Thoughts on dropping deadlifts?
Rae6503
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Sometimes I drop it from the complete top. Sometimes from my knees. I lower it on my lighter warm up sets. Whenever I post videos people comment on the dropping...
I just googled "dropping deadlifts" and found a few articles in support of it, but nothing that says I should lower it...
http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1468
http://jasonferruggia.com/drop-the-deadlift/
But I also don't wanna be an *kitten*. My gym does have bumper plates and a pad.
I just googled "dropping deadlifts" and found a few articles in support of it, but nothing that says I should lower it...
http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1468
http://jasonferruggia.com/drop-the-deadlift/
But I also don't wanna be an *kitten*. My gym does have bumper plates and a pad.
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Depends on your goal.
If your goal us "powerlifitng," being able to lift as much as possible, then drop it. Setting it down slowly is a waste of energy.
If your goal is hypertrophy, then there is some benefit to be had in the eccentric portion of every lift, deadlfits included.0 -
two-fold
i don't think you are being an *kitten*
if your gym has provided bumper plates and mats, i think they are anticipating weights will be dropped. i envy the bumper plates!
regarding dropping, i will repeat a bit from an earlier post :
i personally find GREAT benefit to the negative movements. i feel this way about the form for each of my lifts, not just DL - ie. a controlled sink into my squat, and a controlled lowering of the bar to my chest in bench. i view the lowering of the bar in my DL as the same type of negative movement, and really focus on maintaining my form through this eccentric contraction.
that said, if i was trying to max out my lifts for PR or the like (vs. doing reps) i can certainly see dropping the weights on DL or power cleans, etc as the weight got heavy.0 -
Drop that **** if you must but the negative is good.0
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Depends on your goal.
If your goal us "powerlifitng," being able to lift as much as possible, then drop it. Setting it down slowly is a waste of energy.
If your goal is hypertrophy, then there is some benefit to be had in the eccentric portion of every lift, deadlfits included.
I guess at this point in time I'm more into how much I can lift.0 -
Depends on your goal.
If your goal us "powerlifitng," being able to lift as much as possible, then drop it. Setting it down slowly is a waste of energy.
If your goal is hypertrophy, then there is some benefit to be had in the eccentric portion of every lift, deadlfits included.
gotta disagree here to an extent.
even if you're looking for hypertrophy, you aren't going to do a slow controlled negative on deadlifts.
and powerlifters still have to lower the bar under control in competition.
bottom line, if your gym doesn't have a problem with it, it's okay to more or less drop it, but keep your hands on the bar and don't just slam it down. bumpers do protect the bar, so thats a plus, but just have respect for the equipment when possible.0 -
Drop that **** if you must but the negative is good.
no it isn't.
the majority of deadlifting injuries occur during the start off the floor, and the negative.
the negative isn't good on this lift. while it's good for hypertrophy on some lifts, it's really not good to emphasize the negative, because it leads to soreness. people who lift for performance usually avoid negatives, or make them as fast as possible.0 -
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That reminds me that I should use the bumpers for deadlifts. I've been making a lot of noise at the gym.0
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dropping the weight from waist height is a lame crossfit move. at least attempt to lower it.0
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My gym has no deadlift setup. I have to use a bar from one of the benches or the squat rack for deadlifts, and do them out on the open floor. So no, I do not drop the weights. I'd probably be escorted out of the gym! :laugh:0
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While repping? I tind that too hard to set up again. While repping, I'll try to set it down and take advantage of the small bounce to get the next lift up.
On the last one, I won't just drop from the top. that would boom the entire gym and the free weights are on the 2nd floor. I'll lower it about 85% that clunk it down. Still makes a noise but heavy weights do that.0 -
I put it down, not slam, 1RM attempts its never going to down slowly as that'll be more of a drop.
As far as technique goes, I have been told that there should be a slight re-settle between each rep, instead of using the bounce. This is how I do it anyways.0 -
I put it down, not slam, 1RM attempts its never going to down slowly as that'll be more of a drop.
As far as technique goes, I have been told that there should be a slight re-settle between each rep, instead of using the bounce. This is how I do it anyways.
this.
using the bounce off the floor is cheating yourself out of the difficult part of the lift.
similar to bouncing the bar off your chest while benching.0 -
For reps of 6-8, I'll use the bounce. I want to keep my body tense and setting up each time is difficult.
The 1st one is the money shot anyway. As far as my past powerlifting training that is.
I'll set up again if I loose my grip though. Which is happening on my 315lb lift. It's frustrating. Need wrist wraps I guess0 -
For reps of 6-8, I'll use the bounce. I want to keep my body tense and setting up each time is difficult.
The 1st one is the money shot anyway. As far as my past powerlifting training that is.
I'll set up again if I loose my grip though. Which is happening on my 315lb lift. It's frustrating. Need wrist wraps I guess
Have you tried mixed grip yet? Helped me for sure on my 1RM0 -
I do over/under hand now.0
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If I was looking to eccentricless leg work then I'd drop them (if I had bumper plates) but I haven't reached a level yet where I haven't been able to lower it in a controlled fashion. Yes the heavy ones clunk down pretty hard but that is just going to happen. I have a home gym anyway so doesn't matter
I also agree with Ilovedeadlifts re the injuries on the lowering. A lot of people seem to lower it quite awkwardly and it's hard to pin point what they're doing wrong. Something about not keeping it on the thighs and bending too early I believe.
Just keep TIGHT the whole way, up and down and you should be good though.0 -
I dropped a few reps last night, the worst of them was maybe from knee height. Using bumper plates, concrete floor covered with carpet. Quite loud. My wife, who was upstairs was not pleased. I probably ought to make a plywood platform. That may absorb it better.0
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I dropped a few reps last night, the worst of them was maybe from knee height. Using bumper plates, concrete floor covered with carpet. Quite loud. My wife, who was upstairs was not pleased. I probably ought to make a plywood platform. That may absorb it better.
Chrisdavey above poster made a sweet platform that we now use for deads at his place. works a treat.0 -
As someone else mentioned, I think this would make setting up again a *****. Especially if you're on a surface where it might roll away slightly.0
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I dropped a few reps last night, the worst of them was maybe from knee height. Using bumper plates, concrete floor covered with carpet. Quite loud. My wife, who was upstairs was not pleased. I probably ought to make a plywood platform. That may absorb it better.
yeah, platforms are easy to make
http://www.home-gym-bodybuilding.com/homemade-deadlifting-platform.html0 -
yeah, platforms are easy to make
http://www.home-gym-bodybuilding.com/homemade-deadlifting-platform.html
this.
some plywood plus a couple of horse stall mats and you're good to go.
I have a sheet of plywood plus a cut up yoga mat and it's done fine for up to 405.
If you have a nice bar (i dont) I'd definitely lean towards making the best platform I could to protect my investment.0
http://youtu.be/vSgfdxKjk9A
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