Want to know why the statistics come out that way? (My numbers aren't exactly right, but close enough to get the picture across)

1.) Men are more apt to make the first step and send an email.
2.) The top 10% of females will receive messages from 80% of men.
Therefore: the top 10% of women get swamped with email and the rest of us are pretty much ignored.
3.) Women who DO make the first move, tend to message guys who are only interested in that top 10%

Lesson to be learned? Humans have high expectations and try to reach outside of their league. We're all victims of this process, and it's entirely ridiculous.

I don't think you are going to meet the smartest most quality people on a free dating site. I think you said in the past you tried match or eharmony, so maybe you have to pay for those again.

Hey I'm on a free dating site (okc) and I consider myself smart and a quality person so I won't stereotype that.

Want to know why the statistics come out that way? (My numbers aren't exactly right, but close enough to get the picture across)

1.) Men are more apt to make the first step and send an email.
2.) The top 10% of females will receive messages from 80% of men.
Therefore: the top 10% of women get swamped with email and the rest of us are pretty much ignored.
3.) Women who DO make the first move, tend to message guys who are only interested in that top 10%

Lesson to be learned? Humans have high expectations and try to reach outside of their league. We're all victims of this process, and it's entirely ridiculous.

Yeah I get that, that makes sense.

I tend to be not one of those guys though, I know my limits haha. I push the boudries of league a little bit. Not to sound my own horn, but I would say I seem like a pretty good dude as in not a douche bag compared to other guys in my area. I get knocked back though 9/10 i'd say. I do some knocking back myself but not nearly as much as im on the receiving end of. I think internet dating is far more attraction based, I very rarely send a message to someone with out photo's or a girl Im not attracted too. Have done it before, to a profile, that was funny and had a lot in common, worked out well as she was gorgeous and had her photos hidden as she said on a later date she was getting way too much attention and I was the first guy to send her a message since she took her photos down.. Winning. Didnt work out though lol.

I don't think you are going to meet the smartest most quality people on a free dating site. I think you said in the past you tried match or eharmony, so maybe you have to pay for those again.

Hey I'm on a free dating site (okc) and I consider myself smart and a quality person so I won't stereotype that.

Yeah maybe I wrote that wrong - I just think on pay sites, you have a higher quality of people generally speaking since you have to pay for it. It shows the people are willing to find a relationship, as opposed to just an easy five minute free sign up on another website like okc or pof.

Because guys have much lower standards, even a pig on OKC can get a guy to sleep with it.

With thinking like that, it's no wonder you;re single. :noway:

Do you WANT to view my inbox? Easy my *kitten*...

I know, right?

In between to 20-30 yrs old then

Huh? I feel like I missed something...

I can only really talk from experience within my age group I guess. Ive been involved in online dating through my 20's on and off. Now at 29. I feel as if the girls in my age bracket, I woudlnt say spoiled for choice, but they have the upper hand. Girls I know, get soooo many messages, one girl Im friends with has gotten 50 messages in one day. I wouldnt have gotten 50 messages in 10 years!!!

You sure have lucky (and/or beautiful) friends, since I get email max once a month. I'm not on the site regularly though, but still.

Because guys have much lower standards, even a pig on OKC can get a guy to sleep with it.

And apparently I'm not even a pig :ohwell: (Not that I would be even trying to get one, not my thing)

Here what I did .. I deleted all my online site profiles and unsubscribed to all emails . It's been 3 weeks and I don't think I've ever been happier. Online dating is terrible and is inherently disappointing for men. For women it's the opposite it seems... Because guys have much lower standards, even a pig on OKC can get a guy to sleep with it. Guys virtually parade themselves in front of semi attractive women, whom get the first right of refusal and without dignity! I hate people that are cowards and online dating has made it easier for people just like texting.

I really think deleting all my profiles raised my self esteem a few points and removed my good name from something that is so evil!

Yep.
I personally still have my profile, connect from time to time and let women message me - which rarely happen (I don't even do the first step anymore or very rarely - only if I find a very good profile, the message/response ratio is too low for a man, and it is higher for women so I let them do the work).
I agree with the "pig thing" as well, but it's true in general in life (women have sex easier than men, they are the lowest common denominator).

I think internet dating is far more attraction based, I very rarely send a message to someone with out photo's or a girl Im not attracted too.

This I think is the reason.
Plus the fact that you can browse instantly through 1000s of people and look for perfection, which normally wouldn't happen outside.

I really think deleting all my profiles raised my self esteem a few points and removed my good name from something that is so evil!

At least you gave it a try.

It's definitely not for everyone! I know a few couples that met online and one couple that are getting married this year I also know that I have met a lot of freaky guys, heard some real horror stories and have got so frustrated that I've deleted my profile too. So its not just men that have a hard time. :noway:

Perhaps now you can try different things. Good luck :flowerforyou: