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Unless you have over 50 lbs or so to lose,1.5 lbs per week is aggressive. 1 lb per week is usually the most someone should expect to lose if they are in the "overweight" range. And most people who have 15 lbs or less to lose should expect more like half a lb per week, and even that not consistently. What you are trying to…

Sounds like the scientific explanation for what happened to some of the biggest loser contestants is that what you mean? If so I am worried about that & ask the doctors. Getting my BMR done on the machine at theend of the program also & hoping my situation isn’t worse with the number of calories I can consume. I didn’t…

Remember I’m in a unique position to know exactly how many calories I take in & how many lbs I lose so what you think “should” happen doesn’t necessarily happen. Logging my New Directions program + 1,200 BMR still results in only l - 1.5 lbs lost a week so something is hard for my body. Apparently my excercise deficit is…

I don't need to share my medical issues but I'm good guys. Thanks for the internet doctoring.

http://nyulangone.org/locations/weight-management-program/nutrition-meal-replacement-programs Overweight people are accepted you don't have to be obese. The point is I didn't want to get obese that was why I was seeking help now. Why encourage people to put off weight loss when they are ready for change? The thing that is…

ha! I knew this was going to bring up more comments - I think based on a distinction made by a comment above it would be considered a LCD not VLCD. If you total it = around 1,100. Not "bariatric" related that word never came up with doctors. I feel totally fine in my medical hands = major medical institution. When I was…

I have been told my BMR is on the low end but still normal it may cut off as being normal below 1,200. My BMR was measured at a hospital on a machine that figures out your muscle, water etc (very fun). I don't exercise much it just doesn't fit in my life & frankly other than walking it has been hard to sustain an exercise…

You know your BMR is the calories you burn if you are bed ridden doing nothing so if you eat 1200 you will lose weight just existing above a coma state[/quote] Yes - I do know what the BMR is :smile: I clearly live in a coma state. This is the first MFP conversation I have joined - & I have to say I wish it was more…

-Of course you can - but my point is ketosis doesn't make me hungry which being hungry can sabotage a VLCD. Simply going into a VLCD doesn't put you into ketosis they are 2 different things as far as I know - it's the lack of carb numbers that help here.

Just trying to clarify with your definition of VLCD as at below 1000. My diet now is 3 shakes at 200 calories + 1 bar that is about 160 + 1 protein & vegetable meal with the protein not going over 350 calories (I'm usually under that). So the New Directions program if I use your VLCD as 1,000 is not a VLCD since the aim is…

If VLCD is defined as below 1,000 calories New Directions is not VLCD you eat more than 1,000 It is the ketosis combined with low calorie not very low calories that does it

As I said VLCD is different than New Directions. You can have both but as you do with New Directions but one difference with a VLCD that does not promote ketosis is that your body may get hungrier and then a VLCD becomes unsustainable. Somehow the beauty of ketosis is that you are less hungry (at least I am) and can thus…

Note- eateing VLCD is different than New Directions which makes you go into ketosis. You can get to ketosis without New Directions and have the same effect. New Directions is hust one easy method.

Speaking to the hunger issue I don’t find myself hungry and that is explained by the doctors in tgat on a ketosis diet your body uses your fat stores for energy so you aren’t hungry the body regulates this somehow. I’m not a scientist but being hungry isn’t ine thing I have found. The maintenance is another issue but you…

It doesn’t hurt to take a vitamin also but I’d do that anyway with a “food” plan also. Just because a meal comes in liquid form doesn’t mean it isn’t nutrient filled it is just human created with the New Direction meal replacements

You can do the nutritional math all the products are on MFP

I think New Direction food can only be ordered through a doctor / supervised program

Note - the New Directions program (which is medically supervised) is low calorie but has all the nutrients you need so the body isn't lacking in nutrition.

I don't know what VLCD is that very low calorie diet?? My program is medically supervised. I can't consume more than 1000 calories & expect to lose weight my BMR is 1200 so I have to exercise more & eat lower calories.

I am also doing the New Directions & was expecting more of a rapid weight loss. When that didn't happen I had the hospital test my BMR rate & that put things in perspective. You can find out how many calories you are burning & do the math as to how many calories you will need to consume / burn to lose 3,500 calories/lb.…