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Killing an animal many years before its natural life would have ended when you could easily make other food choices doesn't sound humane to me, regardless of the method.

*deleted my response as it was totally irrelevant to OPs questions*

Oh ok. Nice rebuttal. You obviously have some hostile opinions towards veganism for some reason if you come onto a thread about someone looking for help transitioning just to argue. Maybe you should try and figure out what specifically it is about people choosing a compassionate lifestyle that upsets you so much.

No one is talking about moral superiority except you, but what would you call it if your two options are either reducing suffering in the world or increasing it and you choose the former?

Nothing extreme about realizing most of the developed world lives in such a way to where choosing cruelty free food choices at the grocery store and restaurants is a viable option and adjusting your purchasing habits accordingly.

I think everyone is missing the bigger picture here which is that if everyone chose a plant-based "milk" product, we wouldn't even have to worry about how the animals were treated. That's some extreme mental gymnastics to say that as long as animals are "treated OK", then repeatedly impregnating the, separating mother from…

I agree with some of what you have said, but I think vegans generalize and lump all dairy farms together because the vast majority of people (at least in America) are getting their milk from large, industrialized dairy farms, not the local farms which you speak of. So if you can make an argument that applies to the vast…

[Some] vegans 'preach' to meat-eaters about not eating meat because vegans passionately care about animal suffering and want to see it reduced, ideally eliminated, as much as possible. It wouldn't make sense for a meat-eater to 'preach' to vegans to start eating meat because meat-eaters are not saddened or otherwise…

Something that challenges your beliefs doesn't automatically make it propaganda, by the way. If a pro-vegan website said "Cows on a dairy farm are repeatedly artificially impregnated so they will continuously produce milk and their baby calves are taken away from them so the milk can be used for human consumption", would…

Not a very intelligent or well thought out comparison. Life and death situations (i.e. needing antivenom) are very different than choosing animal-based foods that result from inherent cruelty because you prefer how they taste when there are plenty of other less-cruel food choices readily available.

I'll add you! I am vegan, and strive to be as close to 100% whole foods as I can be.

I've been vegan about 2.5 years and have an open diary to friends. Any one feel free to add me :smiley:

Me. I will add you!

Absolutely. Check out Brian Turner's channel (HumerusFitness) and Jon Venus's channel on YouTube. Both vegan weightlifters/body builders. Vegan foods are typically less calorie-dense than foods containing animals products, so many people find losing weight easier on a vegan diet. Eating less calorie-dense foods means you…

So you are complaining about an 87% success rate with near-death patients? Also, why did you totally disregard the point I was making about carbohydrates not being the cause of diabetes? Change the subject much?

If too many carbs cause type 2 diabetes then how did Dr. Walter Kempner's patients not all develop type 2 diabetes while eating a 95% carbohydrate "rice diet" comprised of white rice, fruit juice, and table sugar?

Hi everyone! My wife and I went vegan overnight back in July 2013 and haven't looked back. Lost quite a bit of weight at first, but it has stalled recently as I started eating a lot of vegan junk/convenience foods. Trying to get back on track in 2016 and lose some more weight! Feel free to add me if you'd like; I keep my…

I'm vegan and just recently started logging my meals regularly. You can add me if you'd like!

Hi. Been vegan for about 2 1/2 years and lost some weight during that time following a combination of starch solution and Forks Over Knives recipes. Never really used myfitnesspal for anything other than tracking my own calories, but I will add you :smiley: