SpikedJoker

Sometimes just changing the way you do it breaks the plateau

I asked for advice for ideas on other exercises I may not know about and other ideas to help.

Unfortunately, I don't have the extra for pt. If my job finds out I'm taking pt, I'm instantly put on leave, and I gotta get paid. So any advice on exercise is appreciated.

I guess there's a bigger difference in the look vs strength That's sustainable than I realized. Hmm, I guess more research is required. And like I said Thanks guys for the help. Anyone who wants to can add me and give advice and If I find something that works well I'll share. Happy lifting.

Thanks, I often give better advice than taking my own lol

Thanks all for your input. That was my point I don't want the competition body but the sustainable year round physique. By true strength I mean not just looking like you lift 500+ but being able to do it. I've met quite a few people who seem like they can lift by the size but when put to the test in real life situations ,…

Thanks for all the advice, most of this is stuff I'm doing already, but I'll add seafood's and other things as I progress.

I've been using elliptical machines with resistance, but I may try the walking in water as well. Thanks

Well I don't plan to start in on any hormones aat all for a while anyway, was just curious. Yes I realize he is "superbuff" was saying I'm not going that extreme. For a lot of builders he is more well rrounded in proportion in my opinion. I'm currently doing diet, cardio, and weight training in a full range of movement and…

I'd prefer to avoid injectable anything.

I've been using elliptical machines with resistance, but I may try the walking in water as well. Thanks

Yes I realize the Frank M is on that level and It's an outrageous goal but I tend to aim high. I'm not trying to be a pro builder, but an everyday guy similar build. If it takes years so be it. Any advice will be helpful.