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Technically if their keeping it on the down low and their friends and family mostly don’t know and aren’t there .. it’s still eloping. ( by definition)
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Not to mention when you get to your goal and you get those extra maintenance calories and have the knowledge through counting to eyeball most things ... it’s kinda like eating without counting I imagine lol
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I also feel like this, I go through spurts of motivation and then I am not feeling it. At those times I just try and focus on maintaining but the last few months it’s been hard. I hope I can get the motivation again soon and you will too I’m sure!
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I'm not really sure why you care so much about what they are saying, if anything they are probably just looking for something to talk to you about more then the actual topic. Also calling people sloppy and obese when you are probably still considered obese by medical standards ( over 20 lbs overweight) is kind of rude.