Introvert or extrovert
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A woman whom I respect very much, and who is the poster girl for your "Myths", said something brilliant on this subject a while back.
"Extroverts receive energy by being around other people, but Introverts are drained". (As she was having a cubicle wall erected).
Lol, a woman after my own heart. So true so true0 -
Research Psychologist here... want to know for sure if you're an introvert or extrovert? It's not really something easy to nail down. Luckily, we have this amazing research tool that's been in use for a long time, and you can take it online for free. It's not one of those silly "what's your personality" type quizzes. It's a scientifically developed, empirically tested tool called the IPIP NEO PI-R (catchy name huh?). It will examine your responses on either 300 (long form) or 120 (short form) questions and tell you where you stand on the five main dimensions of personality (OCEAN- openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism [emotional stability]). It's a truly interesting way to examine yourself. It also breaks down each dimension into sub-dimensions. Like, I'm average on conscientiousness, but when it breaks my score into subdomains you find I'm very high on academic/moral conscientiousness and very low on orderliness (my office is a tornado of paperwork). You can take it here: http://www.personal.psu.edu/j5j/IPIP/ and that might inform your statement of where you stand on introversion/extroversion.
For what it's worth, I'm average on extroversion. Right smack dab in the middle.
Another interesting question would be "where do you stand on agreeableness?"
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say we're probably all low on this trait, since we're in a debate forum group! I personally know I'm low in this domain, and it's not a bad thing at all
I have the profile of a scientist- very high on openness, low on agreeableness, and high in the academic subdomain of conscientiousness.
Anyway, it's fun and interesting. If you have 15-40 spare minutes (depending on which version you choose, the short form is actually pretty solid), you might learn something fun about yourself
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Another quick note: don't assume you know if you are an introvert or extrovert... I always thought I was an introvert. Turns out I'm, by clinical definitions, smack dab in the middle.
Also, don't rely on the myers-briggs. It's an awful, awful tool which is only around because it has good PR. It has shown low levels of external validity, low levels of reliability, and classifies people into types instead of magnitude of traits. Think about all the people you know... and ask yourself: can all these very different people honestly be classified into 16 groups? I think you'll find the answer is no. Stick with the Big 5 (OCEAN) which has so much science to back it up!0 -
My husband and I actually had to take all the ones you mentioned plus Myers-Briggs before he would be consdered to enter aspirancy for the diaconate (in laymans terms, before he could start the process of being an ordained deacon in the Catholic Church). That was just part of the psychological background check we both had to go through (because the wives have to agree about their husbands being ordained they must make sure that we are also psychological fit to make that decision). I can't remember all the other stuff, but yes, I am an introvert on all three. We didn't get to keep the graphying printout with our results which is why I can't remember all of the rest of the details (yes, I know, I just zoomed in on the introvert part and didn't take long-term mental note of the rest).0
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Regmama,
There's that good PR for ya! The Myers-Briggs is almost exclusively used by employers as researchers have largely dismissed it's validity (it shows only one type of validity- face validity, which is to say, it looks valid, even though it really isn't). I have to ask though, I only mentioned two scales (The IPIP NEO and the Myers-Briggs). I'm just curious, which other scale did they require? Was it the MMPI? If so, that's a little disconcerting as it's primary use is for the clinical, not general population. Anyway, interesting!
If you have the free time, you should consider retaking the NEO. I try to take it every couple of years because I find the results fascinating. Plus, you can print it out 0 -
You know, I don't remember all the tests (my husband and I were at the psychologists office for hours taking the tests). And because it is to determine if one is of sound mind and has no inclinations toward troubling spots to start the process of ordination in the Catholic Church it doesn't surprise me that they used test that are not used for the general population. The Church has instituted a LOT of psychological checking and rechecking because of the sex abuse of some of the ordained. It is set up to try to make sure that abuse doesn't happen again. And to make it as non-biased as possible, the faith of the psychologist HAS to be something other than Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. The psychologist that worked with us is Unitarian.Regmama,
There's that good PR for ya! The Myers-Briggs is almost exclusively used by employers as researchers have largely dismissed it's validity (it shows only one type of validity- face validity, which is to say, it looks valid, even though it really isn't). I have to ask though, I only mentioned two scales (The IPIP NEO and the Myers-Briggs). I'm just curious, which other scale did they require? Was it the MMPI? If so, that's a little disconcerting as it's primary use is for the clinical, not general population. Anyway, interesting!
If you have the free time, you should consider retaking the NEO. I try to take it every couple of years because I find the results fascinating. Plus, you can print it out0 -
The Church has instituted a LOT of psychological checking and rechecking because of the sex abuse of some of the ordained. It is set up to try to make sure that abuse doesn't happen again. And to make it as non-biased as possible, the faith of the psychologist HAS to be something other than Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. The psychologist that worked with us is Unitarian.
You know, I'm totally cool with that. The church should certainly screen people in positions of authority for mental illness.0 -
Research Psychologist here... want to know for sure if you're an introvert or extrovert? It's not really something easy to nail down. Luckily, we have this amazing research tool that's been in use for a long time, and you can take it online for free. It's not one of those silly "what's your personality" type quizzes. It's a scientifically developed, empirically tested tool called the IPIP NEO PI-R (catchy name huh?). It will examine your responses on either 300 (long form) or 120 (short form) questions and tell you where you stand on the five main dimensions of personality (OCEAN- openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism [emotional stability]). It's a truly interesting way to examine yourself. It also breaks down each dimension into sub-dimensions. Like, I'm average on conscientiousness, but when it breaks my score into subdomains you find I'm very high on academic/moral conscientiousness and very low on orderliness (my office is a tornado of paperwork). You can take it here: http://www.personal.psu.edu/j5j/IPIP/ and that might inform your statement of where you stand on introversion/extroversion.
For what it's worth, I'm average on extroversion. Right smack dab in the middle.
Another interesting question would be "where do you stand on agreeableness?"
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say we're probably all low on this trait, since we're in a debate forum group! I personally know I'm low in this domain, and it's not a bad thing at all I have the profile of a scientist- very high on openness, low on agreeableness, and high in the academic subdomain of conscientiousness.
Anyway, it's fun and interesting. If you have 15-40 spare minutes (depending on which version you choose, the short form is actually pretty solid), you might learn something fun about yourself
Cool--I always like taking these things.
Even though they always tell me I'm weird.0 -
Cool--I always like taking these things.
Even though they always tell me I'm weird.
That's the beauty of the NEO It doesn't assess abnormal personality, it's just where you stand on the five main dimensions of personality. It's a kick *kitten* measure 0 -
I'm an introvert. I have a small group of friends that are very tight, and I am usually pretty quiet in public unless I know someone very well or have something to say that I'm sure will add to the discussion.
I'm more an extrovert on the interwebz though, which is kinda funny.0 -
We are a Unitarian couple. My wife is a mental health worker. We have a lot of mental health workers in our congregation. Psychologists, Counselors, Social Workers. Hmmmm. Are lots of mental health workers Unitarian - or are lots of Unitarians mental health providers? Interesting,,,,,,,,,, The psychologist that worked with us is Unitarian.0 -
A woman whom I respect very much, and who is the poster girl for your "Myths", said something brilliant on this subject a while back.
"Extroverts receive energy by being around other people, but Introverts are drained". (As she was having a cubicle wall erected).
Love it! Must remember that one...0
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