I'm so confused.

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  • r1ghtpath
    r1ghtpath Posts: 701 Member
    awww, very sweet!! have a great night with your friend!!! i just got back from dinner with a girlfriend too. these are the kinds of things you need to focus on for the time being :-)

    ((HUGS))
  • Natx83
    Natx83 Posts: 1,298 Member
    Hate these situations when they crop up! Both are confused, not sure on what is going to happen etc!!

    I think just chill out, ride it out for a little while longer before making any kind of decision! Let me him decide how he feels, there is no point coming to any conclusions about how it is he feels until he makes it clear on how he feels.
  • ktbug82
    ktbug82 Posts: 166 Member
    Stop freaking out. try to stay positive & stop comparing yourself to his past girlfriends. You shouldn't be comparing him to past boyfriends either. You are both different people. 1.5 months is still so early in a relationship for this much drama and overanalyzing to be going on. IMO it's way too soon for I love you's to be exchanged or for anyone to get so worked up. You should be enjoying this time together and continuing to get to know each other. Enjoy life. Stop overthinking because if anything is going to make him push away, it's going to be that. Stop stressing. What's meant to be will be.
  • oddyogi
    oddyogi Posts: 1,816 Member
    I even put a new pic of us up.. ha!!

    :heart:

    Ahhhh, very cute pic :bigsmile:

    Yes, very cute! Have fun at HH later...nothing like girl time and tequila and vodka. :drinker:

    Love the pic and enjoy the drinks! I did the same with my gf tonight except we did frozen yogurt. Nomnomnom
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    Any tips?
    1. Be yourself.
    2. Have fun.
  • AnnaPixie
    AnnaPixie Posts: 7,439 Member
    Any tips?
    1. Be yourself.
    2. Have fun.

    ditto!! :bigsmile:
  • Steelheart7
    Steelheart7 Posts: 1,056 Member
    Rock his world baby girl!! lol :smokin:
  • r1ghtpath
    r1ghtpath Posts: 701 Member
    Any tips?
    1. Be yourself.
    2. Have fun.

    ditto!! and ditto to the rock his world comment too ;-)
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    Grrrr Smiley is LATE!! My patience is being tested. It's okay. He let me know early (he's been calling now on his own.. weird) on that he'd be a little late but now it's been almost an hour ago that he was supposed to be here. He texted and said it'd be a little longer and he apologized. He's helping his brother move the 4 wheeler around so he can work on it.

    Dinner is ready and I'm hungry!!! Gotta keep my cool..............
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
    Any tips?
    1. Be yourself.
    2. Have fun.

    ditto!! and ditto to the rock his world comment too ;-)
    x3
  • MysticMaiden22
    MysticMaiden22 Posts: 323 Member
    Just live in the moment and whatever happens will happen, girl :)

    I've spent too much time myself worrying about my relationships, which ultimately made them fail.

    I'm currently seeing a great guy who doesn't spark any type of worry or anxiety in me...and it's like a breath of fresh air :)
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    Bf ended up super late but it was fine. He apologized and said he had to help his brother. This is the 1st time he's ever been late so I was nice. We ate late and watched some tv, chatted then hit the sack.

    From our talk, he said I was always giving so I've pulled back to give him room to give (if he wants to). I want to see if he still shows interest by being affectionate, making plans, etc. So far he's been calling me out of nowhere, he's been initiating affection and he's making plans with me by himself.

    He said he was going to make it up to me tonight (being late). He has school (last class.. yay!) but only for an hour or so. He asked if he could come over.
    Question... I wanted to give him space. Should I just tell him I'll see him tomorrow as we had planned and give him space or let him over since it was his idea?


    Oh and he got the new job! He's happy and said it was a huge stress relief! He will no longer have to travel 1.5 hours to work each way (well he's about to move away and he's going to be a little far out of Austin so he'll travel some).
  • r1ghtpath
    r1ghtpath Posts: 701 Member
    i think if he's initiating seeing you, let him and take him up on it. :-)
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,301 Member
    Bf ended up super late but it was fine. He apologized and said he had to help his brother. This is the 1st time he's ever been late so I was nice. We ate late and watched some tv, chatted then hit the sack.

    From our talk, he said I was always giving so I've pulled back to give him room to give (if he wants to). I want to see if he still shows interest by being affectionate, making plans, etc. So far he's been calling me out of nowhere, he's been initiating affection and he's making plans with me by himself.

    He said he was going to make it up to me tonight (being late). He has school (last class.. yay!) but only for an hour or so. He asked if he could come over.
    Question... I wanted to give him space. Should I just tell him I'll see him tomorrow as we had planned and give him space or let him over since it was his idea?


    Oh and he got the new job! He's happy and said it was a huge stress relief! He will no longer have to travel 1.5 hours to work each way (well he's about to move away and he's going to be a little far out of Austin so he'll travel some).

    Him saying you were always giving was a compliment unless there is more to it then that to flush out the context.
    If not then stop trying to react to it and just accept it.

    Oy.
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    Bf ended up super late but it was fine. He apologized and said he had to help his brother. This is the 1st time he's ever been late so I was nice. We ate late and watched some tv, chatted then hit the sack.

    From our talk, he said I was always giving so I've pulled back to give him room to give (if he wants to). I want to see if he still shows interest by being affectionate, making plans, etc. So far he's been calling me out of nowhere, he's been initiating affection and he's making plans with me by himself.

    He said he was going to make it up to me tonight (being late). He has school (last class.. yay!) but only for an hour or so. He asked if he could come over.
    Question... I wanted to give him space. Should I just tell him I'll see him tomorrow as we had planned and give him space or let him over since it was his idea?


    Oh and he got the new job! He's happy and said it was a huge stress relief! He will no longer have to travel 1.5 hours to work each way (well he's about to move away and he's going to be a little far out of Austin so he'll travel some).

    Him saying you were always giving was a compliment unless there is more to it then that to flush out the context.
    If not then stop trying to react to it and just accept it.

    Oy.

    he said because I give so much, he is not used to that and makes him feel out of his element since he's always been the giver. he said it also made him feel guilty if he wasn't giving as much (which is a lot according to him).

    Carl, should I give him space tonight or let him come over as he wants?
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,301 Member
    Bf ended up super late but it was fine. He apologized and said he had to help his brother. This is the 1st time he's ever been late so I was nice. We ate late and watched some tv, chatted then hit the sack.

    From our talk, he said I was always giving so I've pulled back to give him room to give (if he wants to). I want to see if he still shows interest by being affectionate, making plans, etc. So far he's been calling me out of nowhere, he's been initiating affection and he's making plans with me by himself.

    He said he was going to make it up to me tonight (being late). He has school (last class.. yay!) but only for an hour or so. He asked if he could come over.
    Question... I wanted to give him space. Should I just tell him I'll see him tomorrow as we had planned and give him space or let him over since it was his idea?


    Oh and he got the new job! He's happy and said it was a huge stress relief! He will no longer have to travel 1.5 hours to work each way (well he's about to move away and he's going to be a little far out of Austin so he'll travel some).

    Him saying you were always giving was a compliment unless there is more to it then that to flush out the context.
    If not then stop trying to react to it and just accept it.

    Oy.

    he said because I give so much, he is not used to that and makes him feel out of his element since he's always been the giver. he said it also made him feel guilty if he wasn't giving as much (which is a lot according to him).

    Carl, should I give him space tonight or let him come over as he wants?

    Find ways to let him then but that is not the same as giving him space,if you want to see him tonight then let him.
    To do otherwise will confuse him.
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    okay.. and this is confusing me too ha!

    I just want to give him his space... I want to make sure he has time to clear his head since obviously, he had so much on his mind but since he made plans for tonight, knowing we're going to be together all weekend, guess that's good!
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,301 Member
    okay.. and this is confusing me too ha!

    I just want to give him his space... I want to make sure he has time to clear his head since obviously, he had so much on his mind but since he made plans for tonight, knowing we're going to be together all weekend, guess that's good!

    Watching a movie on the couch with the lights dimmed and you just quietly resting your head on his shoulder will do that. :wink:
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    okay.. and this is confusing me too ha!

    I just want to give him his space... I want to make sure he has time to clear his head since obviously, he had so much on his mind but since he made plans for tonight, knowing we're going to be together all weekend, guess that's good!

    Watching a movie on the couch with the lights dimmed and you just quietly resting your head on his shoulder will do that. :wink:

    :heart: :love:

    Ahhhhh we had a good night last night. Tonight will be good too. Thanks!
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.

    Knowledge based on a book of someone else's life or experiences is silly. Unless it was written by one of his ex's, it's not directly related to him. You're going to get false information in your head, assume that when he says something similar to something you read in a book that ended up bad, you'll assume it'll be bad.

    That's why every case is different when it comes to a relationship. Exactly why there should be no "rules" or "games" to play - because the moment you start playing a game with a new person like you did with your ex, the new person is gone. Those games obviously haven't worked so far, why would you think they're going to start working now?


    Learn him, read him, Not a book designed for profit.
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.

    Knowledge based on a book of someone else's life or experiences is silly. Unless it was written by one of his ex's, it's not directly related to him. You're going to get false information in your head, assume that when he says something similar to something you read in a book that ended up bad, you'll assume it'll be bad.

    That's why every case is different when it comes to a relationship. Exactly why there should be no "rules" or "games" to play - because the moment you start playing a game with a new person like you did with your ex, the new person is gone. Those games obviously haven't worked so far, why would you think they're going to start working now?


    Learn him, read him, Not a book designed for profit.

    I get what you're saying.. I do. But a lot of men and a lot of women have similar characteristics. We see it on here all the time.. For example, a lot of women overthink (not all, but a lot do!). So although I won't use this particular book to live my relationship with bf, it's not a bad thing to read/ learn from others experiences/ mistakes.
    My fav book so far has been He's Just Not That Into You. Yes, it generalizes but I tell you what.... I've seen what a guy who's really interested in me looked like (and it was exactly how the book described).
  • Natx83
    Natx83 Posts: 1,298 Member
    Word. What he said.
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.

    Knowledge based on a book of someone else's life or experiences is silly. Unless it was written by one of his ex's, it's not directly related to him. You're going to get false information in your head, assume that when he says something similar to something you read in a book that ended up bad, you'll assume it'll be bad.

    That's why every case is different when it comes to a relationship. Exactly why there should be no "rules" or "games" to play - because the moment you start playing a game with a new person like you did with your ex, the new person is gone. Those games obviously haven't worked so far, why would you think they're going to start working now?


    Learn him, read him, Not a book designed for profit.

    I get what you're saying.. I do. But a lot of men and a lot of women have similar characteristics. We see it on here all the time.. For example, a lot of women overthink (not all, but a lot do!). So although I won't use this particular book to live my relationship with bf, it's not a bad thing to read/ learn from others experiences/ mistakes.
    My fav book so far has been He's Just Not That Into You. Yes, it generalizes but I tell you what.... I've seen what a guy who's really interested in me looked like (and it was exactly how the book described).

    Ok,

    If you've seen that, why would you settle for anything less?
  • La_Amazona
    La_Amazona Posts: 4,855 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.

    Knowledge based on a book of someone else's life or experiences is silly. Unless it was written by one of his ex's, it's not directly related to him. You're going to get false information in your head, assume that when he says something similar to something you read in a book that ended up bad, you'll assume it'll be bad.

    That's why every case is different when it comes to a relationship. Exactly why there should be no "rules" or "games" to play - because the moment you start playing a game with a new person like you did with your ex, the new person is gone. Those games obviously haven't worked so far, why would you think they're going to start working now?


    Learn him, read him, Not a book designed for profit.

    I get what you're saying.. I do. But a lot of men and a lot of women have similar characteristics. We see it on here all the time.. For example, a lot of women overthink (not all, but a lot do!). So although I won't use this particular book to live my relationship with bf, it's not a bad thing to read/ learn from others experiences/ mistakes.
    My fav book so far has been He's Just Not That Into You. Yes, it generalizes but I tell you what.... I've seen what a guy who's really interested in me looked like (and it was exactly how the book described).

    Ok,

    If you've seen that, why would you settle for anything less?

    Exactly..

    And I was talking about Smiley (the guy who showed me he was REALLY interested).
  • r1ghtpath
    r1ghtpath Posts: 701 Member
    i am not usually a big supporter of reading self help books, or how to books, or books written by experts regarding things ilke parenting, etc.

    i started reading some of this stuff as my marriage came crashing down around me. and since the mars and venus books have helped me with some ideas of what MIGHT be going on, i don't feel badly suggesting them to someone else that might need a little insight too.

    normally, i tell people, like new parents, to NOT read. don't go by the book. go by your gut and your situation. however, when it comes to men.... unfortunately you don't know you're doing it wrong, until its way too late. what a woman's GUT tells her to do is totally and completely wrong most of the time!!!! and that's because men and women are very very different!!!

    so, if reading a book about the differences between men and women helps to calm the insane emotional roller coaster, then seriously there is NO harm in reading it.

    this is also why i recommend that anyone with any experience with abusive men read "why does he do that?" you will NOT get better insight into the abusive man's mind than through that book!!!

    i didn't read the " he's just not that into you, " but i saw the movie. and using the SUBJECTs as a guide you can see what a guy who IS interested in you is going to be doing and therefore, if he's not, then he's "just not that into you!!!" if all men posted like evan marc katz, i think things would make more sense to women :-)
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    try and find something to preoccupy yourself with. pick up a book, start watching a show on netflix or hulu that has a lot of seasons. go to the gym, go for a run, do something that you can easily take your mind off of you and smiley and what it all might mean in the future. go read the book " mars and venus on a date" !!!!

    Hehe I bought the book and read several chapters last night. It was good!! It made sense. I think it's a generalization on the genders but definately something to keep in mind. I realize Smiley and I brought in some heavy crap right away. We got a false sense of security and shared way too much too soon. According to the book, we're in stage 3- exclusivity yet we went from stages 1-3 and added 4 (intimacy) from the very beginning.
    Anyway, it's definately something I'm going to finish reading. As long as it doesn't turn into game playing (because it easily can), I think it's good advice.




    I asked Smiley to call me after his interview which he eventually did. He got the job! He starts Monday and will now have his own crew so he'll be the boss man. He was happy. We talked for a while (well me asking questions mostly) and he was playful.
    I called him late before bed and he confirmed plans for tonight. I asked if he was staying over and he said yes so we'll be having dinner (I'll cook) and having a good relaxed evening. I'm nervous.. don't know why but I just feel nervous. Still, he's showing interest by coming over and staying the night as he was previously doing.

    Any tips?
    Stop trying to life your life by a book. Books are written to make money.

    There's nothing wrong with knowledge. It doesn't mean I'm following it word by word but I need help (obviously). I reach out to ya'll, friends, books, etc. It's good that I'm wanting to learn.

    Knowledge based on a book of someone else's life or experiences is silly. Unless it was written by one of his ex's, it's not directly related to him. You're going to get false information in your head, assume that when he says something similar to something you read in a book that ended up bad, you'll assume it'll be bad.

    That's why every case is different when it comes to a relationship. Exactly why there should be no "rules" or "games" to play - because the moment you start playing a game with a new person like you did with your ex, the new person is gone. Those games obviously haven't worked so far, why would you think they're going to start working now?


    Learn him, read him, Not a book designed for profit.

    I get what you're saying.. I do. But a lot of men and a lot of women have similar characteristics. We see it on here all the time.. For example, a lot of women overthink (not all, but a lot do!). So although I won't use this particular book to live my relationship with bf, it's not a bad thing to read/ learn from others experiences/ mistakes.
    My fav book so far has been He's Just Not That Into You. Yes, it generalizes but I tell you what.... I've seen what a guy who's really interested in me looked like (and it was exactly how the book described).

    Ok,

    If you've seen that, why would you settle for anything less?

    Exactly..

    And I was talking about Smiley (the guy who showed me he was REALLY interested).

    Should have clarified.
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,301 Member
    i am not usually a big supporter of reading self help books, or how to books, or books written by experts regarding things ilke parenting, etc.

    i started reading some of this stuff as my marriage came crashing down around me. and since the mars and venus books have helped me with some ideas of what MIGHT be going on, i don't feel badly suggesting them to someone else that might need a little insight too.

    normally, i tell people, like new parents, to NOT read. don't go by the book. go by your gut and your situation. however, when it comes to men.... unfortunately you don't know you're doing it wrong, until its way too late. what a woman's GUT tells her to do is totally and completely wrong most of the time!!!! and that's because men and women are very very different!!!

    so, if reading a book about the differences between men and women helps to calm the insane emotional roller coaster, then seriously there is NO harm in reading it.

    this is also why i recommend that anyone with any experience with abusive men read "why does he do that?" you will NOT get better insight into the abusive man's mind than through that book!!!

    i didn't read the " he's just not that into you, " but i saw the movie. and using the SUBJECTs as a guide you can see what a guy who IS interested in you is going to be doing and therefore, if he's not, then he's "just not that into you!!!" if all men posted like evan marc katz, i think things would make more sense to women :-)

    I am not either unless a person is willing to be honest with themselves about things.
    "Self help" books tend to become self affirmation ones where those things appealing or accurate are used to confirm preconceived perceptions and the rest discarded out of hand.

    I have not read or seen the movie "he`s just not that into you",only some excerpts and reviews (not very good) but the main problem I sense is the meme that if a guy is interested he will come on like gang busters and will run through fire to get you.
    Well that may be once a relationship is established but flies in the face of human nature on all sides at the beginning.
    Guys have different personalities and don`t all become bucks in the middle of rut nor does it speak to how a guy has to react and adjust to a ladies reaction to his advances.
    Hell,one lady might take a strong play as what she wants and another put off completely by it,does the book say what a guy is supposed to do then?

    In short,read them for entertainment,if some real useful better yourself advice can be gained then take it but beyond that they are not worth much for individual real life actions and could be terrible if one wrongly pigeon holes themselves into a wrong situation for them.
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