DO IT!0
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I often feel that way. 13 years. Common sense diet has never worked with my blood sugars. No amount of exercise has ever really worked well either. In fact, I've been having high BS all day from stepping up my exercise. It is so discouraging at times that I just want to give up. But I know I can't.
I'm glad you have decided not to mess with your meds. Unless you are dropping very low like into the 50s a lot I think you should keep taking them for now. If lows become a problem then maybe cut back on your dose.
There are many people who cannot be controlled by diet so don't beat yourself up. Your insulin resistance is most likely affecting your weight loss but if you are not taking metformin that might actually make it worse unless you are in a crisis. I've known people who were up above 400 most of the time and they started dropping weight like crazy. Not a good way to lose it. Met is often helpful with weightloss.
Low carb may help you. You will find that many diabetes professionals will tell you that you need to eat lots of carbs. You don't. You need to find the level that you can operate on and keep you BS in the best control you can. Atkins can be helpful with that. If you read the new Atkins stuff it pretty much is induction for a couple weeks then start adding carbs back in until you find the right level.
No carbs are pretty impossible since even lettuce has carbs. And protein converts to glucose, just at a slower rate. So basically to eliminate all sources of glucose, you would have to eat a can of Crisco. Even then, your body may start to convert your muscle.
For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.0 -
Sharonks wrote:
For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.
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I don't mean to sound harsh but I would seriously consider switching doctors. Having your BS sporadically spike above 200 is definitely more harmful than the possibility of low BS. All you have to do is take your BS 3-4 days to determine what's causing the highs & lows and your meds can be adjusted accordingly. While doing this, you'll be able to learn to listen to your body's signals, however small they may be. There's no reason why anyone should be having spikes if the illness is under control and it seems as though your doc isn't aggressive enough with treatment. I realize insurance is a problem but I have researched it and there are programs out there that can help. You can also go online directly to the drug companies. they offer assistance for those in need. He can also prescribe glyburide as a secondary med until your numbers are back within the normal range. It is extremely inexpensive, $12.00 for a 3 month supply. Good luck.0 -
I am type 2 diagnosed in 2008. I have recently gone off my meds WITH DOCTOR APPROVAL. If you are stalling you may be eating too LITTLE. Yeah I know it is counter-intuitive. Been reading on this site alot about how too few calories can signal a starvation mode and make your metabolism shut down. I know in the past, my daughter had the most success (WW) when she staggered a big day once in five. So one day in five she would eat exercise calories and saved points. The other days she stayed on the low side. I just started with MFP on Tuesday but it makes it so much easier to watch the carbs, calories and protein.0
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Sharonks wrote:
For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.
I don't mean to sound harsh but I would seriously consider switching doctors. Having your BS sporadically spike above 200 is definitely more harmful than the possibility of low BS. All you have to do is take your BS 3-4 days to determine what's causing the highs & lows and your meds can be adjusted accordingly. While doing this, you'll be able to learn to listen to your body's signals, however small they may be. There's no reason why anyone should be having spikes if the illness is under control and it seems as though your doc isn't aggressive enough with treatment. I realize insurance is a problem but I have researched it and there are programs out there that can help. You can also go online directly to the drug companies. they offer assistance for those in need. He can also prescribe glyburide as a secondary med until your numbers are back within the normal range. It is extremely inexpensive, $12.00 for a 3 month supply. Good luck.
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I'm poor and my insurance isn't accepted by a lot of offices. He is one of the best drs. in it. The thing that is good about him is that if I present him with a problem and he doesn't know much about it he is willing to learn and he will often do some research so that the next time i see him he has more info. I can keep my BS below 200 by cutting out pretty much all carbs. I go and see him in a couple more months. At that point I'm going to push him a little more. The problem is that my BS can range from a low of 90 to a high of 175 (this is when I restrict net carbs to about 35) just because. His fear is that by giving me something besides met that instead of 90 I'll go hypo.
My diabetes has never been all that traditional. I was 34 when I was diagnosed and was within normal weight range. I was also very active. It was never possible to control with diet alone. Since I was tested every year for the 10 years prior to diagnosis we know exactly when I crossed the line to diabetes.
I guess in comparison to patients who eat whatever they want and don't exercise I have stellar number. My problem is that my numbers are pretty awful for someone who works really hard at managing my carb intake. I splurged and went out to dinner last night. I ate a completely low carb meal but I splurged and ate this little biscuit. My fasting was 135 this morning. I am working on cutting bread and fruit out of my diet now. I know this isn't that healthy but don't have any other way to keep my BS down.0 -
Sharonks:
Check out the link below. I viewed a few days of your diary and calculated your fat intake to be around 40%. It's actually set for more fats than carbs. It may not be the carbs that's raising your BS. The body needs carbs to function properly. Fat creates insulin resistance. I have mine set very low, 15% (this way if I go over a few grams I know it's still ok). I hope this helps you.
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/eating-out/the-skinny-on-diabetes-and-fat.html0 -
Thank you for the suggestion. I've actually spent most of my life as a moderate whole grain carb, lots of veggies, low sodium and low fat person. Since i was diagnosed while eating that kind of diet and have had no success with it this last year when my sugars started rising again I don't think it is the fat. I pretty much don't watch the fat I eat now and it bugged me to see how much over MFPs numbers I was. If I eat a cup of pasta with tomato sauce I'll hit around 175. A cup of oatmeal can put me over 200. If I lower my fat intake then I'm always hungry. Fat also seem to keep my blood sugar in better control. If I eat a piece of cheese before bed my fastings are about 115. If I eat celery then they be 125 or more. ACE standard says they should be 110, something I rarely achieve. I have also found that if I don't each much fat during the day I can't attain the 140 2 hrs pp very easily.
I also thought that it was body fat that could increase resistance, not so much the dietary fat. Obviously, if you eat lots of fat you may also have body fat. I have some body fat but am within a normal weight range. I figured it wouldn't hurt for me to take off a few more pounds and make it to a lower percentage. I am currently a size 3 but working back to size 1 which I generally get there around 120. 115 takes me to a 0 although a bit snug. I hate trying to find clothes any smaller than a 0 so plan on stopping there.0 -
Bigbear:
I'm so with you on this. I really hope my labs come back great at the end of the week. When I filled up my weekly pill box last Wednesday, I forgot to add the metformin. I have so many vitamins and didn't even notice it, which is very unusual for me. Anyway, it happened to be that Thursday was the 1st day not taking it and Friday was when I went to get my labwork done. I was surprised that my morning reading was 101 b/c they've been running in the low 90's/high 80's. I just disregarded it b/c it was still a good number. I actually didn't realize until this morning what I had done. My numbers since have been around 113, 115 and I had a pigfest this weekend b/c of a family b-day. With that said, I decided to lower my dose in half to 500 twice a day instead of 1000. I go to the doc at the end of April.
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Sharonks:
I've read/heard that having protein as an evening snack helps keep the morning reading low. I don't have any personal experience with it. I usually have a Quaker granola bar around 8:00pm. Honestly can't say if it helps the numbers or not. I just know it satisfies me enough to not get hungry later in the evening.0 -
For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.
Between 9-18 months ago I rarely saw a number under 200. I averaged 235 and my spikes were 300-400 on a regular basis. BTW that was on metformin 500x1. It wasn't until I started a metformin + glybruride combonation that things started to change. Obviously because the drugs do different things one controls sugar in the blood the other insulin resistence issues.0 -
I've stopped all medications. I test once a week or if I feel bad and I'm usually within a normal range. I stopped blacking out at the gym from low blood sugar, I think it takes time for things to balance out.
I did the low carb thing for a few weeks, during which time I changed my exercise routine as well as suffered a few injuries (hurt my heal so I couldn't do cardio) with all those changes I ended up gaining 1 lb per week (5 lbs) and 1% body fat overall. So it was not all lean muscle mass, it may have been some.
Last week I started a new eating plan so we will see how it goes. Depending on how this 5 weeks go I will adjust and try something new.Bigbear:
I'm so with you on this. I really hope my labs come back great at the end of the week. When I filled up my weekly pill box last Wednesday, I forgot to add the metformin. I have so many vitamins and didn't even notice it, which is very unusual for me. Anyway, it happened to be that Thursday was the 1st day not taking it and Friday was when I went to get my labwork done. I was surprised that my morning reading was 101 b/c they've been running in the low 90's/high 80's. I just disregarded it b/c it was still a good number. I actually didn't realize until this morning what I had done. My numbers since have been around 113, 115 and I had a pigfest this weekend b/c of a family b-day. With that said, I decided to lower my dose in half to 500 twice a day instead of 1000. I go to the doc at the end of April.
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I've stopped all medications. I test once a week or if I feel bad and I'm usually within a normal range. I stopped blacking out at the gym from low blood sugar, I think it takes time for things to balance out.
I did the low carb thing for a few weeks, during which time I changed my exercise routine as well as suffered a few injuries (hurt my heal so I couldn't do cardio) with all those changes I ended up gaining 1 lb per week (5 lbs) and 1% body fat overall. So it was not all lean muscle mass, it may have been some.
Last week I started a new eating plan so we will see how it goes. Depending on how this 5 weeks go I will adjust and try something new.
Bigbear:
I'm so with you on this. I really hope my labs come back great at the end of the week. When I filled up my weekly pill box last Wednesday, I forgot to add the metformin. I have so many vitamins and didn't even notice it, which is very unusual for me. Anyway, it happened to be that Thursday was the 1st day not taking it and Friday was when I went to get my labwork done. I was surprised that my morning reading was 101 b/c they've been running in the low 90's/high 80's. I just disregarded it b/c it was still a good number. I actually didn't realize until this morning what I had done. My numbers since have been around 113, 115 and I had a pigfest this weekend b/c of a family b-day. With that said, I decided to lower my dose in half to 500 twice a day instead of 1000. I go to the doc at the end of April.
How's your carb reduction coming along?
I had pancreatitis in 2008 and they put me on glyburide. I had to check my bs several times a day. That stuff works a little too good. Sorry to hear about your injuries. Just be careful being that you stopped all meds. You should probably still be checking each morning for your fasting bs. It creeps up fast.0 -
Sharonks wrote:
For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.
I don't mean to sound harsh but I would seriously consider switching doctors. Having your BS sporadically spike above 200 is definitely more harmful than the possibility of low BS. All you have to do is take your BS 3-4 days to determine what's causing the highs & lows and your meds can be adjusted accordingly. While doing this, you'll be able to learn to listen to your body's signals, however small they may be. There's no reason why anyone should be having spikes if the illness is under control and it seems as though your doc isn't aggressive enough with treatment. I realize insurance is a problem but I have researched it and there are programs out there that can help. You can also go online directly to the drug companies. they offer assistance for those in need. He can also prescribe glyburide as a secondary med until your numbers are back within the normal range. It is extremely inexpensive, $12.00 for a 3 month supply. Good luck.
I'm poor and my insurance isn't accepted by a lot of offices. He is one of the best drs. in it. The thing that is good about him is that if I present him with a problem and he doesn't know much about it he is willing to learn and he will often do some research so that the next time i see him he has more info. I can keep my BS below 200 by cutting out pretty much all carbs. I go and see him in a couple more months. At that point I'm going to push him a little more. The problem is that my BS can range from a low of 90 to a high of 175 (this is when I restrict net carbs to about 35) just because. His fear is that by giving me something besides met that instead of 90 I'll go hypo.
My diabetes has never been all that traditional. I was 34 when I was diagnosed and was within normal weight range. I was also very active. It was never possible to control with diet alone. Since I was tested every year for the 10 years prior to diagnosis we know exactly when I crossed the line to diabetes.
I guess in comparison to patients who eat whatever they want and don't exercise I have stellar number. My problem is that my numbers are pretty awful for someone who works really hard at managing my carb intake. I splurged and went out to dinner last night. I ate a completely low carb meal but I splurged and ate this little biscuit. My fasting was 135 this morning. I am working on cutting bread and fruit out of my diet now. I know this isn't that healthy but don't have any other way to keep my BS down.
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I have nearly the same range as you, my fasting is 115ish, with lows down to 85 or 90 and some spikes up to 167. These I'm not happy with. I was having lows down to 60 on Glipizide ER but the doctor let me go off of that at the beginning of the month and now I'm just on Victoza 1.8mg a day. I think I've finally narrowed down the culprit of my morning high and my last evening high (besides one that was totally obvious) was from a small potato, lol. Guess those are OUT of my diet now
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For me, lowering carbs to about 65 total per day and an increase in Met to 2000 mg has helped my BS. Sadly, if I go much above that or think that I can eat things like noodles, potatoes, or more than 1 piece of bread a few days a week, and more than 1 fruit per day I usually pay for it. Yes, I should be on more drugs. I have bad insurance and my current dr (I do love him to death) feels that the risk of severe hypo with more meds is more important than spikes to 200. I rarely spike like that anymore since I just don't eat hardly any carbs.
Between 9-18 months ago I rarely saw a number under 200. I averaged 235 and my spikes were 300-400 on a regular basis. BTW that was on metformin 500x1. It wasn't until I started a metformin + glybruride combonation that things started to change. Obviously because the drugs do different things one controls sugar in the blood the other insulin resistence issues.
If you have good insurance Victoza is amazing, but expensive without it. It slows food digestion, I believe how fast it leaves the stomach and how fast it travels through the digestive track, so it slows how fast sugar enters your blood stream. This is the only med I'm on and I have '0' side effects from it. My last A1C was 5.8, but I'm still working on some morning spikes, which I believe is from my creamer...I usually have 1 Tbsp of reg flavored creamer in my coffee in the morning. I think my diabetes does not appreciate the 5 carbs of liquid sugar, lol.0 -
Try a more plant based diet...and eat healthy meats...try to eliminate beef and pork and just do fish and chicken along with high fiber, like oatmeal, whole grain stuff, not processed....and if you eliminate meds , keep the metphormin and januvia types for a while and let go of the glyburide type first...hope this helps..i have done these things and my blood sugars have went from a fasting 240-280 down to 130-120's!!! it works...0
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I tried going carb free one time but found it difficult to eliminate all carbs and stressed out over what to eat. My goal is to eat more veggies and reduce the white carbs in my intake. One thing I have learned with MFP is patience and persistence. They both are required to be a success story.0
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I tried going carb free one time but found it difficult to eliminate all carbs and stressed out over what to eat. My goal is to eat more veggies and reduce the white carbs in my intake. One thing I have learned with MFP is patience and persistence. They both are required to be a success story.
Just be careful that what you see on MFP may not be correct. If you look at diaries and just something as simple as an egg and some are listed at 70 calories some 135 per egg. I verify all numbers first then, just use the same thing. When my girlfriend switches brands of stuff it drives me nuts because then I have to change all my meals.0 -
I tried going carb free one time but found it difficult to eliminate all carbs and stressed out over what to eat. My goal is to eat more veggies and reduce the white carbs in my intake. One thing I have learned with MFP is patience and persistence. They both are required to be a success story.
Yup, I feel like all I ever do is think about what I'm eating, when I'm eating it, when I'm exercising to counteract what I'm eating. I really don't feel all that great on really low carb. I think I need more salt and fat. I drink bouillon if I need some energy and that is helping. I'm broke for a few more days so can't go get some avocados or nuts til then.
Today, I foolishly tried to eat 2 corn tortillas with my lunch. Sometimes I can get away with a bit of carbs mid day but that wasn't a good thing, went up to 166 so won't try that one again.
I'm not sure that slowing my digestion down would help. If I eat something like pasta that has a longer digestion time I just shoot up high at 3 hrs instead of 2.
The dr. is testing C. Peptides to see if that will tell us anything. I would rather he just put me on a low dose of insulin. I really don't trust a lot of the other meds besides met.
Bigbear, I'm glad things are getting better for you. I get a little depressed about my diabetes too. Especially when nothing I do makes it better. I go through this every time things reach a point I need new or more meds.0
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