TROUBLE....
ARMom8251
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I started trying this a while back, and I did ok. I got past the "flu" and everything, but for some reason I didn't stick to it. After this weekends birthday party disaster....me eating way past terrible, I spent all of Sunday and today even, feeling physically sick. Why in the world would I continue to do this to my body over and over, and how in the world did I eat this way for years and still survive. Its amazing to me how little changes in your diet can affect your body in such good or bad ways. It was even amazing how much better my kids felt while I was having the whole family try paleo out, and now I am finding even they are complaining about tummy issues. I guess the hardest part with kids is trying to find foods they can live with. No bread, no dairy(well in large amounts for them), no sugar( for kids a big thing), this is a big adjustment for adults so for children its very hard. I am having a lot of trouble getting them adjusted to this lifestyle and I need help! I was wondering if any of you had your whole family on this, and how you got your kids to accept and like this? I know for me its just a mind set I have to just do it no excuses, but I know it would be easier for me if the whole family was on board, so ideas are welcome!
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I can give no personal input - but these are some popular blogs.
http://theprimalparent.com/
http://www.cavekitchen.com/p/paleo-kids.html
http://everydaypaleo.com/2011/04/08/paleo-kids/
I've talked with several people that have said, "I want to go paleo, but I can't because I have kids".. So your kids don't deserve to eat healthy too? I always found that logic confusing. I'm sure it is hard to get kids off grain because they are so addicted - but knowing what gluten and other proteins are doing to their bodies it is the right thing to do.
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I can give no personal input - but these are some popular blogs.
http://theprimalparent.com/
http://www.cavekitchen.com/p/paleo-kids.html
http://everydaypaleo.com/2011/04/08/paleo-kids/
I've talked with several people that have said, "I want to go paleo, but I can't because I have kids".. So your kids don't deserve to eat healthy too? I always found that logic confusing. I'm sure it is hard to get kids off grain because they are so addicted - but knowing what gluten and other proteins are doing to their bodies it is the right thing to do.
Best of luck in your families journey
Thank you so much for these blogs...I could really use these, and yes I want my kids in better health than I was. I want them to have a foundation to start from...unlike what I had!0 -
I have been eating a primal slant since November and Paleo for the past month...
I have 2 kids who are almost 11...While I encourage them to try some of the things I make I don't force them...I had such eating issues as a kid (being forced to eat stuff I found nasty and being forced to clean my plate - which I am only now trying to reverse) I don't want to force them to eat something they don't want but I do want it to be open and avialable to them...
I attempt to make them choose healthier items and they usually do...right now we are having issues due to mouthful of orthodonics so certain fruits and veggies they loved to eat they can't bite and eat with thier metal...I will spend a little more to get a higher quality kid food item (like the more expensive hot dogs that are all beef and not full of nitrates).
Right now a lot of nights I have a meal for my husband and I and they have one for themselves...some nights it's a no brainer - if we are having steak or roasted chicken - they are having it as well...We do make them take at least a bite of everything and they have found a few things they do like (like tuna steaks and sweet potato/onion/cauliflower hash)...and stuff they don't...for me I see it as a learning process - it would be one things if they were toddlers and I still had a chance of revamping thier eating habits - but telling them they can't have a turkey sandwich now...forget it - that would cause mutiney in our house...
What I am hoping is that by me slowly teaching them what are good foods vs "treats" they will learn over time - they are very good in regards to treats and don't go overboard at all and I am hoping as they get older and expand thier eating habits a bit more they will be inclined to CHOOSE to eat the way I do.
My one daughter has lactose/casien issues so she has already learned that sometimes she can't eat all the things her friends do and what happens if she chooses to make decisions (like chooseing to have ice cream = big stomach ache an hour later)0 -
I have been eating a primal slant since November and Paleo for the past month...
I have 2 kids who are almost 11...While I encourage them to try some of the things I make I don't force them...I had such eating issues as a kid (being forced to eat stuff I found nasty and being forced to clean my plate - which I am only now trying to reverse) I don't want to force them to eat something they don't want but I do want it to be open and avialable to them...
I attempt to make them choose healthier items and they usually do...right now we are having issues due to mouthful of orthodonics so certain fruits and veggies they loved to eat they can't bite and eat with thier metal...I will spend a little more to get a higher quality kid food item (like the more expensive hot dogs that are all beef and not full of nitrates).
Right now a lot of nights I have a meal for my husband and I and they have one for themselves...some nights it's a no brainer - if we are having steak or roasted chicken - they are having it as well...We do make them take at least a bite of everything and they have found a few things they do like (like tuna steaks and sweet potato/onion/cauliflower hash)...and stuff they don't...for me I see it as a learning process - it would be one things if they were toddlers and I still had a chance of revamping thier eating habits - but telling them they can't have a turkey sandwich now...forget it - that would cause mutiney in our house...
What I am hoping is that by me slowly teaching them what are good foods vs "treats" they will learn over time - they are very good in regards to treats and don't go overboard at all and I am hoping as they get older and expand thier eating habits a bit more they will be inclined to CHOOSE to eat the way I do.
My one daughter has lactose/casien issues so she has already learned that sometimes she can't eat all the things her friends do and what happens if she chooses to make decisions (like chooseing to have ice cream = big stomach ache an hour later)
I know that at least one of my youngest has dairy issues. When he was born until about two he couldn't touch dairy products, and they said he would probably grow out of that. He did get to the point where he could eat those things without breaking out in hives, but I wonder if he still has that allergy just not serious. He doesn't eat a lot of dairy or drink it either, but when he does it bothers him. It makes me worry about my other kids as well and at this point the many problems they have been having I am just inclines to try this out, but not to the strict structure I obviously need.0 -
I have been eating a primal slant since November and Paleo for the past month...
I have 2 kids who are almost 11...While I encourage them to try some of the things I make I don't force them...I had such eating issues as a kid (being forced to eat stuff I found nasty and being forced to clean my plate - which I am only now trying to reverse) I don't want to force them to eat something they don't want but I do want it to be open and avialable to them...
I attempt to make them choose healthier items and they usually do...right now we are having issues due to mouthful of orthodonics so certain fruits and veggies they loved to eat they can't bite and eat with thier metal...I will spend a little more to get a higher quality kid food item (like the more expensive hot dogs that are all beef and not full of nitrates).
Right now a lot of nights I have a meal for my husband and I and they have one for themselves...some nights it's a no brainer - if we are having steak or roasted chicken - they are having it as well...We do make them take at least a bite of everything and they have found a few things they do like (like tuna steaks and sweet potato/onion/cauliflower hash)...and stuff they don't...for me I see it as a learning process - it would be one things if they were toddlers and I still had a chance of revamping thier eating habits - but telling them they can't have a turkey sandwich now...forget it - that would cause mutiney in our house...
What I am hoping is that by me slowly teaching them what are good foods vs "treats" they will learn over time - they are very good in regards to treats and don't go overboard at all and I am hoping as they get older and expand thier eating habits a bit more they will be inclined to CHOOSE to eat the way I do.
My one daughter has lactose/casien issues so she has already learned that sometimes she can't eat all the things her friends do and what happens if she chooses to make decisions (like chooseing to have ice cream = big stomach ache an hour later)
I know that at least one of my youngest has dairy issues. When he was born until about two he couldn't touch dairy products, and they said he would probably grow out of that. He did get to the point where he could eat those things without breaking out in hives, but I wonder if he still has that allergy just not serious. He doesn't eat a lot of dairy or drink it either, but when he does it bothers him. It makes me worry about my other kids as well and at this point the many problems they have been having I am just inclines to try this out, but not to the strict structure I obviously need.
My one with Lactose/Casian issues had milk protien issues as a baby and had to be on soy...when she moved to milk products she didnt' drink a whole bunch and wasn't inclined to eating loads of dairy products (except of course ice cream)...ever since she was young she had complained of stomach aches and had excema...we sort of brushed off the stomach aches since the majority of them were around bedtime...we figured it might be a stall tactic (looking back...most of the time it was an hour after they had some sort of ice cream for desert....)
Anyway about 2 years ago her excema got way worse to the point her hands were cracking open...she was having bathroom issues and loads of stomach aches and head aches...around this time was also when she discovered she loved Yoplait whipped yogurt, cheese sticks and it was late winter and my girls were eating grilled cheese and tomato soup (made with milk) a lot...
I took to the trusty internet and with all her little complaints it pointed to lactose and/or casien intolerance...
Went to a GI dr. and they did a ton of blood tests for all sorts of things...including things like Chrone, celiac, different allergies...everything came back negative. I had read about the breath test for Lactose and was told it was very rare for someone to test positive with that test after all the tests she had already gone through...I told them to humor me and do the test (cause they were talking about scoping her) - took the test and BAM - positive...
Within a week of removing all dairy from her diet (we switched to almond milk and not soy) her excema got so much better - no stomach aches or head aches....
She can take a Lactaid to lessen things like stomach issues...but the excema will get worse if she eats a lot of dairy products...she is very particular about things and I have taken a step back as she has gotten older to let her make her own decisions about dairy - what she wants to eat and when...pretty much right now she chooses to eat Yogurt, pizza and ice cream on occassion but stays away from other dairy stuff, she is pretty good at making choices too - i.e. one dairy thing a day (with some lactaid)0 -
I have been eating a primal slant since November and Paleo for the past month...
I have 2 kids who are almost 11...While I encourage them to try some of the things I make I don't force them...I had such eating issues as a kid (being forced to eat stuff I found nasty and being forced to clean my plate - which I am only now trying to reverse) I don't want to force them to eat something they don't want but I do want it to be open and avialable to them...
I attempt to make them choose healthier items and they usually do...right now we are having issues due to mouthful of orthodonics so certain fruits and veggies they loved to eat they can't bite and eat with thier metal...I will spend a little more to get a higher quality kid food item (like the more expensive hot dogs that are all beef and not full of nitrates).
Right now a lot of nights I have a meal for my husband and I and they have one for themselves...some nights it's a no brainer - if we are having steak or roasted chicken - they are having it as well...We do make them take at least a bite of everything and they have found a few things they do like (like tuna steaks and sweet potato/onion/cauliflower hash)...and stuff they don't...for me I see it as a learning process - it would be one things if they were toddlers and I still had a chance of revamping thier eating habits - but telling them they can't have a turkey sandwich now...forget it - that would cause mutiney in our house...
What I am hoping is that by me slowly teaching them what are good foods vs "treats" they will learn over time - they are very good in regards to treats and don't go overboard at all and I am hoping as they get older and expand thier eating habits a bit more they will be inclined to CHOOSE to eat the way I do.
My one daughter has lactose/casien issues so she has already learned that sometimes she can't eat all the things her friends do and what happens if she chooses to make decisions (like chooseing to have ice cream = big stomach ache an hour later)
I know that at least one of my youngest has dairy issues. When he was born until about two he couldn't touch dairy products, and they said he would probably grow out of that. He did get to the point where he could eat those things without breaking out in hives, but I wonder if he still has that allergy just not serious. He doesn't eat a lot of dairy or drink it either, but when he does it bothers him. It makes me worry about my other kids as well and at this point the many problems they have been having I am just inclines to try this out, but not to the strict structure I obviously need.
My one with Lactose/Casian issues had milk protien issues as a baby and had to be on soy...when she moved to milk products she didnt' drink a whole bunch and wasn't inclined to eating loads of dairy products (except of course ice cream)...ever since she was young she had complained of stomach aches and had excema...we sort of brushed off the stomach aches since the majority of them were around bedtime...we figured it might be a stall tactic (looking back...most of the time it was an hour after they had some sort of ice cream for desert....)
Anyway about 2 years ago her excema got way worse to the point her hands were cracking open...she was having bathroom issues and loads of stomach aches and head aches...around this time was also when she discovered she loved Yoplait whipped yogurt, cheese sticks and it was late winter and my girls were eating grilled cheese and tomato soup (made with milk) a lot...
I took to the trusty internet and with all her little complaints it pointed to lactose and/or casien intolerance...
Went to a GI dr. and they did a ton of blood tests for all sorts of things...including things like Chrone, celiac, different allergies...everything came back negative. I had read about the breath test for Lactose and was told it was very rare for someone to test positive with that test after all the tests she had already gone through...I told them to humor me and do the test (cause they were talking about scoping her) - took the test and BAM - positive...
Within a week of removing all dairy from her diet (we switched to almond milk and not soy) her excema got so much better - no stomach aches or head aches....
She can take a Lactaid to lessen things like stomach issues...but the excema will get worse if she eats a lot of dairy products...she is very particular about things and I have taken a step back as she has gotten older to let her make her own decisions about dairy - what she wants to eat and when...pretty much right now she chooses to eat Yogurt, pizza and ice cream on occassion but stays away from other dairy stuff, she is pretty good at making choices too - i.e. one dairy thing a day (with some lactaid)
Thank you for your response it helps so much to have someone who has gone through this as well. The things I have read about this issue sounds so much like my younger three, of course my husband isn't as ahhh hhhhaaa as I am( he is way more skeptical of things). He doesn't care if I want to try it, but he would rather not. That of course changed when he saw how much better I felt eating this way, and how terrible I felt when I didn't. He is also starting to be a little concerned about our younger ones stomach issues of late. I think I will try this with them for a while and see if it doesn't work. My husbands sister has celiac, which is what made me think of this!0 -
When I was younger (prior to elementary school mostly), I would have stomach aches and all kind of stuff some nights after dinner/before bed. My parents thought it was a stall tactic too, and if I told them I didn't want to eat something for dinner, it was "tough, this is dinner, eat it." Once I started getting sick and throwing up stuff I told them I couldn't eat, they started looking at if I had food allergies. My dad is deadly allergic to shrimp/crabs/crawfish and has been in the hospital more times than I'd like to think about due to people just accidentally switching serving spoons at a family gathering or something.
They figured out I was allergic to potassium sorbate (preservative). We eat yougurt or cottage cheese with fruit after dinner most nights, and when I was little I would break out in hives some nights after dinner. Through trial and error and writing down everything I ate, they figured out potassium sorbate was the only thing different in the foods (in one brand of yogurt) that I ate when I broke out. So quit eating that.
Then I started walking in my sleep A LOT. My dad and his brother talked and walked in their sleep when they were younger, but grew out of it. My brother and I both talk in our sleep (we have conversations) and I walk in my sleep. So far (22 and 23 years old) we haven't grown out of it. It turns out I walked in my sleep more often if I had milk products after around 5pm. Scratch milk from my foods for about 15 years. I took calcium + vitamin D pills and drank the calcium orange juice and other juices.
Then they figured out I couldn't eat foods cooked with vegetable oils (olive oil included). My dad and grandma have the same problem. So we only bake with vegetable oil, but cut it half with apple sauce or pear sauce. We only use olive oil sometimes, and sparingly in the pan. The weird thing is, when we deep fry stuff in peanut oil, I have no problems. For everyday cooking we just use bacon grease.
Where I'm going with all this is it may not just be milk stuff messing with your little ones. It could be oils, seasonings (my grandma can't use black pepper, it makes her throw up), preservatives or dyes in the foods.
My family (brother and parents) doesn't eat primal. I'm not 100%, as I have to buy a meal plan at the college I go to since I have a dorm room. Food choices are limited. Even when I'm home, I don't eat 100% primal. I'm from southeast Louisiana. If mama's cooking red beans, I don't care what anybody says. I'm eating red beans. (We soak them overnight, then cook them in the crock pot for about 10 hours.) Just make sure you know what you're younger ones are eating, keep a diary if they have issues with certain foods. You may not have to bring them to the doctor if you just do process of elimination for figuring out what they're sick from.
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When I was younger (prior to elementary school mostly), I would have stomach aches and all kind of stuff some nights after dinner/before bed. My parents thought it was a stall tactic too, and if I told them I didn't want to eat something for dinner, it was "tough, this is dinner, eat it." Once I started getting sick and throwing up stuff I told them I couldn't eat, they started looking at if I had food allergies. My dad is deadly allergic to shrimp/crabs/crawfish and has been in the hospital more times than I'd like to think about due to people just accidentally switching serving spoons at a family gathering or something.
They figured out I was allergic to potassium sorbate (preservative). We eat yougurt or cottage cheese with fruit after dinner most nights, and when I was little I would break out in hives some nights after dinner. Through trial and error and writing down everything I ate, they figured out potassium sorbate was the only thing different in the foods (in one brand of yogurt) that I ate when I broke out. So quit eating that.
Then I started walking in my sleep A LOT. My dad and his brother talked and walked in their sleep when they were younger, but grew out of it. My brother and I both talk in our sleep (we have conversations) and I walk in my sleep. So far (22 and 23 years old) we haven't grown out of it. It turns out I walked in my sleep more often if I had milk products after around 5pm. Scratch milk from my foods for about 15 years. I took calcium + vitamin D pills and drank the calcium orange juice and other juices.
Then they figured out I couldn't eat foods cooked with vegetable oils (olive oil included). My dad and grandma have the same problem. So we only bake with vegetable oil, but cut it half with apple sauce or pear sauce. We only use olive oil sometimes, and sparingly in the pan. The weird thing is, when we deep fry stuff in peanut oil, I have no problems. For everyday cooking we just use bacon grease.
Where I'm going with all this is it may not just be milk stuff messing with your little ones. It could be oils, seasonings (my grandma can't use black pepper, it makes her throw up), preservatives or dyes in the foods.
My family (brother and parents) doesn't eat primal. I'm not 100%, as I have to buy a meal plan at the college I go to since I have a dorm room. Food choices are limited. Even when I'm home, I don't eat 100% primal. I'm from southeast Louisiana. If mama's cooking red beans, I don't care what anybody says. I'm eating red beans. (We soak them overnight, then cook them in the crock pot for about 10 hours.) Just make sure you know what you're younger ones are eating, keep a diary if they have issues with certain foods. You may not have to bring them to the doctor if you just do process of elimination for figuring out what they're sick from.
Good luck!
Thank you for this...its obvious we have some trial and error to go through, but in the end we will benefit from it!0 -
I am loosely Primal, my family isn't. When I started this journey, I kind of anticipated that for some meals, I was going to end up doing one meal for them and one for me. BUT...because I have always cooked as much as possible with whole ingredients, I don't worry too much about what my children are eating, and there are some recipes I've been able to adapt so that everyone can enjoy them, or I just make a little something different for me. Tonight, for example, they will have home made pizza (I do the dough from scratch and make my own sauce), and I will have portobello mushroom 'pizzas'...no big deal. I always encourage them to try some of the things that I'm eating, but I don't worry if they don't. Neither of them seems to have any issues with any food, so that's not a concern; my youngest isn't much of a carnivore, but otherwise, we're figuring this whole thing out!!0
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I don't have kids, but I listen to a lot of paleo podcasts and spend a lot of time on blogs.
There are two books aimed towards kids by paleo parents:
Eat like a dinosaur
Paleo Pals by Sarah Furgoso of Everyday paleo
also, Nomnompaleo is a great blog with lots of recipes and the woman who writes it has children. I'm sure that will be a great resource.
Good luck
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