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Are you undermining? OP has a plan, can you just help with it?

Pre-eat. I make sure to go into any challenging food situation with an ounce of nuts in my belly or some other dense protein/fat food to keep the gremlins happy while I make the best food decisions I can.

Got it, this doesn't apply then, but will post the link just because it is always good to learn. This guy had an issue with ketosis because his body didn't have normal abilities to derive fuel from fat intake. https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/3vfozs/keto_isnt_for_everyonea_cautionary_tale/

Your post made me think of something I just read, but before linking - why is your husband doing keto? Does he have known problems with higher carbohydrate intake?

Good tea, without sugar, is a good goal. I LOVED my sugary tea and coffee. Over the past two years of decreasing sugar (with some side trips into very unsatisfying artificial sweeteners), I now adore plain tea or tea with a bit of lemon. Coffee with heavy cream is OK, but plain tea is now the bomb! Transitioning is hard,…

Is the 52g a DASH thing or MFP? The fruits you ate all are higher sugar fruits, try berries, tomatoes and avocados in your mix for some lower sugar options.

Honestly, all of them. Portion sizes are far beyond sustenance levels.

And you have knowingly and repeatedly have mistated my words and created new statements that I did not make.

This thread is about the sugar part.

Moderation is preached as the one true way. For all. Restriction is rejected. For all. Science is missing. For both. Requesting science seems reasonable.

Sciencey folks usually write very carefully, its probably not OK to put your spin on his words

I do in general provide links, except to those who have requested links in the past, have been provided links and then demonstrated that they did not read the links. I've read a lot in my general area of nutritional interest and that certainly does not mean I have any credibility whatsoever, but it does mean that compiling…

From the chart's author - Refined carbohydrate and sugar are certainly part of the cause of the obesity epidemic, but these data are consistent with a large body of research suggesting that there's more to the story. Obesity is caused by a number of interacting diet and lifestyle factors, most of which can be traced back…

The moderation crew and the no limits on sugar crew also got no links, so quantity of links aren't really a meaningful point. Fat and protein consumption levels are pretty stable over the decades. Carbohydrate and sugar consumption increases pretty much cover our increase in calories over the same time period, which also…

This is a statistics based projection based on the number of undiagnosedpeople uncovered by medical testing of the sample population who participated in the study.

Dr, money, pain? Medical. Pretty much entirely avoidable through diet if you want to restrict carbs to low level.

Excess sugar does play a role in T2, not t1 (you knew t1 is not diet related, right?). Excess sugar displaces calories that contain nutrition your body needs.

I'm not going to reduce several years of reading to links. Google works great if anyone wants to explore the topic. Hint, stay away from individuals blogs except to find links to actuals studies.

This thread is about limits on sugar in MFP which OP was told to ignore with a statement used frequently here - "unless you have a medical condition there is no reason to worry about sugar." Sugar, needs at least as much concern and limiting as other macros, and given the correlation with our huge increase in sugar…

Yep.

I have never found food detail on a ketogenic diet here on MFP. You say you have seen them and determined they are nutrient poor, where are they?

Interesting, and worth thinking about. It turns out cholesterol concerns are a big pile of money funneling woo. Like, all treatment, no actual disease. I'm not sure that the same scam is present with diabetes - there are definitely life threatening consequences to lack of lifestyle changes or medical treatment.

Results In the overall 2011-2012 population, the unadjusted prevalence (using the hemoglobin A1c, FPG, or 2-hour PG definitions for diabetes and prediabetes) was 14.3% (95% CI, 12.2%-16.8%) for total diabetes, 9.1% (95% CI, 7.8%-10.6%) for diagnosed diabetes, 5.2% (95% CI, 4.0%-6.9%) for undiagnosed diabetes, and 38.0%…

Except that your body stops making glucose when there is enough, but the mouth does not stop eating when there is enough. Relying on your body's feedback loop is lower risk. How much sugar do you NEED to eat every day to fuel the body?

I would agree with the unaware part until decades of poor choices manifests in metabolic issues. Metabolic disorders, obesity and related issues don't just happen to extreme eaters, they happen to scores eating moderately. So just maybe our version of 'moderate' eating is unbalanced compared with what our bodies can…

Results In the overall 2011-2012 population, the unadjusted prevalence (using the hemoglobin A1c, FPG, or 2-hour PG definitions for diabetes and prediabetes) was 14.3% (95% CI, 12.2%-16.8%) for total diabetes, 9.1% (95% CI, 7.8%-10.6%) for diagnosed diabetes, 5.2% (95% CI, 4.0%-6.9%) for undiagnosed diabetes, and 38.0%…

nope

An estimated half the US population is projected to have some level of insulin resistance. If you look at overweight and obese populations, the proportion is probably even higher here on MFP. The audience here is more likely than not to have issues with sugar/carbs. That alone validates the need to hear both sides of the…

I think it's clear that OP needs to hear both perspectives and use their own brain to figure out what applies to them.